Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Has anybody though about making "The switch"?

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The reason im heading in that direction is because although they may not offer much, what they do offer, is perfected. It just works...

That's an artificially supported marketing construct based on a reputation earned 4 years ago when Android was still figuring things out and the mobile world was still really limited... Now? Apple has done a marvelous job of convincing the public that their **** don't stink. They are just another OEM at this point, and one with a closed off platform.
 
Re: Has anybody though about making "The switch"?

New user here, this is my first post. I have a Nexus 6 on the way, switching from a Lumia 820 WP.

I just wanted to say that my brother-in-law switched from Android to Apple (Nexus 5 to iPhone 6 to be specific). It only lasted 3 days - he took advantage of his "cooling off period", took the iPhone back and went back to his Nexus. It's not the kind of thing he would do lightly. He said there was no comparison, everything about his year-old nexus was better than the brand new iPhone, from hardware aspects of battery life, signal strength and screen quality, to the software aspects of user experience and app availability.

And here's my story: As an avid Apple fan, a Mac user since the 90s, an owner of too many Macs to name of the top of my head, and countless iPods, I've always wanted an iPhone but could never afford one. But recently, (since we lost Steve Jobs maybe), I feel Apple have stopped innovating. Every iPhone of the last few years seems like an incremental upgrade on the last, ubiquitous, yet overhyped and overpriced.

So I decided to go another way. As a professional interface designer, I liked what MS were trying to do with the whole "Metro" look. I found the minimalist, colourful panels very pleasing, so simple, so modern, so user friendly, and yet so innovative and different to anything else out there. As an obsessed Xbox fan, I am somewhat addicted to achievements, so Xbox games on a mobile phone seemed a wonderful thing. And I've always been a fan of Nokia. So I decided to go with a Windows Phone, a lumia 820.

I still love it, but it has it's problems. The software is glitchy. Call blocking stopped working ages ago. Some apps won't launch at all. The interface is starting to frustrate and bore me. Xbox games are few and far between. And just about every app I see advertised is for "iOS and Android". No mention of WP. What's more, every other phone I see seems to massively outmuscle my little lumia. So, due for an upgrade, impressed by my bro-in-laws Nexus 5, and in want of a large screen, I sprung for the Nexus 6, and I can't wait.

I'm not surprised that Android dominates the market. Apple have been complacent. MS have tried to muscle in and, despite some promise, have stumbled. Google have soared. The variety of handsets is staggering, there is a wealth of apps and games, customization is great. I'm super excited about my decision to go Android and I know I won't regret it.
 
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A lot of times year-to-year updates are only incremental. Apple is not the only OEM challenged by that, so is its biggest rival Samsung. As aforementioned, I switched from a Note 3 to a Note 4 and while there are tangible improvements they're just evolutionary. Better screen, slightly faster, better camera, etc. I think to really feel an upgrade you have to

a) have skipped at least a year in your upgrade cycle
b) be coming from a lackluster device with notable shortcomings

Otherwise you're just seeing small improvements like I typically do (I find a way to upgrade every 6-12 months often disposing of $$ in the process). I will admit though that a lot of small improvements can indeed add up.

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Re: Has anybody though about making "The switch"?

A lot of times year-to-year updates are only incremental. Apple is not the only OEM challenged by that, so is its biggest rival Samsung. As aforementioned, I switched from a Note 3 to a Note 4 and while there are tangible improvements they're just evolutionary. Better screen, slightly faster, better camera, etc. I think to really feel an upgrade you have to

a) have skipped at least a year in your upgrade cycle
b) be coming from a lackluster device with notable shortcomings

Otherwise you're just seeing small improvements like I typically do (I find a way to upgrade every 6-12 months often disposing of $$ in the process). I will admit though that a lot of small improvements can indeed add up.

from the G Pad 7
I agree. I just feel like new iPhones are so overhyped, their release is covered by news networks, people camp out for days to get one, it's crazy. And all it is the same old iPhone, slightly better, and in some ways, slightly worse (signal strength problems, 6 Plus bending etc). It seems like Apple have a lot of people under some kind of spell. I'll always be a Mac user, but iPhones? Unless they hit another vein of innovation and do something to truly justify the high price of the hardware, I'm going to keep a clear head and use Android.
 
