S9 double-tap to wake not available in stock settings?

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I have "Tap to Show" turned on. All that does is show me the Always On display. I'm not seeing anything about waking the device in this module.

I have these settings set at present:

Always on Display
Tap to Show = On
Home button and clock
Tap to show - show for 10 seconds

No "wake" at all in there as far as I can see.
Unfortunately I think in Samsung devices that's the closest thing to the feature you are looking for.
 

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Unfortunately I think in Samsung devices that's the closest thing to the feature you are looking for.

Well, I think you're both right.

I'm aware of those other options.

I don't mind having to enter my password every time since I can use a swipe pattern, which is pretty easy to do when the phone is flat on the desk in front of me.

I'm cautious about having GPS location keep the phone unlocked because I have been living in an extended-stay Marriott franchise for two years and leaving the device on a bench or dropping it etc wouldn't be all that safe.

And using a Bluetooth device like my headset or watch doesn't feel all that safe since I often use a waist pack and might have one or both in there while the phone is on the holster attached or is inside, such as at the gym -- or they might all be in my gym bag. Etc.

Oh, well. I may have to go to a Note 10 sooner rather than later to get that fingerprint sensor. Although my whole world is turning upside down now because I just finally moved away from BlackBerrys with physical keyboards after all these years, and now I see my only choice for a case and belt-clip holster, Seidio Dilex with "locking" holster, isn't even available for the S10 or Note10, and I must have that case-and-holster for my phone, so I actually just had a moment of "tilt" in my head there for a minute looking at the Seidio site looking at the -- dare I say it -- iPhone options (man, that doesn't site right in my stomach at all :eek:).

Oh well. (Sigh.)
 

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So, a third-party launcher like Nova won't provide it either?
Not to my knowledge. That's a kernel function.
When I say WAKE I mean all the way to the home screen, not just showing the lock screen notifications, from off or AOD.

Double tap to sleep is available in Nova Launcher, but some call it a gimmick and not a true tap to sleep.
 
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Thank you to all who have been helping me with this.

Man, what a challenge! Am I the only one who works all day with the device sitting on my desk in front of me and wants to tap and swipe to use it, without having to lift it up off the desk or maneuver to hit the Power button to wake it -- which is required literally many dozens of times a day?

I had decided to resign myself to using a Bluetooth connection to keep the phone unlocked, which is certainly not as secure as I'd like but I have to consider usability at well. At least that would enhance productivity compared to first waking the phone and then unlocking the phone with taps and gestures dozens of times a day. I hoped with perpetual Bluetooth "unlock," a single-tap on a black screen would get me "in."

In fact, one thing I found that makes it less of a concern to be keeping the phone unlocked when on a Bluetooth connection is the Lockdown option, though it does require remembering to manually activate it when, say, leaving the phone (and Bluetooth device) in the locker at the gym or taking off the waist pack for a swim.

There's just one problem, though! While using a Bluetooth connection can keep the phone "unlocked," it seems it will not keep the phone "awake!" And for that, one still needs to hit the power button on the side of the phone!

The only choice left is keeping the screen on all day with the device sitting on a charger all day, and burning out the battery life really quick at about $130 a shot to replace the battery -- and probably ending up with screen burn-in, requiring a new screen periodically at about $230?

Either someone at Samsung or Google really missed the mark with this, or Samsung is trying to push people to buy an S10 or Note10 for the on-display fingerprint sensor.

Maybe this will come to the attention of a development team and be "fixed" in an update, though that seems highly unlikely at this stage.

Maybe it will be there if and when Android 10 is released for the S9?
 

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I emailed tech support for the makers of Nova Launcher, TeslaCoil Apps, and asked if there's any way to make this work or if I'm simply out of luck because of the OS and device not providing it as stock. Here's what they wrote back (quite quickly I might add):

"Correct. When the device screen is off, no app, including Nova, has any access to your device in any way. Anything that happens at that time is totally up to your device."
 

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There is an option for HARD PRESS HOME BUTTON to wake the phone. As long as it's not locked, it will go to the home screen.
I keep my phone unlocked with SMART LOCK and Gear watch and use this option.
 
