Pixel ALMOST making me rethink my iPhone

[anon(5630457)]

Yet, you still didn't answer the question that I've asked you several times. If you knew water resistance, front facing speakers, and photos without lens flare were essential, then why buy the Pixel? Two of those features were no secret upon purchase and you knew they were very important to you. Can you just answer why you'd buy the Pixel?

Most of us would never invest that much cash in something we knew was missing important features.

BTW, there's not a single review that I've read that did not express lack of water proofing and front facing speakers, and large bezels as cons for the Pixel. So, there's nothing misleading if you have decided those factors aren't important. Aside from those cons, the Pixel is an absolute pleasure to use. And, I've found pros with relation to the bezel and the single bottom firing speaker. Water proofing simply isn't a major smartphone feature for many of us. It's rarely a reason to reject a phone because it has no water resistance.

Ok.

But this was a thread about ditching the iPhone for the Pixel. I wanted the Pixel to work, but it's major hardware flaws wouldn't allow me to enjoy it, I don't care how smooth the software is on the phone.

BTW, you say "water proofing simply isn't a major smartphone feature for many of us. It's rarely a reason to reject a phone because it has no water resistance." That's YOUR opinion. Many people look for water resistance on a phone for their purchasing decision, especially those who have kids or those who work outside. I love the peace of mind knowing that if my iPhone 7 Plus falls in a puddle, or falls in a sink full of dishes, or if it starts downpouring outside while I'm making a phone call, that my phone won't die.

 

[Aquila]

Ok.

But this was a thread about ditching the iPhone for the Pixel. I wanted the Pixel to work, but it's major hardware flaws wouldn't allow me to enjoy it, I don't care how smooth the software is on the phone.

BTW, you say "water proofing simply isn't a major smartphone feature for many of us. It's rarely a reason to reject a phone because it has no water resistance." That's YOUR opinion. Many people look for water resistance on a phone for their purchasing decision, especially those who have kids or those who work outside. I love the peace of mind knowing that if my iPhone 7 Plus falls in a puddle, or falls in a sink full of dishes, or if it starts downpouring outside while I'm making a phone call, that my phone won't die.

I agree with you to a point - and that point is the point where Apple won't cover the water damage with warranty if their rating isn't up to snuff.

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

Ok.

But this was a thread about ditching the iPhone for the Pixel. I wanted the Pixel to work, but it's major hardware flaws wouldn't allow me to enjoy it, I don't care how smooth the software is on the phone.

BTW, you say "water proofing simply isn't a major smartphone feature for many of us. It's rarely a reason to reject a phone because it has no water resistance." That's YOUR opinion. Many people look for water resistance on a phone for their purchasing decision, especially those who have kids or those who work outside. I love the peace of mind knowing that if my iPhone 7 Plus falls in a puddle, or falls in a sink full of dishes, or if it starts downpouring outside while I'm making a phone call, that my phone won't die.

Again, you refuse to answer my question. You stated in your first post that you purchased and returned the Pixel. The phone has major hardware flaws that you knew of before you purchased. Can you please answer my question. Why did you invest in the Pixel with known hardware flaws?

Simply saying ”I wanted the Pixel to work” could be anyone's reason who watched some videos and saw some reviews, but it wouldn't necessarily mean they actually purchased the phone.

I think it's very telling that you refuse to answer the question. And, if you never actually purchased a Pixel, then you can't really say you ditched one phone for the other, right?

I'm having a difficult time with your deductive reasoning, because why would you actually purchase a phone that you knew had ”major hardware flaws” that you considered a necessity.

Can you just explain why you actually bought the Pixel? It's a simple question.

 

[drufranco]

BTW, you say "water proofing simply isn't a major smartphone feature for many of us. It's rarely a reason to reject a phone because it has no water resistance." That's YOUR opinion. Many people look for water resistance on a phone for their purchasing decision, especially those who have kids or those who work outside. I love the peace of mind knowing that if my iPhone 7 Plus falls in a puddle, or falls in a sink full of dishes, or if it starts downpouring outside while I'm making a phone call, that my phone won't die.

Pixel is following the same way as the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, no official certificate for water resistance but like the 6 it does offer decent protection without the official rating.
Article regarding the 6 at the time.
"Unlike arch-rivals Samsung and Sony, Apple has never tried to get industry-standard IP55, IP58 or IP67 dust and water resistance certificates for its iPhone smartphones."
I have had to use in a sudden downpour and had no issues with it and it worked fine getting quite wet until I could duck into a store.
I wiped it off and continued my conversation. It didn't die because it wasn't "water resistant certified". The only protection I had was a glass screen protector and Googles live case (so basically no protection from water)

Now Apple has taken the step to get the certification with the iPhone 7 which has been only for the last 3 months.

 

[anon(9227267)]

Some people are Pixel People and some people are not Pixel People. Let us all learn to live in peaceful harmony in the land of "AC Forums".

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

Some people are Pixel People and some people are not Pixel People. Let us all learn to live in peaceful harmony in the land of "AC Forums".

