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[smooth4lyfe]

Samsung hasn't innovated in years. The new galaxy is a mash up of iPhone and htc one. Aluminum body with glass panels. They ditched the removable memory, battery and waterproofing. I think it's innovative marketing that you take features away and call it progress and people still buy it.

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A dual edge screen phone is not innovative? It is according to the definition of innovative
You are only looking at the negative things Samsung did with the phone, and I agree those are negative points, but look at everything

Inoovation
"noun
1.
something new or different introduced:

 

[smooth4lyfe]

Sammy just throws junk at people like that whole eye movement thing made no sense more bloat for no reason.

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Well if it's working for Samsung, why doesn't HTC do it as well?

 

[Habiib]

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- Why not put Optical Image Stabilization in their back camera? (or if it does have it, its not really good) -

EIS EIS EIS EIS <> OIS OIS OIS

Why not change the design of their phone?

They did ...it's not the exact same design

Why not put a QHD screen when other flagships are doing it

QHD would provide 0 notable improvements on an LCD display of that size. Doing something just because is not the most logical thing to do. Before anyone makes a dumb comment about being competitive via specs and how it could improve sales, please direct your attention to the display technology of the number 1 selling device and how it's paltry resolution has made it competitively inferior.

My mistake..they're rumoured to be doing QHD on a new phone

Why not try and fix their camera for low light?

They did. UltraPixel FF camera

Why not at least do something different, think outside the box

Yeah they should have done something really smart like take away SD Cards (which a certain sect of people swore by but changed their stance all of a sudden) and decrease the battery capacity. Or reduce the IP rating from the previous iteration. Those would be very creative changes.

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[TimmE]

The note edge was innovative. The Galaxy edge is evolutionary at best. Some would call it a step backwards because it lost some functionality compared to the note.

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[smooth4lyfe]

EIS EIS EIS EIS <> OIS OIS OIS

They did. UltraPixel FF camera

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You might want to rephrase that after watching this

 

[Habiib]

The only thing HTC has going for them with the M9 is the Sense UI and Dolby Speakers (which are probably useless without headphones). Their camera was decent in the M8, but seems to have fallen short in the M9. And yes, I am still stuck on the lack of a QHD screen, and even with their 1080p screen, the battery life is still not great according to some reviews

HTC was the design champs last year, but I think Samsung has surpassed them this year with the S6

I think Samsung made a mistake on removing the MicroSD and removable battery, but they seemed to have made up for those with other things

I find it odd that you will accept reports of the M9 having poor battery life but will hold the stance of "wait for more reviews" when the gsmarena review of the S6 came out and showed that its battery life had worsened.

Sorry but I don't see in the case of the S6 (non-edge) how they surpassed HTC. The design isn't too far off from the S5. Not to mention covering the back with glass that is prone to shatter (not to be confused with Gorilla glass scratch resistance). The edge variant has the 3-sided display that's the best looking design ever created or Will ever be created.

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[smooth4lyfe]

I find it odd that you will accept reports of the M9 having poor battery life but will hold the stance of "wait for more reviews" when the gsmarena review of the S6 came out and showed that its battery life had worsened.

Sorry but I don't see in the case of the S6 (non-edge) how they surpassed HTC. The design isn't too far off from the S5. Not to mention covering the back with glass that is prone to shatter (not to be confused with Gorilla glass scratch resistance). The edge variant has the 3-sided display that's the best looking design ever created or Will ever be created.

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I'm not accepting it, I'm just pointing it out. I was just as disappointed with the S6 (and still am). I could certainly be proven wrong about M9 battery

As for design, they moved from plastic to glass/aluminum, and almost every "hands-on" review on the S6 say that the design looks pretty good, even with their dual-tone glass. I'm judging my statement on that. Then again, one's appreciation for design will always be subjective anyways. Some people will like some people will hate, but looking at the majority of hands-on reviews, it seems people like it

 

[Habiib]

You might want to rephrase that after watching this

[video]https://youtu.be/UrMso9wbSr4[/url]

Did you completely misunderstand what I wrote? They opted for EIS instead of OIS, hence the EIS <> OIS reference. They improved the FF camera low light abilities by opting for the UltraPixel sensor. What part of my reply needs to be rephrased based on the video link you provided? I saw none, so I'm wondering why you have it.

