I must agree between task killer and draining the battery completely a few times fix my battery problem.I used to go maybe 8 to 12 hours before the battery always die on me,now I can get up to two full days and a little more before it dies completely.My advice condition your battery if you are having problems,you be glad you did.Good luck!
Samsung Moment battery life
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I must agree between task killer and draining the battery completely a few times fix my battery problem.I used to go maybe 8 to 12 hours before the battery always die on me,now I can get up to two full days and a little more before it dies completely.My advice condition your battery if you are having problems,you be glad you did.Good luck!
I have taken my Moment in for the update and was amazed at the change in battery life. I use my phone pretty heavy for surfing, txting and such and used to have to plug it in within 4 to 5 hours. Now I can go almost two days before having to worry about it.
It is true that my phone would show an 80% charge after a very short time and now will stay at 100% for a few hours. I am not sure if the fix is for battery reporting or actually cleans up messy coding. I am convinced that some of the Samsung proprietary apps do chew up the battery. I had a moto droid for two weeks before having to switch to sprint. The Droid does not have any of these "apps" and lasted longer on the battery.
I really hope that when 2.1 is release, that it will negate the need for these apps and remove them.
I just dropped by the Sprint tech service store this morning, they are refusing to update Moments anymore, apparently a fair number of them aren't taking the update (and ending up unusable) so they stopped doing this update until a better fix comes out, they had no ETA.
My Moment is a week old, battery life pretty bad. Turned off background updates this morning to see if any better. If I leave the phone on at night, unplugged, when I wake up it is essentially dead again.
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Ok, I have a loosely related question. I've seen alot of folks saying it's taken a few days for their battery to "normalize" (aka the software to begin to anticpate usage vs battery drain). The question though is have people noticed the 15% hangup begin to shift lower as things improve? I'm curious because my battery drained to a reported 5% in approx. 5 hours of use, but has hung there, with no usage change, for almost 90 minutes and still seems to be going strong. Overall I'm not complaining, but it does leave me a bit unsettled, wondering when it's finally going to die. Just some food for thought, but if anyone has noticed something similar I'd be interested in hearing your observations.
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It now seems to be doing the same thing at 3%, I'd say I got a good two hours, perhaps even a hair longer before ticking from 5% down to 3%, and now where it'd normally shut off automatically I've been able to download a new app and update three others... I'll admit, I'm a bit shocked, but certainly not complaining.
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It now seems to be doing the same thing at 3%, I'd say I got a good two hours, perhaps even a hair longer before ticking from 5% down to 3%, and now where it'd normally shut off automatically I've been able to download a new app and update three others... I'll admit, I'm a bit shocked, but certainly not complaining.
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I've come to the conclusion that ALL Samsung touchscreen phones (esp with push capabilities, GPS, WiFi & BT) all suck battery like crazy.
This battery problem is not unique to the Moment. If you read the forums of other Samsung smartphones, they too suffer from the same battery issue.
True, you can improve battery life by turning off services like background data, GPS, WiFi, BT and other applications that require active radio transmission but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a smartphone in the first place. It changes your phone from a smrtphone to a dumbphone. Yes, you have the capabilities to do a bunch of things, but if all services are on, then your battery life suffers dearly.
It doesn't help either that Samsung seems to have a battery calibration issue with the Moment too.
Usually all the "updates" do to greatly improve the battery life is to shut down services and tone down the screen (a battery hog) and enable a "power saver" state. Updates are generally for the masses of owners that can't figure out how to do it manually, so they make it simple by incorporating all the power saving configuration canned in an "update". But to give them some credit, there's probably some code, algorithm improvement tweaks, oh and bug fixes too.
We as consumer/users have to accept the fact that smartphones that can do everything are battery hogs and may be tempted to leave all services on. And by doing so, our battery life will suffer. Because we are smarter than our smartphones, we have to learn how to conserve out battery. And that is done by smart use. Turn off services if not needed. Turn on when needed. It's kinda like a house, we don't turn on all the lights in every room. Or a car with every conceivable option, you don't turn them all on and a bunch of other analogies.
For now, we have to take it upon ourselves to maximize the battery life of our phones until Samsung and other manufacturers can design more efficient screens, chips, battery, circuitry and algorithms. We haven't seen anything yet. Future phones will be faster, have multiple core processors, graphics co-processors and bigger screens. The form factor will have to be the SAME hand held size. Therefore that calls for circuitry and BATTERY improvements.
Can you imagine all the people you want to impress all huddled around your future super fast super smartphone that can do everything.....you power it on....the screen flashes with a bunch of dazzling screens....everybody’s jaw drops with amazement...and blip... your screen blanks out? haha just a joke....