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I agree. I just feel like new iPhones are so overhyped, their release is covered by news networks, people camp out for days to get one, it's crazy. And all it is the same old iPhone, slightly better, and in some ways, slightly worse (signal strength problems, 6 Plus bending etc). It seems like Apple have a lot of people under some kind of spell. I'll always be a Mac user, but iPhones? Unless they hit another vein of innovation and do something to truly justify the high price of the hardware, I'm going to keep a clear head and use Android.

Oh you're right. The iPhones are vastly overhyped, good as they might be they are often notably behind the competition. ...but everyone knows their name so they sell well. Its the way of things.

from the G Pad 7
 
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It seems like Apple have a lot of people under some kind of spell

Reality Distortion Field\

I think your observation about Apple is spot on. They lost their soul when Jobs died. He WAS Apple... their resurgence was his doing, his vision. It is well known how much he micromanaged nearly every aspect of the iPhone... even minor changes to the fonts used for icons. Now? Well... even though they are spending more on R&D than they ever have, their major innovation was adding enough screen (a solution that Jobs famously abhorred) to allow for another row of icons on the homescreen. They are a powerboat with a fixed rudder... as if no one dares to alter anything too much.
 
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In all fairness a lot of the Note 3/4 would be lost on a lot of people that really just want simplicity in their smartphone experience. ...and there are a LOT of people like that. The iPhone, if nothing else, is simple with a reliably good camera and a lot of compatibility with everything from bountiful accessories to cars to home theater receivers. Android just doesn't generally have that, as good as the actual devices can be (and let's face it, a lot of android phones do stink).

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if I were you I would try a few things first on your note 4 before jumping to Apple. I heard horror stories about their battery life. It's quite possible some of the apps you currently have is causing the issue. Have you tried wiping your phone? software restore usually solves a lot issues after that download apps that you normally use one at a time to see how it reacts. That's the problem with Android it's too open where people that create apps don't have them tested for all device they assume that all their apps would work with all the os and not factoring the hardware side. I had mine for over a month now and i'm loving it not only the battery is amazing it much faster then my previous phone S4. I love the big screen as well i use to make fun of people with the big screen now i don't lol i see the advantage of it and plus even with smaller hands i've gotten use to the actually size holding it too.
 
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I'd also say try another launcher (unless you've already done that). My Note 3 and Note 4 perform(ed) sliq as glass with Nova Prime and the disabling of unloved apps.

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Now ive been an andriod user since The Evo...even with all its flaws, i thought it was the ****. Every phone after i thought the same. But lately ive been thinking about switching over to an Iphone6.

I love my Note 4, don't get me wrong but sometimes the lag/freezing/glitchiness gets frustrating. Like now, im writing this and the phone just pauses for a good 3 seconds, then unleashes a fury of words that gotten left behind lls...Unlock gitches, camera glitches etc...and it definitely isnt just mines, forums all around complain about the same.

Not looking for a comparison, just a simple, have you thought about making the switch to an Iphone?

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Maybe try a more stock device first. If you want to get out of the android ecosystem altogether, then the iPhone 6 is a solid choice. Maybe try a nexus 6 first and then see if the issues you are having persist (most likely they won't)
 
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I seriously find that hard to believe ...

I'm sorry. Maybe someday you'll have to call and talk to a few people in Customer Service and you'll see how wide of a range of responses you can get from people. Life experiences will help you to believe the unbelievable in time, especially when dealing with billion dollar corporations.
 
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I tried to go back to my iPhone 6 after a month with the Note 4 and I lasted <24 hours. Historically I've always gone back to an iPhone after using an Android for a week or two. The iPhone 6 now seems too puny to me and hard to type on! Plus I love being able to change the look of my phone with Nova whenever I want. I get sick of looking at the same thing all the time on the iPhone. It does have a great camera though.

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Re: Has anybody though about making &quot;The switch&quot;?

I seriously considered it for a hot second when I saw an amazing HDR pic where he zoomed in and the level of detail was amazing! I couldn't replicate that on my Note using HDR.
 