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[smooth4lyfe]

Did you completely misunderstand what I wrote? They opted for EIS instead of OIS, hence the EIS <> OIS reference. They improved the FF camera low light abilities by opting for the UltraPixel sensor. What part of my reply needs to be rephrased based on the video link you provided? I saw none, so I'm wondering why you have it.

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You said the Ultrapixel FF improved low light...the video shows otherwise
Video also shows their EIS is not as good as OIS

 

[Habiib]

You said the Ultrapixel FF improved low light...the video shows otherwise
Video also shows their EIS is not as good as OIS

They improved the FF camera in the M9 (i.e., upgraded the implementation from the M8). Again my assertion still stands or are you not being serious? No one said that EIS was as good as OIS , unless you don't know what <> means.

Either way you are wrong about what you said I need to rephrase. There was no mention by me of EIS being superior or that the FF camera on the M9 was not improved to take better lowlight pictures.

M9 FF vs M8 FF and other...see the improvement over the M8????

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Self...M8-vs-iPhone-6-vs-Note-4-vs-Galaxy-S5_id66784

Other random test for the M9 UltraPixel Front Facing camera....

http://www.cnet.com/news/a-day-with-htc-one-m9s-new-cameras/

http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/htc-one-m9-vs-iphone-6-ultrapixel-selfie/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...traPixel-producing-ultra-good-selfies_id66759

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[bigrey81]

Did you completely misunderstand what I wrote? They opted for EIS instead of OIS, hence the EIS OIS reference. They improved the FF camera low light abilities by opting for the UltraPixel sensor. What part of my reply needs to be rephrased based on the video link you provided? I saw none, so I'm wondering why you have it.

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I think this is a better video and tabtec is a Sammy fanboy in my opinion but whatever

https://youtu.be/wMS1CjTNN0s

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[bigrey81]

You said the Ultrapixel FF improved low light...the video shows otherwise
Video also shows their EIS is not as good as OIS

https://youtu.be/wMS1CjTNN0s

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[smooth4lyfe]

They improved the FF camera in the M9 (i.e., upgraded the implementation from the M8). Again my assertion still stands or are you not being serious? No one said that EIS was as good as OIS , unless you don't know what <> means.

Either way you are wrong about what you said I need to rephrase. There was no mention by me of EIS being superior or that the FF camera on the M9 was not improved to take better lowlight pictures.

M9 FF vs M8 FF and other...see the improvement over the M8????

Selfie camera comparison: HTC One M9 vs One M8 vs iPhone 6 vs Note 4 vs Galaxy S5

Other random test for the M9 UltraPixel Front Facing camera....

We spent a day using the HTC One M9 as a camera (hands-on) - CNET

http://phandroid.com/2015/03/09/htc-one-m9-vs-iphone-6-ultrapixel-selfie/

HTC One M9 Selfie camera tested: is UltraPixel producing ultra-good selfies?

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Maybe we are comparing two different things.
And yes, I will acknowledge the M9 camera is better than the M8
What I was trying to say is that HTC should have implemented OIS instead of EIS, because OIS gives better results
I have no doubt the M9 Camera will be a good camera, but come one, you should atleast agree that they should have included OIS instead of EIS, especially since they were boosting their camera so much

And yes they improved low light capabilities, but looking at sample pics, it doesn't do justice when compared to the iPhone or the S6

As for your "<>" comment, M9 EIS is << S6 OIS when looking at the sample videos

 

[smooth4lyfe]

https://youtu.be/wMS1CjTNN0s

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Good video to show the comparison, but I can assure you OIS will give better stabilization than EIS, both may have advantages and disadvantages, but OIS is better in low light as well