My Moment suffers from short battery life too. Conservation helps. Greatly. I figure I use it for a phone most of the time. I have the capabilities to surf the internet, GPS when needed. I check email WHEN I WANT TO, not pushed to me. If you need email as a priority, then a Blackberry is better. But for the most, I use my Moment as a PHONE.
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This battery problem is not unique to the Moment. If you read the forums of other Samsung smartphones, they too suffer from the same battery issue.
True, you can improve battery life by turning off services like background data, GPS, WiFi, BT and other applications that require active radio transmission but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a smartphone in the first place. It changes your phone from a smrtphone to a dumbphone. Yes, you have the capabilities to do a bunch of things, but if all services are on, then your battery life suffers dearly.
It doesn't help either that Samsung seems to have a battery calibration issue with the Moment too.
Usually all the "updates" do to greatly improve the battery life is to shut down services and tone down the screen (a battery hog) and enable a "power saver" state. Updates are generally for the masses of owners that can't figure out how to do it manually, so they make it simple by incorporating all the power saving configuration canned in an "update". But to give them some credit, there's probably some code, algorithm improvement tweaks, oh and bug fixes too.
We as consumer/users have to accept the fact that smartphones that can do everything are battery hogs and may be tempted to leave all services on. And by doing so, our battery life will suffer. Because we are smarter than our smartphones, we have to learn how to conserve out battery. And that is done by smart use. Turn off services if not needed. Turn on when needed. It's kinda like a house, we don't turn on all the lights in every room. Or a car with every conceivable option, you don't turn them all on and a bunch of other analogies.
For now, we have to take it upon ourselves to maximize the battery life of our phones until Samsung and other manufacturers can design more efficient screens, chips, battery, circuitry and algorithms. We haven't seen anything yet. Future phones will be faster, have multiple core processors, graphics co-processors and bigger screens. The form factor will have to be the SAME hand held size. Therefore that calls for circuitry and BATTERY improvements.
Can you imagine all the people you want to impress all huddled around your future super fast super smartphone that can do everything.....you power it on....the screen flashes with a bunch of dazzling screens....everybody’s jaw drops with amazement...and blip... your screen blanks out? haha just a joke....
My Moment suffers from short battery life too. Conservation helps. Greatly. I figure I use it for a phone most of the time. I have the capabilities to surf the internet, GPS when needed. I check email WHEN I WANT TO, not pushed to me. If you need email as a priority, then a Blackberry is better. But for the most, I use my Moment as a PHONE.
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Good news....
Like I said "For now, we have to take it upon ourselves to maximize the battery life of our phones until Samsung and other manufacturers can design more efficient screens, chips, battery, circuitry and algorithms."
Here's an excerpt from an article I just read...
Swiss firm claims huge boost in Android app performance, battery life with new virtual machine -- Engadget
At the core of Anrdoid lies a little bundle of code known as the Dalvik virtual machine, a runtime environment for Java apps that's specifically optimized for hardware with limited memory and processor power -- you know, the kind of situation you find in your average smartphone.....
Hang in there folks!! (but don't hold your breath lol)
Like I said "For now, we have to take it upon ourselves to maximize the battery life of our phones until Samsung and other manufacturers can design more efficient screens, chips, battery, circuitry and algorithms."
Here's an excerpt from an article I just read...
Swiss firm claims huge boost in Android app performance, battery life with new virtual machine -- Engadget
At the core of Anrdoid lies a little bundle of code known as the Dalvik virtual machine, a runtime environment for Java apps that's specifically optimized for hardware with limited memory and processor power -- you know, the kind of situation you find in your average smartphone.....
Hang in there folks!! (but don't hold your breath lol)
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So I just bought a OEM replacement battery from Ebay. It show up and to my surprize it is a 1500mAh vs. the standard 1440mAh that came with my moment.
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Hope everyone is as lucky as I am if they purchase from this seller!!!
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Hope everyone is as lucky as I am if they purchase from this seller!!!
Please let us know how your OEM battery compares to the original Samsung battery.
One other thing they both have the same samsung part number!
I have already "conditioned" the original battery, and I have mixed results.
Some days it goes for ever, multiple days in a row. some days it's at 15% by 5pm coming off the charger at 7am mulitply days in a row
I have already "conditioned" the original battery, and I have mixed results.
Some days it goes for ever, multiple days in a row. some days it's at 15% by 5pm coming off the charger at 7am mulitply days in a row
It is impossible to "condition" a lithium-ion battery. Circuitry within the battery pack regulates both charge and discharge rates. Allowing the handset to die and charging the battery to full will allow the phone to set the battery life prediction algorithm. Using multiple batteries may result in slight differences in how the battery meter displays the status of the battery.