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I look forward to having both the Note 4 and an iPhone 5s/6/6+. The iPhone does offer simplicity and sometimes that can be just what the Dr. ordered (that's just a bad excuse I know). I like to have 2 phones, plain and simple. Variety. Whether that 2nd phone should be a Lumia 1020/1520 or iPhone will take further consideration.

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I seriously considered it for a hot second when I saw an amazing HDR pic where he zoomed in and the level of detail was amazing! I couldn't replicate that on my Note using HDR.

You are saying the level of detail was higher and better than what you could get on the Note4?

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You are saying the level of detail was higher and better than what you could get on the Note4?

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Perhaps the HDR results just made it seem so to her eye.

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Re: Has anybody though about making "The switch"?

I love my Note 4, don't get me wrong but sometimes the lag/freezing/glitchiness gets frustrating. Like now, im writing this and the phone just pauses for a good 3 seconds, then unleashes a fury of words that gotten left behind lls...Unlock gitches, camera glitches etc...and it definitely isnt just mines, forums all around complain about the same.

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Enable developer options on your phone and then in there check the 'Force GPU rendering' box. This will fix 98% of your lag issues (I don't have an SD card on my phone, not sure if that factors in any way but it shouldn't). This might cost you slightly in the battery life dept but I haven't really noticed a big difference.

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Re: Has anybody though about making "The switch"?

I have not considered going back to an iPhone for a second. Gave them every opportunity to retain my device business and they simply did not measure up.

As for the whole "it just works thing"...even that IMO is a thing of the past. Jobs must be turning in his grave by now.

Yosemite as the latest OS for their computers is as near a disaster as I have seen in over ten years of owning Macs. iTunes 11.4 fell flat on its face, forcing many into Yosemite just to get to iTunes 12. People who have gotten Macs with Yosemite installed are desperate to dump it and can't because of rigid controls Apple exercises over everything Apple whether a computer or a device.

I will stick with my Apple computers. But if they don't fix Yosemite soon I am going to back down to Mavericks which was no great shakes either and I have totally abandoned Apple for mobile devices. Would only consider those again at the point of a gun.
 
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I have not considered going back to an iPhone for a second. Gave them every opportunity to retain my device business and they simply did not measure up.

As for the whole "it just works thing"...even that IMO is a thing of the past. Jobs must be turning in his grave by now.

Yosemite as the latest OS for their computers is as near a disaster as I have seen in over ten years of owning Macs. iTunes 11.4 fell flat on its face, forcing many into Yosemite just to get to iTunes 12. People who have gotten Macs with Yosemite installed are desperate to dump it and can't because of rigid controls Apple exercises over everything Apple whether a computer or a device.

I will stick with my Apple computers. But if they don't fix Yosemite soon I am going to back down to Mavericks which was no great shakes either and I have totally abandoned Apple for mobile devices. Would only consider those again at the point of a gun.

I know this is not the forum for that but as one historically interested in Macs it's interesting to read that perspective. Wasn't aware there was widespread dislove for their latest OS.

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Re: Has anybody though about making &quot;The switch&quot;?

In my case I held off and held off on a new mobile device waiting to see what iPhone 6 and 6+ had to offer. 6+ is just an overgrown smartphone IMO. An iPhone with more screen real estate and that is about it. That again is just not good enough going on 2015 IMO. Fine for those that just want a mobile phone with a few Smartphone features but if you are ready for anything beyond that, the iPhone will likely disappoint.

As for the computer OS issues, I think they have been very painful for those of us who are Mac vets and remember the days of near flawless performance. Painful for new users wondering what the heck all the wonder they have been hearing about from Mac users was all about. It has been a slow deterioration over two OS. Mavericks was not bad but not classic Apple flawless either. Yosemite is just flat terrible if you ask me and others as well. Only those who continue to overdose on the Apple Koolaid are not leveling some amount of criticism at Yosemite.

Often an OS upgrade will have some issues on a maker's older computers and that is to be expected at least within reason. The issues with Yosemite go far beyond reasonable. However, people are struggling with brand new Macs with Yosemite preloaded as the base OS coming with the computer. That is truly alarming.
 

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