Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs. iPhone 6 Plus

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

Of course for functionality the Note 4 wins... But not everyone wants the stupidly large list of featured the Note 4 has.

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And like I showed in the video I posted yesterday in this thread, the features may be there, but as to whether they work as advertised and when you want them to work, that may be in question.

Some of the features, in my opinion, are pointless or just flat out not needed, others would likely use them.

So it depends on the user and what they want their phone to do.

On a case by case basis, assuming parties are open to both operating systems, I could easily see people going one way or the other depending on what they want from their device.


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[anon5664829]

And like I showed in the video I posted yesterday in this thread, the features may be there, but as to whether they work as advertised and when you want them to work, that may be in question.

Some of the features, in my opinion, are pointless or just flat out not needed, others would likely use them.

So it depends on the user and what they want their phone to do.

On a case by case basis, assuming parties are open to both operating systems, I could easily see people going one way or the other depending on what they want from their device.


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Thank you for being an unbiased user.

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[A895]

Of course for functionality the Note 4 wins... But not everyone wants the stupidly large list of featured the Note 4 has.

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That is fine, but to some features matter and why so many people favor the Note series. It is one of the best selling Android device line next to the Galaxy S devices. You do have the choice of turning off and not using a lot of the features you may not want though.

 

[A895]

The overwhelming response? Well this is android central so you know what the answer is going to be.

Both are great devices, it truly depends on the user and what is important to them in their next phone.

There's no clear cut answer.




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Of course not, but if you ask this on iMore you would get different responses too. So quite honestly you won't get any unbiased answer unless the person answering has competent experience with both. Or if the person does not like either, I quite honestly don't like phablets so I do not like either device.

 

[MDMcAtee]

Of course for functionality the Note 4 wins... But not everyone wants the stupidly large list of featured the Note 4 has.

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Well some people prefer a dumb flipphone too... Lol...

I wouldn't think that the amount of features would be considered a detriment normally, but only to a very small amount of people who would buy this phone. After all these features are a major selling point of the series and as what has already been said they can be turned off if preferred.

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[Soundtrack to Chaos]

Well some people prefer a dumb flipphone too... Lol...

I wouldn't think that the amount of features would be considered a detriment normally, but only to a very small amount of people who would buy this phone. After all these features are a major selling point of the series and as what has already been said they can be turned off if preferred.

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For the most part, I think we're both speaking to the stuff like:

Waving your hand over the screen to answer a call and the heart beat sensor and swiping your finger at a specific angle to unlock your phone, waving your hand over the screen for a screen shot, yards yada yada.

Things like that, not the actual reason people want a note, meaning specific pen related features,etc.

But we all know that a good percentage of those nonsense features (IMO), can be turned off.




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[GSOgymrat]

I am currently looking at the Galaxy Note 4 and iPhone 6 Plus. I have a Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone but dropped it down a flight of stairs and now the screen is cracked and touch response is damaged. I love the 1520 but I am thinking of trying iPhone or Android. From playing with them in the store there are things I like and don't like about each:

IPhone 6 Plus: Hands down the biggest advantage to iPhone is it gets all the best quality apps and accessories. Everything seems to be made for iPhone first and every other platform later. I also appreciate that everyone I know who has an iPhone loves it, and I mean LOVES it, and that speaks well for the product. I also like that it is relatively simple to use and has a clean UI. The fingerprint sensor seems useful and I was excited by Apple Pay but it looks like that might become a niche service. I don't particularly care for the hardware: no expandable storage, no dedicated camera button, back is slippery and I wish the screen was 6 inches. I also don't own any other Apple products and don't know how well all my Microsoft services will work with Apple.

Note 4: I really like the Note 4 hardware. I love the textured back, expandable storage, removable battery, screen quality. I also like that Android has more apps than Windows Phone. From what I have read Android is very customizable and the Note 4 has so many different settings, functions and tricks it is both impressive and kind of overwhelming. Honestly I will probably never take the stylus out of it's hole and I won't ever use 50% of the Note 4's features but it is nice to have them just in case. I don't like the UI very much: the row of symbols at the top of the screen, the Google Search box that seems to be on the screen all the time (which I won't use because I prefer Bing), the Flip Board style interface (I hope that can be turned off). As with Apple, I don't know exactly how well Android does Microsoft services because I have no intention of using Gmail, Google search or other Google services.