I think we are trying to be peaceful, but is it peaceful when certain participants come in the forum to make statements that are obviously designed to invoke question? The problem is we're questioning certain people's intent rather than the content of what they're saying. If someone is purposefully intending to falsify their use of a product in order to canvass support for an opposing product, should we just stand idly by and let their assertions go unchallenged?

 

[anon(5630457)]

If someone is purposefully intending to falsify their use of a product

No falsification here. I had the Pixel for a couple of days and promptly returned it, like many others. Go to Verizon's website and look at the reviews of both the Pixel and Pixel XL. There are plenty of other people who returned the phone because of the lack of features.

 

[anon(10092459)]

I think we are trying to be peaceful, but is it peaceful when certain participants come in the forum to make statements that are obviously designed to invoke question? The problem is we're questioning certain people's intent rather than the content of what they're saying. If someone is purposefully intending to falsify their use of a product in order to canvass support for an opposing product, should we just stand idly by and let their assertions go unchallenged?

Does seem quite funny that same certain participants seem to show up in every thread pertaining to the same product they claim to oppose with the same rhetoric... Causes one to wonder what's the point of it all.

 

[Wildo6882]

Does seem quite funny that same certain participants seem to show up in every thread pertaining to the same product they claim to oppose with the same rhetoric... Causes one to wonder what's the point of it all.

Pretty sure the Pixel must have slept with someone's wife, or must be dating someone's daughter.

I have no other explanation for such disdain for a phone. We're talking about a friggin cell phone here!!

 

[Applejunkie66]

No falsification here. I had the Pixel for a couple of days and promptly returned it, like many others. Go to Verizon's website and look at the reviews of both the Pixel and Pixel XL. There are plenty of other people who returned the phone because of the lack of features.

Not buying your lack of features reason for people returning the Pixel. And WHY did you buy a Pixel if you knew of its "lack of features"?

 

[manni1to]

Had a regular pixel that I switched to from the iPhone 7 plus for about a week.

I took the pixel back and am currently back on the 7 plus. The screen size and the battery life on the pixel just weren't there for me.

I would consider getting an XL though.

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

No falsification here. I had the Pixel for a couple of days and promptly returned it, like many others. Go to Verizon's website and look at the reviews of both the Pixel and Pixel XL. There are plenty of other people who returned the phone because of the lack of features.

LOL, most of what you say lacks merit simply because you have danced all around repeated queries as to why you chose to buy trythe pixel, given your list of mandatory features that you knew the pixel didn't have. You're obviously reading our commentary, but picking and choosing what to respond to and what not. It's laughable really!

 

[sydneycooper1979]

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[shadoweave]

I can. I disagree on them being better. One instantly comes to mind because it pains me to this day since the GF uses it on her iPhone.. Google Photos. It cannot initiate backup or do backups unless the app is in the foreground. Therefore you have to remember to open it and let it upload or your photos won't back up. On Android I set it to WiFi / while charging only... And simply never think of it again. .

Turn off background app refresh and it will work

 

[shadoweave]

I dropped phones in toilets, in a sink full of dishes, and in puddles, and they all died .
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Whaaaaat. You don't need a waterproof phone you need Velcro gloves and a Velcro cell phone case.

 

[shadoweave]

One thing that no one is considering is your investment into an ecosystem.

How much money have you spent on the play store? What other android devices do you have that work only with android?

Orwhat devices that you have from Apple that won't work with iOS , AppleTV, the Time Machine backup Wi-Fi router thing, Etc

Another consideration is the money that you spent on apps. I haven't spent an exorbitant amount but it's considerable. I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded $100.

Google writes very good software. This is the first foray into designing their own phone and I do think they did a good job. They do have some key features missing such as the water resistance. But overall they did well.

Apple also writes excellent software and tunes it to their hardware. They're capable of doing twice as much with half of the hardware ratings.

Someone had mentioned it before but this is a game of what do you prefer the most. There will be concessions on both sides depending on which phone you choose.

 

[Almeuit]

Turn off background app refresh and it will work

What will? It works fine on my android without issue. I was talking about iPhone.

 

[shadoweave]

What will? It works fine on my android without issue. I was talking about iPhone.

I was talking about the iPhone as well

 

[Almeuit]

I was talking about the iPhone as well

There are no restrictions set for background data usage. Her iPhone is set to do whatever - whenever. The issue is iOS doesn't allow apps to just open up in the background and run things like photo backups. Even when I was on the iPhone I never could get it to start until the app was in the foreground -- and stayed in the foreground.

 

[aggie]

There are no restrictions set for background data usage. Her iPhone is set to do whatever - whenever. The issue is iOS doesn't allow apps to just open up in the background and run things like photo backups. Even when I was on the iPhone I never could get it to start until the app was in the foreground -- and stayed in the foreground.

Same here. I switch back and forth between Android and iPhone quite often and I backup from both devices to Google Photos. I didn't realize until I saw you post about it on another thread that the iOS Google Photos app will not upload unless the app is open. I had ~3,200 items that had not backed up! iOS apps are definitely more polished in general but they are not always more functional.