turb0wned
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No but it's out there now so it's better to have it. This is an idiotic logic. What did you do before app stores on phones? What did you do before GPS? Why don't you go back to reading a map.
Pixel ALMOST making me rethink my iPhone
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No but it's out there now so it's better to have it. This is an idiotic logic. What did you do before app stores on phones? What did you do before GPS? Why don't you go back to reading a map.
Wildo6882
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I think what he's getting at is that most of us have NEVER needed water resistance in our phones. Nothing more than what the Pixel has anyway. A little drizzle outside and the common dust in your pocket or in the air. Is it nice to have? Of course it is. But for me, and I'm sure a lot of people, it isn't a deal breaker. My wife has had an S7 edge since April and has never gotten it wet just because. Apple and Samsung also don't cover their phones for water damage. So if you accidentally got just a LITTLE too much water in the phone, it might be done for anyway. Like I said, it's definitely nice, but for most people it isn't the end all. I haven't based one purchase on it. I like the Pixel and I like the 7 Plus. But what I really like about them has NOTHING to do with water resistance.
SteveISU
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Apple would be insane to let iMessage be used on anything other than iPhone. It is the #1 reason I hear people say they get and/or stick with iPhone. "All my family and/or friends have iPhone".
Apparently they've already developed the software.
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...-of-imessage-for-android-with-material-design
SteveISU
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Yeah I saw that earlier in the year. I still think they'd be nuts to release it and give people an out when their hardware has lagged behind Android for the past 3 years.
Relax guy ... No need to be excessive... and YES, if technology didn't provide mapping, I have no issue using a physical map. How can you complain about what you haven't had? Water resistance is a recent development. What are you saying you didn't use a phone until the last couple of years?
I dropped phones in toilets, in a sink full of dishes, and in puddles, and they all died. I like knowing now that if I drop my phone in a puddle, a sink, or a toilet that it wouldn't die. That gives me peace of mind. I'm not following your logic here.
I don't know why you're trying to argue against water resistance. You should be angry that Google didn't add sufficient water resistance in the Pixel. You got shortchanged and you seem okay with it.
BTW, did you all miss the part where I said I work outside ten hours a day and I'm always on my phone with clients and my office? Water resistance is very important to me.
And on that note, years ago when I had a Moto Q9, it took a dive into a toilet. Pulled it out, pulled the battery. Rinsed the phone out with isopropyl and let it dry overnight. Worked perfectly fine in the morning like nothing had ever happened. And that's a phone that was so poorly sealed people complained about dust getting into the display!
I agree, nobody can really argue that phones shouldn't be water resistant. It's a nice thing to have. But for a lot of us, it's not a truly necessary feature, so it's not the deciding factor in whether a phone is good enough or not.
Your use case is a bit different than most, so it definitely weighs more heavily in your decision. Although personally, in the case of rain, by the time it's enough to possibly damage the phone, I'm going to start worrying about keeping myself dry, so keeping the phone dry isn't a big deal at that point.
Sure it would be nice, but don't let that stop you from getting it. If it gets a little wet its not the end of the world, all phones I have used have gotten rained on or been in my pocket on my motorcycle and gotten wet or something, and never hand an issue with one. Be careful not to drop it in a puddle or get a case and just enjoy using it. Either that or stick with an iphone or galaxy S7 or someting for now (even though they don't warranty it against water damage either).
I don't feel shortchanged for not having water resistance, and I wouldn't feel like I could be careless if I had it. Guess I have been conditioned to be careful with electronics, and maybe I don't need to be as much anymore, but I think that's a hard habit to break.
I'm not sure you can make a good argument that anybody should be angry about that feature not being included up to your personal standards on a phone that they bought for their own reasons.