I think I would really rather have the Nexus 6 than the Note 4 because it has a 6-inch screen but I can't wait because right now my 1520 is barely functional. Honestly other than app selection there is nothing I don't like about the 1520-- I love the huge screen, polycarbonate body, live tiles, Cortana, 20 megapixel camera, Office, Xbox Music-- but when sites like The Verge declare the iPhone 6 "the best phone on the market" and the Note 4 has so many features I fear that maybe I am missing out and living in a fool's paradise with Window Phone.

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

I am currently looking at the Galaxy Note 4 and iPhone 6 Plus. I have a Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone but dropped it down a flight of stairs and now the screen is cracked and touch response is damaged. I love the 1520 but I am thinking of trying iPhone or Android. From playing with them in the store there are things I like and don't like about each:

IPhone 6 Plus: Hands down the biggest advantage to iPhone is it gets all the best quality apps and accessories. Everything seems to be made for iPhone first and every other platform later. I also appreciate that everyone I know who has an iPhone loves it, and I mean LOVES it, and that speaks well for the product. I also like that it is relatively simple to use and has a clean UI. The fingerprint sensor seems useful and I was excited by Apple Pay but it looks like that might become a niche service. I don't particularly care for the hardware: no expandable storage, no dedicated camera button, back is slippery and I wish the screen was 6 inches. I also don't own any other Apple products and don't know how well all my Microsoft services will work with Apple.

Note 4: I really like the Note 4 hardware. I love the textured back, expandable storage, removable battery, screen quality. I also like that Android has more apps than Windows Phone. From what I have read Android is very customizable and the Note 4 has so many different settings, functions and tricks it is both impressive and kind of overwhelming. Honestly I will probably never take the stylus out of it's hole and I won't ever use 50% of the Note 4's features but it is nice to have them just in case. I don't like the UI very much: the row of symbols at the top of the screen, the Google Search box that seems to be on the screen all the time (which I won't use because I prefer Bing), the Flip Board style interface (I hope that can be turned off). As with Apple, I don't know exactly how well Android does Microsoft services because I have no intention of using Gmail, Google search or other Google services.

I think I would really rather have the Nexus 6 than the Note 4 because it has a 6-inch screen but I can't wait because right now my 1520 is barely functional. Honestly other than app selection there is nothing I don't like about the 1520-- I love the huge screen, polycarbonate body, live tiles, Cortana, 20 megapixel camera, Office, Xbox Music-- but when sites like The Verge declare the iPhone 6 "the best phone on the market" and the Note 4 has so many features I fear that maybe I am missing out and living in a fool's paradise with Window Phone.

Don't let sites like the verge influence what device you want to use, there's no such thing as "best phone on the market", it's subjective, you have to make the decision of whars the best smartphone for you and your needs.

From the sounds of it, your best bet would be either the nexus 6 or the iPhone 6. I'm not sure the note is the device for you after reading your post, but here are some reviews from a very down to earth reviewer who doesn't BS and buys all his devices with his own money.

http://youtu.be/qdYuj2NSZZ0

http://youtu.be/LR4r-RGoXEs

They're a little lengthy, but if you want the best possible look at a phone and how it is in real world usage, take a look at those and it may help your decision a bit.

But as I said, it sounds like you may want a nexus 6.


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[JeffDenver]

I think I would really rather have the Nexus 6 than the Note 4 because it has a 6-inch screen but I can't wait because right now my 1520 is barely functional.

Are you on Verizon? If so. have you considered the Droid Turbo? It has the same stuff as the nexus spec-wise.

