Pixel 3 XL Unboxing Video (Leak)

[osubeavs728]

Indeed. In fact, a recent survey suggests that when people leave Android it's mainly about the user experience. 47% of people that left Android for iOS for that very reason.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/363269/why-do-people-switch-between-mobile-operating-systems

People are willing to pay more for what they perceive as a better user experience. Everything else is just lower on the list.

Yesss, I love data! Forums need more data.

 

[Mike Dee]

looks to me Google cutting corners here and there

 

[mustang7757]

Lmfaoo...you did that for me?
Mike we definitely got to hang, those shots are calling us

 

[Mike Dee]

Lmfaoo...you did that for me?
Mike we definitely got to hang, those shots are calling us

Snakebites for everyone

 

[dsignori]

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Still the original question remains... Is battery size really an issue, or is the concern more around power management and longevity?

Still the answer is .. They are not mutually exclusive.

A bigger battery helps 100% of users.

 

[Mike Dee]

Still the answer is .. They are not mutually exclusive.

A bigger battery helps 100% of users.

In total capacity yes it does help 100 percent of users. My normal use case battery size doesn't affect me much since I currently get a full day between charges or I top off at work if I think I'm low. That wasn't the case for me prior to the Advent of rapid charging.

 

[osubeavs728]

Still the answer is .. They are not mutually exclusive.

A bigger battery helps 100% of users.

Doesn't help me any. My phone goes on the charger at about 40% every night.

 

[dsignori]

Doesn't help me any. My phone goes on the charger at about 40% every night.

If you do the same thing 365 days a year, you're set.

If, however, you're like everyone else, sometimes you have days where you're out and away from a charger. And I bet you might appreciate a larger battery. But hey, that's just me.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

If you do the same thing 365 days a year, you're set.

If, however, you're like everyone else, sometimes you have days where you're out and away from a charger. And I bet you might appreciate a larger battery. But hey, that's just me.

I really don't understand the argument. 'I personally get through one day fine, so should everyone else, ego a battery increase is not necessary'?

Really don't understand the logic of some posters here. There's no detrimental effect to including a bigger battery and a lot of Android phones this year have big batteries than they did last year. Google is going the other way with the P3XL and putting in a smaller battery for what? There's no benefit whatsoever to putting in a smaller battery in the P3XL.

 

[ClintRo]

Less Weight and cost. That is the only positive I can think of...Still I personally would gladly pay that cost.

 

[Mike Dee]

I really don't understand the argument. 'I personally get through one day fine, so should everyone else, ego a battery increase is not necessary'?

Really don't understand the logic of some posters here. There's no detrimental effect to including a bigger battery and a lot of Android phones this year have big batteries than they did last year. Google is going the other way with the P3XL and putting in a smaller battery for what? There's no benefit whatsoever to putting in a smaller battery in the P3XL.

I don't see an argument....I see people stating their opinions and experiences that happen to differ from yours.
Myself and some others don't have a problem with a bigger battery or a negligibly smaller one. Using the 3XL as an example it's not really that much smaller. I would like a larger battery as long as it doesn't significantly change the size of the device. It's not happening so constantly complaining about it isn't going to change things.

 

[anon(10092459)]

Still the answer is .. They are not mutually exclusive.

A bigger battery helps 100% of users.

But does it? I mean, I saw the thread on the N9 and initial results seem to be mixed by those posters.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...23-so-all-day-battery-life-4.html#post6327180

 

[dsignori]

But does it? I mean, I saw the thread on the N9 and initial results seem to be mixed by those posters.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...23-so-all-day-battery-life-4.html#post6327180

LOL. And how would their results be affected if the battery was smaller? They'd have less battery life. Your hill to die on I guess. LOL

 

[anon(10092459)]

I really don't understand the argument. 'I personally get through one day fine, so should everyone else, ego a battery increase is not necessary'?

Really don't understand the logic of some posters here. There's no detrimental effect to including a bigger battery and a lot of Android phones this year have big batteries than they did last year. Google is going the other way with the P3XL and putting in a smaller battery for what? There's no benefit whatsoever to putting in a smaller battery in the P3XL.

Speaking for myself, I think spec sheet numbers are arbitrary and user experience is what matters. IMO, +/- movement in those numbers generation to generation doesn't really mean much since things differ from OEM to OEM. A 2% difference, in either direction, doesn't conclude the device as a winner or loser.

Regular Pixel 1 had 2770 mah, 2 had 2700 mah and both devices were great no matter either number.

Bottomline, it's something that's important to you and that's cool. We come here to debate and discuss phones and other Android tech. We'll always have different opinions about things.

 

[anon(10092459)]

LOL. And how would their results be affected if the battery was smaller? They'd have less battery life. Your hill to die on I guess. LOL

I mean.. I guess. Since the same users DIDN'T have a 4,000 mah battery before, I'm guessing their lives would've been about the same?? But hey, 100% of users and all that... Why let actual results get in the way ..

 

[dsignori]

I mean.. I guess. Since the same users DIDN'T have a 4,000 mah battery before, I'm guessing their lives would've been about the same?? But hey, 100% of users and all that... Why let actual results get in the way ..

LOL. Whatever battery life they got with a 4000 mah battery would be diminished on that same phone with the same user if that phone had a smaller battery.

There are no results to disprove that. As I said , it seems like this is your hill to die on, so keep defending ...

 

[anon(10092459)]

LOL. Whatever battery life they got with a 4000 mah battery would be diminished on that same phone with the same user if that phone had a smaller battery.

There are no results to disprove that. As I said , it seems like this is your hill to die on, so keep defending ...

Lol!.. yeah we'll agree to , again, to disagree. From what I read in that thread, having a smaller battery was the same if not "better" than having a bigger battery for some users. But hey, the world would be no fun if we all agreed on all things all the time.

 

[dsignori]

From what I read in that thread, having a smaller battery was the same if not "better" than having a bigger battery for some users.

No one in that thread has a Note 9 with a smaller battery, so it’s not the same comparison. Same user, same specific phone.

I’ll leave it at this hypothetical: Say way back in the day when there were removable batteries, say in a Note 4.. Say there were 2 different batteries that would fit it, and one was 3000 and the other was 4000. If THAT user on THAT phone swapped the smaller battery for the bigger battery, they’d get longer battery life with the same usage. Other comparisons here are not valid. Because you introduce other variables.

p.s. I have the Note 9 and my battery life is pretty great so far.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I really don't understand the argument. 'I personally get through one day fine, so should everyone else, ego a battery increase is not necessary'?

Really don't understand the logic of some posters here. There's no detrimental effect to including a bigger battery and a lot of Android phones this year have big batteries than they did last year. Google is going the other way with the P3XL and putting in a smaller battery for what? There's no benefit whatsoever to putting in a smaller battery in the P3XL.

2% decrease in battery with the addition of wireless charging. That's literally the trade off that happened. Is your position that wireless charging is of "no benefit whatsoever" to any consumers?

 

[anon(10092459)]

I’ll leave it at this hypothetical: Say way back in the day when there were removable batteries, say in a Note 4.. Say there were 2 different batteries that would fit it, and one was 3000 and the other was 4000. If THAT user on THAT phone swapped the smaller battery for the bigger battery, they’d get longer battery life with the same usage. Other comparisons here are not valid. Because you introduce other variables.

Great hypothetical, but we're discussing generational and competitives differences and what you've described really isn't part of a real world case at this point in tech. Phones are different and there's a lot of variables involved, as you point out. Taking a set of specs and comparing them to different phones, doesn't mean anything either way. Too many variables involved.