To clarify my comment imagine applying this to any other feature. Then we could make the argument that you should be angry that Samsung did not include more internal storage in their S7 devices. Obviously Samsung things you were either too poor or too stupid to find proper value and having more internal storage and therefore just decided not to give it to you without even asking for your acquiescence. Or another one, you should be angry the LG decided not to include seamless updates in their v20 release because now they are the first device to launch with nougat but they are going to be stuck on either nougat or Oreo forever and never get updated past that because they decide to ignore the base functionality of nougat.
I will guarantee that there are less than 5% of consumers that care about any one of the three features were talking about.
I will guarantee that there are less than 5% of consumers that care about any one of the three features were talking about.
An slightly odd analogy. Technology moves on. What was once new and unique goes on to become the norm, a part of general culture. Society adjusts incrementally until the next new thing comes along and is accepted. And so on.
What did we do before electric windows in cars, for example? Well, we had perfectly serviceable window winders but few people today would be happy to go back to manually winding down car windows, not least because electric windows have become so much part of the basic driving experience. Same with paper maps. Sure, I still have paper maps in my car and can navigate with an analogue compass, but I'd much rather use GPS-enabled phone or computer maps, and my habits along with the entire digital economy have adapted to that new way of navigating. Same with LTE... phones would still function fine with 3G, but is that something we'd really want to have to deal with now the world operates at LTE speeds?
As far as water resistance goes, it was a pretty obvious addition once phones became so much part of our lives and carried everywhere. I've lost track of the number of friends who have lost phones (mainly iPhones) to toilets, puddles and even swimming pools. Ten years ago before the popularity of social media, phones generally lived in bags, to be fished out when they were heard ringing or you needed to call a cab. Water resistance was not something anyone worried about. Now they live in pockets and hands all the time for instant access (including while using the toilet... go figure), so water resistance has become a pretty invaluable feature. Almost as invaluable as Gorilla Glass. I'd argue that water resistance was a feature that met a need... a reflection of how phone use patterns have evolved in the Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat era.
So, yes, I'm disappointed that the Pixel is not IP-68 rated. I will survive (and hopefully the phone, will, too) but I will certainly have to change a few of my habits having previously had an IP-68 rated Sony phone. And if those habits happened to include being outside in inclement weather a lot -- something my Sony would have handled fine -- then, no, I probably would not have bought a Pixel because I would prefer not to have to start scuttling for cover like in the olden days when the skies opened!
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As other have said, the stock keyboard is horrible. However, that can be fixed by downloading Emoji keyboard. It's Apple's keyboard in every sense.
Battery life? Nothing's as good as Apples, but it's ok. Can you go as far on the Pixel XL as the Plus, nope, but I make it through a day with it.
I'm not trying to dismiss the importance of water resistance to you with your daily driver. I'm actually pleased that you found a device that fits your needs. That said though, I don't understand why any other phone should be dismissed for not having a specific feature like that, particularly the Pixel/XL. Much less why I should be upset with Google about it.
I've never lost any technology, much less a phone, to liquid; be it a spill or a drop in a sink or anything else for that matter ever. I live in a part of the US that gets 300 days of sunshine. I'm about as upset about the Pixel/XL not having water resistance as I am that my car doesn't have the latest windshield wipers.
I suppose I just don't see why a Pixel would even be on your radar if water resistance is so important to you? It seems like you're toying with us. I'd never purchase a phone that didn't provide one of my most important features. Can you explain why you'd buy a phone like that knowing full well what it could and could not do before you purchased it. Your argument falls on deaf ears in here because many of us have decided that we've made it this long without water resistance and have found it to be unnecessary for us. Just as we can not make you change your pro water resistance views, you can't make us change ours. However, it's more interesting why someone would buy a phone, knowing they need a feature the phone doesn't have and then turn to the forums to complain about said non existent features, hence, you returned the phone.
None of the issues you cited with the Pixel were unknowns nor were they unexpected malfunctioning issues, aside from the lens flare on some devices. Why not just live and let live?
None of the issues you cited with the Pixel were unknowns nor were they unexpected malfunctioning issues, aside from the lens flare on some devices. Why not just live and let live?
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