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There is an option for HARD PRESS HOME BUTTON to wake the phone. As long as it's not locked, it will go to the home screen.
I keep my phone unlocked with SMART LOCK and Gear watch and use this option.

Eureka! This works! Thank you for this!

Now, to figure out how to use taps or gestures to get back into an active screen when on a phone call. At present, with stock/defaults, when on a call nothing seems to bring me past a black screen -- until I, uh, contort my hand and tap the power button on the side of the phone, which is usually sitting flat on my desk. Is there a way to change this, preferably without having to go to Nova Launcher?
 

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Thank you to all who have been helping me with this.

Man, what a challenge! Am I the only one who works all day with the device sitting on my desk in front of me and wants to tap and swipe to use it, without having to lift it up off the desk or maneuver to hit the Power button to wake it -- which is required literally many dozens of times a day?

I had decided to resign myself to using a Bluetooth connection to keep the phone unlocked, which is certainly not as secure as I'd like but I have to consider usability at well. At least that would enhance productivity compared to first waking the phone and then unlocking the phone with taps and gestures dozens of times a day. I hoped with perpetual Bluetooth "unlock," a single-tap on a black screen would get me "in."

In fact, one thing I found that makes it less of a concern to be keeping the phone unlocked when on a Bluetooth connection is the Lockdown option, though it does require remembering to manually activate it when, say, leaving the phone (and Bluetooth device) in the locker at the gym or taking off the waist pack for a swim.

There's just one problem, though! While using a Bluetooth connection can keep the phone "unlocked," it seems it will not keep the phone "awake!" And for that, one still needs to hit the power button on the side of the phone!

The only choice left is keeping the screen on all day with the device sitting on a charger all day, and burning out the battery life really quick at about $130 a shot to replace the battery -- and probably ending up with screen burn-in, requiring a new screen periodically at about $230?

Either someone at Samsung or Google really missed the mark with this, or Samsung is trying to push people to buy an S10 or Note10 for the on-display fingerprint sensor.

Maybe this will come to the attention of a development team and be "fixed" in an update, though that seems highly unlikely at this stage.

Maybe it will be there if and when Android 10 is released for the S9?

if you're going to use bluetooth to keep the phone unlocked with a trusted device (i do this with my samsung watch) and are using the aod, then you can double tap on the notification icon and swipe to unlock the phone. you can also do like i do, just push and hold the home icon thats also present with aod and the screen will just come on. you can also do that if you want to without a trusted device to keep it unlocked and you will have to enter a password or whatever security you have enabled. settings-display-navigation bar-unlock with home button
 

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if you're going to use bluetooth to keep the phone unlocked with a trusted device (i do this with my samsung watch) and are using the aod, then you can double tap on the notification icon and swipe to unlock the phone. you can also do like i do, just push and hold the home icon thats also present with aod and the screen will just come on. you can also do that if you want to without a trusted device to keep it unlocked and you will have to enter a password or whatever security you have enabled. settings-display-navigation bar-unlock with home button
You can also turn on wave to wake. Then, waving over the top speaker / front camera area will take the phone from the AOD to the lock screen.

I really do not understand double tap on the notification not taking you to that app, without having to swipe up, to open the home page. That's not much different than opening the home screen through whatever method and then pulling down the notification shade and tapping the notification.
 

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Turns out hard/long press of the home icon (or rather of the location where it would be) works even before the AOD is invoked with a tap -- in fact, there's no need to bring up the AOD at all.

And hard/long press of that location brings the phone display back up when it's gone black when on a call. (I found nothing else that does except hitting the power button.)
 

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Turns out hard/long press of the home icon (or rather of the location where it would be) works even before the AOD is invoked with a tap -- in fact, there's no need to bring up the AOD at all.

And hard/long press of that location brings the phone display back up when it's gone black when on a call. (I found nothing else that does except hitting the power button.)
I reckon that's so. I've not used the AOD on tap.
My AOD is on when I'm not asleep. That was my point of reference.
Apologies, for not being more clear.
 

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