Between an iPhone and a Note 4 I'd get the Note 4, although I am not a huge fan of Samsung. You are right that their hardware is awesome, but you will be tethered to Touchwiz. I have used phones with both Touchwiz and Sense and hate it. Moto phones used to be just as bad, but since the Moto X they are much cleaner. Almost vanialla Android at this point.

That being said, my sister has a Note 2 and a Note 3 and absolutely loves them. Like you, she does not use the stylus either. She doesn't seem as bothered by touchwiz as I am.

The Nexus 6 should be available before Thanksgiving. But you probably will not see a carrier-subsidized version until at least Dec.

I don't like the UI very much: the row of symbols at the top of the screen

Neither do I. Fortunatly, that problem is easy to solve with a Launcher...I use Nova Launcher. It mimics the Vanilla Android desktop, but gives you a lot more custimization. You can remove that Google search widget and even add a Bing one if you want. The transition UI can be customized as well. The simple and clean icon-only UI can be replicated on Android if thats what you like. The main reason I never liked the iPhone UI is that it looks too cluttered to me. On Android you can arrange the icons how you like them and remove the clutter.

As with Apple, I don't know exactly how well Android does Microsoft services because I have no intention of using Gmail, Google search or other Google services.

iPhones are going to use Apple services by default. You can still use all the same services that are on Android or Windows phones, but you can't make them the default.

One of the things I like about Android is that you can use an Android phone without a single Google service installed if you want. You don't even have to use the Play store unless you want to. You won't need a Gmail address or anything...the services are completely optional.

The fingerprint sensor seems useful and I was excited by Apple Pay but it looks like that might become a niche service.

It is likely that Apple will allow developers access to this eventually, but it may be a while. Right now it is a crippled version of real NFC...it only works for Apple pay and nothing else.

Some Android phones also have fingerprint sensors...the Samsung flagship phones do.

EDIT - Apple pay is not really a niche service...it is just Apple's version of NFC, and NFC is a generic standard. Both Google Wallet and Apple Pay can use retailer NFC stations.The only competitor to Apple Pay/Google Wallet is something called CurrentC, which everyone hates and which seems to be prone to hacking. There are reasons I'd pass on the iPhone, but Apple Pay isn't one of them. That is likely to be here to stay.

 

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Are you on Verizon? If so. have you considered the Droid Turbo? It has the same stuff as the nexus spec-wise.

Between an iPhone and a Note 4 I'd get the Note 4, although I am not a huge fan of Samsung. You are right that their hardware is awesome, but you will be tethered to Touchwiz. I have used phones with both Touchwiz and Sense and hate it. Moto phones used to be just as bad, but since the Moto X they are much cleaner. Almost vanialla Android at this point.

That being said, my sister has a Note 2 and a Note 3 and absolutely loves them. Like you, she does not use the stylus either. She doesn't seem as bothered by touchwiz as I am.

The Nexus 6 should be available before Thanksgiving. But you probably will not see a carrier-subsidized version until at least Dec.


Neither do I. Fortunatly, that problem is easy to solve with a Launcher...I use Nova Launcher. It mimics the Vanilla Android desktop, but gives you a lot more custimization. You can remove that Google search widget and even add a Bing one if you want. The transition UI can be customized as well. The simple and clean icon-only UI can be replicated on Android if thats what you like. The main reason I never liked the iPhone UI is that it looks too cluttered to me. On Android you can arrange the icons how you like them and remove the clutter.


iPhones are going to use Apple services by default. You can still use all the same services that are on Android or Windows phones, but you can't make them the default.

One of the things I like about Android is that you can use an Android phone without a single Google service installed if you want. You don't even have to use the Play store unless you want to. You won't need a Gmail address or anything...the services are completely optional.


It is likely that Apple will allow developers access to this eventually, but it may be a while. Right now it is a crippled version of real NFC...it only works for Apple pay and nothing else.

Some Android phones also have fingerprint sensors...the Samsung flagship phones do.