Optical Image Stabilization VS Electronic Image Stabilization » Gadgets To Use

 

[bigrey81]

Maybe we are comparing two different things.
And yes, I will acknowledge the M9 camera is better than the M8
What I was trying to say is that HTC should have implemented OIS instead of EIS, because OIS gives better results
I have no doubt the M9 Camera will be a good camera, but come one, you should atleast agree that they should have included OIS instead of EIS, especially since they were boosting their camera so much

And yes they improved low light capabilities, but looking at sample pics, it doesn't do justice when compared to the iPhone or the S6

As for your "<>" comment, M9 EIS is << S6 OIS when looking at the sample videos

Maybe sometime ago but with the right software eis is on par if not better so we shall see what happens

http://www.videomaker.com/article/7310-image-stabilization-eisois

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[aallison1882]

Maybe we are comparing two different things.
And yes, I will acknowledge the M9 camera is better than the M8
What I was trying to say is that HTC should have implemented OIS instead of EIS, because OIS gives better results
I have no doubt the M9 Camera will be a good camera, but come one, you should atleast agree that they should have included OIS instead of EIS, especially since they were boosting their camera so much

And yes they improved low light capabilities, but looking at sample pics, it doesn't do justice when compared to the iPhone or the S6

As for your "<>" comment, M9 EIS is << S6 OIS when looking at the sample videos

HTC really should have went with OIS. EIS is better than none though.

That being said I seem to remember the reason that HTC opted for EIS was due to a hardware space issue (I do not have a resource link, nor do I have the energy right now to look for it). My personal opinion is that if you are not going to make the camera flush with the phone and leave it protruding from the back, then you might as well make the hump slightly bigger and put OIS in.

 

[bigrey81]

Good video to show the comparison, but I can assure you OIS will give better stabilization than EIS, both may have advantages and disadvantages, but OIS is better in low light as well

Optical Image Stabilization VS Electronic Image Stabilization » Gadgets To Use

Probably but for all the camera folks out there I hope it turns out fantastic.

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[bigrey81]

Who cares if HTC wins an award for the best looking phone? What Korean company gives two nickels about an award? It's about profits and sales in the business world. How did that award equate to sales for the M7/M8 because people vote with their wallet?

Samsung makes more than just phones. They are #1 in tv sales and probably doing well in regard to washers and refrigerators too. If their mobile division takes a hit one year then bounces back do you think they blame HTC? No, they come out with a brand new phone that people say resembles the iPhone. Not the M7 or M8.

Man, Kia is starting to make great looking cars that may rival Audi and BMW. They may even have won an award. But people aren't dropping their cars to run out and buy a Kia based on looks alone. Apple has brand loyalty is my point. HTC is known for what? Two beautiful phones that has equated to loss of profits one year followed by a profit increase the next year.

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Really wow okay if you say

http://m.wardsauto.com/kia-motors-brand-value-skyrockets-480-percent-2007 Recognition and awards produce in volumes maybe slow but makes people look at you and wonder hmm

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[bigrey81]

Yeah...okay. I knew this already. Let me ask you this question. Can 100 people stop millions of people from buying an HTC product? As I continue to read these threads the M9 could be as good as toilet paper and people would still buy it. A few people cannot have a huge impact on sales period. Did Antenna Gate or Bend Gate negatively impact Apple? No it did not. If people didn't really want an M8 or M9 they probably weren't going to buy one anyway. You guys are not being logical.

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A virus starts from one and HTC is trying to rebuild don't need the negative publicity.

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[bigrey81]

I'm sorry. People ask me for advice all the time because I deal with young people in the Air Force everyday. I've never heard any supervisor, leader, or myself tell a subordinate to purchase something because it has won an award. We base our analysis and advice off of experience and others who are happy with that particular product. Sometimes they cant afford the best product.

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That's is quite different..now your talking about expert power and legitimate power as such. Also people do that all the time like that Kia thing you mentioned 10 year warranty they got better won awards sales boost come on are you kidding?

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