EDIT - Apple pay is not really a niche service...it is just Apple's version of NFC, and NFC is a generic standard. Both Google Wallet and Apple Pay can use retailer NFC stations.The only competitor to Apple Pay/Google Wallet is something called CurrentC, which everyone hates and which seems to be prone to hacking. There are reasons I'd pass on the iPhone, but Apple Pay isn't one of them. That is likely to be here to stay.

Not sure what you mean by "iPhones are going to use Apple services by default. You can still use all the same services that are on Android or Windows phones, but you can't make them the default."

You're not forced to use apples stuff. I don't use their mail client, I use cloud magic for my email.

You also don't have to use their calendar or reminder or any of those types of apps, however I choose to use them because I see no difference or advantage in the 3rd party offerings.




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[JeffDenver]

Not sure what you mean by "iPhones are going to use Apple services by default. You can still use all the same services that are on Android or Windows phones, but you can't make them the default."

You're not forced to use apples stuff. I don't use their mail client, I use cloud magic for my email.

You need an Apple ID to access the App store. And the App Store is the only store you can install apps from. You cannot sideload apps or use any alternative market without jailbreaking.

If there is a way to use the App store without an Apple ID, I'd love to know it. I have a few friends with iPhones that never install new apps because they can't for this reason. They don't know (or can't remember) their Apple IDs.

You also don't have to use their calendar or reminder or any of those types of apps, however I choose to use them because I see no difference or advantage in the 3rd party offerings.

Apple apps are the default. If you click on an email link, it will not open Gmail or Outlook. It'll open Apple mail. If you click on a web address, it will not open Chrome by default...it will open Safari. The defaults will always be Apple stuff (unless you count keyboards).

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

You need an Apple ID to access the App store. And the App Store is the only store you can install apps from. You cannot sideload apps or use any alternative market without jailbreaking.

If there is a way to use the App store without an Apple ID, I'd love to know it. I have a few friends with iPhones that never install new apps because they can't for this reason. They don't know (or can't remember) their Apple IDs.


Apple apps are the default. If you click on an email link, it will not open Gmail or Outlook. It'll open Apple mail. If you click on a web address, it will not open Chrome by default...it will open Safari. The defaults will always be Apple stuff (unless you count keyboards).

Don't you need a Google email to access the play store? Lol. I'm pretty sure the first thing you have to do when you boot up a droid is to sign in with your Google email and then sign into the play store with it.

Same process on iOS.

As for side loading, I'm not sure what's so exciting about downloading apps from some market. We all know if the app had good intentions, you wouldn't have to side load it, it would be on the play store.

I'm not sure how being able to download potentially dangerous or inappropriate apps could be a positive.

The only alternate market on Android worth dealing with is amazon, but only because they give apps. It's not exactly like they have exclusive apps that can only be downloaded there.

So again, not seeing much of a big deal with that, especially for a newcomer to the OS.

You can create a new ID or sign out of any ID at any time.

As I stated, Apple doesn't force you to use their apps. However you are correct on the email and safari points. When you click on an email link you are sent to the Apple mail app, however this mainly happens when you are sending an email, so I'm not sure if this would bother you because there's not anything different when it comes to typing and sending out an email across apps.

And the safari thing, being that it's the only browser I use on all my devices, it doesn't bother me.


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[anon5664829]

You need an Apple ID to access the App store. And the App Store is the only store you can install apps from. You cannot sideload apps or use any alternative market without jailbreaking.

If there is a way to use the App store without an Apple ID, I'd love to know it. I have a few friends with iPhones that never install new apps because they can't for this reason. They don't know (or can't remember) their Apple IDs.


Apple apps are the default. If you click on an email link, it will not open Gmail or Outlook. It'll open Apple mail. If you click on a web address, it will not open Chrome by default...it will open Safari. The defaults will always be Apple stuff (unless you count keyboards).

Never bothered about the default thing. Safari is an amazing browser

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[WeAreAllUnique]

Never bothered about the default thing. Safari is an amazing browser

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I really like safari too. And I like the unique features that come with it.


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[JeffDenver]

Don't you need a Google email to access the play store? Lol. I'm pretty sure the first thing you have to do when you boot up a droid is to sign in with your Google email and then sign into the play store with it.

LOL, pretty sure you're wrong.

No, you do not need a Gmail address at all. It prompts you for one, but you can skip it if you want to. I used to skip it on purpose back when Google tried to auto-restore my apps (this was a huge problem on a Droid 1, because of the limited internal storage it had).

You only need a Gmail address if you want to use the Play store...if you are using an alt market (like Amazon) or sideloading all your apps, a Gmail address is not needed. Contrary to popular belief, Android phones are not Google Phones. Google is just so awesome everyone installs it by default, but it's not compulsory. Not even on Nexus phones.

You can use and Android phone with only Microsoft apps on it if you really want to. It's not something I'd ever recommend, but it can be done, and it can be done without jailbreaking or rooting or anything.

As for side loading, I'm not sure what's so exciting about downloading apps from some market.

If Apple happens to censor an app you like, you might feel differently.

I am running Gmail 5.0 now...Google has not released it to the Play store. But because I can sideload, I can install it myself, even if Google has not made it available.

We all know if the app had good intentions, you wouldn't have to side load it, it would be on the play store.

It's nice that Google allows me to make that choice for myself. In this case, I, as the end user, decided I was willing to take the "risk" and sideload it myself. I appreciate Google treating me like an adult.

I'm not sure how being able to download potentially dangerous or inappropriate apps could be a positive.

Who gets to decide if it is "inappropriate"? I paid for the phone...shouldn't I get to decide that for myself?

So again, not seeing much of a big deal with that, especially for a newcomer to the OS.

Choices are not a bad thing. I like having the ability to choose for myself rather than Google/Apple/whoever choosing for me. I'm not a child.

You can create a new ID or sign out of any ID at any time.

Apparently that takes all your texts and emails with it though. As well as any aps you might have paid for on it.

By contrast, I can have multiple gmail accounts on my phone at once. I can switch between them at will and even use them simultaneously.

Believe it or not, I actually have an Apple ID. I was required to get one in order to buy music from iTunes (which I still do, even today).

And the safari thing, being that it's the only browser I use on all my devices, it doesn't bother me.

If you are they type of person who happens to like all Apple apps the best, then yeah, you won't miss having a choice. That person is not invested in the Apple ecosystem though and it sounds like they want to continue using their own stuff (which is probably mostly Microsoft). For that person, no 3rd party app integration might be a problem.

 

[JeffDenver]

Never bothered about the default thing. Safari is an amazing browser

Chrome seems to be pretty popular on iOS...for the people that like it the best it must be annoying to have Safari as the default and not be able to change it.

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

LOL, pretty sure you're wrong.

No, you do not need a Gmail address at all. It prompts you for one, but you can skip it if you want to. I used to skip it on purpose back when Google tried to auto-restore my apps (this was a huge problem on a Droid 1, because of the limited internal storage it had).

You only need a Gmail address if you want to use the Play store...if you are using an alt market (like Amazon) or sideloading all your apps, a Gmail address is not needed. Contrary to popular belief, Android phones are not Google Phones. Google is just so awesome everyone installs it by default, but it's not compulsory. Not even on Nexus phones.

You can use and Android phone with only Microsoft apps on it if you really want to. It's not something I'd ever recommend, but it can be done, and it can be done without jailbreaking or rooting or anything.


If Apple happens to censor an app you like, you might feel differently.

I am running Gmail 5.0 now...Google has not released it to the Play store. But because I can sideload, I can install it myself, even if Google has not made it available.


It's nice that Google allows me to make that choice for myself. In this case, I, as the end user, decided I was willing to take the "risk" and sideload it myself. I appreciate Google treating me like an adult.


Who gets to decide if it is "inappropriate"? I paid for the phone...shouldn't I get to decide that for myself?


Choices are not a bad thing. I like having the ability to choose for myself rather than Google/Apple/whoever choosing for me. I'm not a child.


Apparently that takes all your texts and emails with it though.

By contrast, I can have multiple gmail accounts on my phone at once. I can switch between them at will and even use them simultaneously.

Believe it or not, I actually have an Apple ID. I was required to get one in order to buy music from iTunes (which I still do, even today).


If you are they type of person who happens to like all Apple apps the best, then yeah, you won't miss having a choice. That person is not invested in the Apple ecosystem though and it sounds liek they want to continue using their own stuff (which is probably mostly Microsoft). For that person, no 3rd party app integration might be a problem.

LOL, I'm sure he wants to buy an android phone so he can access the stock play store, meaning that he would need a Gmail account.

The same way he would need an apple ID to access the app store.

I'm not sure his primary reason for going to a new OS is so that he can download apps from online and not the store with millions of apps. So again, on both operating systems, it's the same process, he will have to sign in with a Gmail or iCloud account.

Fairly simple process and nothing to be scared about.

Also, you don't have to use the same iCloud account for the app store and for texts, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, as usual.

You can also use multiple Gmail accounts, so again, just more speculation from someone who has never used the operating system.

Microsoft Office, one drive and all their apps are available on iOS, so unless it's some special thing that he's been doing on his windows phone, he can freely transition to iOS or Android without worries.



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[anon5664829]

LOL, pretty sure you're wrong.

No, you do not need a Gmail address at all. It prompts you for one, but you can skip it if you want to. I used to skip it on purpose back when Google tried to auto-restore my apps (this was a huge problem on a Droid 1, because of the limited internal storage it had).

You only need a Gmail address if you want to use the Play store...if you are using an alt market (like Amazon) or sideloading all your apps, a Gmail address is not needed. Contrary to popular belief, Android phones are not Google Phones. Google is just so awesome everyone installs it by default, but it's not compulsory. Not even on Nexus phones.

You can use and Android phone with only Microsoft apps on it if you really want to. It's not something I'd ever recommend, but it can be done, and it can be done without jailbreaking or rooting or anything.


If Apple happens to censor an app you like, you might feel differently.

I am running Gmail 5.0 now...Google has not released it to the Play store. But because I can sideload, I can install it myself, even if Google has not made it available.


It's nice that Google allows me to make that choice for myself. In this case, I, as the end user, decided I was willing to take the "risk" and sideload it myself. I appreciate Google treating me like an adult.


Who gets to decide if it is "inappropriate"? I paid for the phone...shouldn't I get to decide that for myself?


Choices are not a bad thing. I like having the ability to choose for myself rather than Google/Apple/whoever choosing for me. I'm not a child.


Apparently that takes all your texts and emails with it though.

By contrast, I can have multiple gmail accounts on my phone at once. I can switch between them at will and even use them simultaneously.

Believe it or not, I actually have an Apple ID. I was required to get one in order to buy music from iTunes (which I still do, even today).


If you are they type of person who happens to like all Apple apps the best, then yeah, you won't miss having a choice. That person is not invested in the Apple ecosystem though and it sounds like they want to continue using their own stuff (which is probably mostly Microsoft). For that person, no 3rd party app integration might be a problem.

But they can use Microsoft services on iOS easily. Stop trying to push your agenda.
For someone that shouts a lot about choice, you sure as hell don't seem to let other people have a choice in what THEY want.

Also you missed his point. I can also skip signing in with my Apple ID on an iPhone but I don't because its useful...
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[JeffDenver]

But they can use Microsoft services on iOS easily.

...not really. Because defaults will always remain with the Apple equivalent app. iOs will never treat non-Apple apps as if they are native. Because of that, I don't agree that they can be used as easily.

Stop trying to push your agenda.

Stop trying to censor me.

 

[anon5664829]

...not really. Because defaults will always remain with the Apple equivalent app. iOs will never treat non-Apple apps as if they are native. Because of that, I don't agree that they can be used as easily.


Stop trying to censor me.

What the actual ****? Because apps can't be turned to default they can't be used? K den....


Wow. You can EASILY use other apps. I used Gmail in place of the default Mail app for when I did have my iPhones.

Also where the hell am I censoring you? Stop being so damn paranoid.

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