I run 2 OEM batteries, they both last about 10 hours(i am a heavy user), but one will hang out between 70 - 100% and drop to 5% quickly, the other will drop to 50% quickly and hang out there for quite some time.
nothing works
i have tried everything even the rom with cl14 nothing has improved my battery life. I can not get thru a day with even very little use
i have tried everything even the rom with cl14 nothing has improved my battery life. I can not get thru a day with even very little use
i haven't read through this entire post yet, so i'm not sure if it was noted but... have you guys tried to charge through the usb connected into the computer? so far, my battery hasnt dropped to 80% right after disconnecting the usb charger. perhaps its an issue with the wall charger and the phone taking the charge. granted, this may only be specific to me but i'll make sure to post back my results on battery life.
edit: got about 2 days of moderate use with that charge via usb, compared to half a day of moderate use with the wall charger
edit: got about 2 days of moderate use with that charge via usb, compared to half a day of moderate use with the wall charger
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well what works best for me to let the phone battery run down until it shuts off then charge it until full. before i take the phone off the charger turn the phone on "it says 90%" and use my app killer then let charge some more until it says it's 100% charged.
i dont use the phone until it cools back down.. it seems if you start using right off the charger the battery goes faster. i been getting about 24-26 hours of regular use.
i dont use the phone until it cools back down.. it seems if you start using right off the charger the battery goes faster. i been getting about 24-26 hours of regular use.
Best solution to maximize the battery life on your samsung moment:
BEST SOLUTION TO MAXIMIZE THE BATTERY LIFE ON YOUR SAMSUNG MOMENT:
I had the same problem as everybody else on my Samsung Moment (SPH-M900) phone. I contacted Sprint for help, but gave up after talking to 5 different tech support representatives, none were able to figure it out. After days of missing calls I figured it out myself. Follow these steps:
1. Click on your Market icon
2. Click on Applications
3. Click on All Applications
4. Find Advanced Task Killer and download it to your phone
5. Once downloaded, move it to the main screen because you're going to use it often.
Everytime before you close your phone click on the Advanced Task Killer icon, you'll see a lot of applications running with a check mark next to them, click on the KILL selected apps button. You'll go from a couple hours of battery life to at least 24 hours.
BEST SOLUTION TO MAXIMIZE THE BATTERY LIFE ON YOUR SAMSUNG MOMENT:
I had the same problem as everybody else on my Samsung Moment (SPH-M900) phone. I contacted Sprint for help, but gave up after talking to 5 different tech support representatives, none were able to figure it out. After days of missing calls I figured it out myself. Follow these steps:
1. Click on your Market icon
2. Click on Applications
3. Click on All Applications
4. Find Advanced Task Killer and download it to your phone
5. Once downloaded, move it to the main screen because you're going to use it often.
Everytime before you close your phone click on the Advanced Task Killer icon, you'll see a lot of applications running with a check mark next to them, click on the KILL selected apps button. You'll go from a couple hours of battery life to at least 24 hours.
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Have you installed Advanced Task Killer? It is free and will kill apps that run in the background. One way to find out how many apps are running is after you install the Advanced Task Killer, turn off your phone. Turn it back on and wait a minute. Then hit the task killer, I guarantee you that you will have over 10 apps running in the background.
You should also turn off your GPS, WIFI, and Blue Tooth unless you need them. One easy way to turn them on and off is to install the battery widget (free).
One other thing, have your software updated at the Sprint store.
I had the same problems as you did but after doing these things, I can get a whole days use with lots of talking, emailing, and using the web.
Have you installed Advanced Task Killer? It is free and will kill apps that run in the background. One way to find out how many apps are running is after you install the Advanced Task Killer, turn off your phone. Turn it back on and wait a minute. Then hit the task killer, I guarantee you that you will have over 10 apps running in the background.
You should also turn off your GPS, WIFI, and Blue Tooth unless you need them. One easy way to turn them on and off is to install the battery widget (free).
One other thing, have your software updated at the Sprint store.
I had the same problems as you did but after doing these things, I can get a whole days use with lots of talking, emailing, and using the web.
Finally a solution for the samsung moment battery life
I have had my moment for a little over a week. I switched it out after the first two days because I was sure it was a bad battery/phone. The 2nd phone had the same issue. I turned off the GPS, bluetooth, wi-fi, data roaming and still my battery was only lasting 3 hours before I would have to put it on a charger. Finally noticed it was constantly syncing to my email for updates. If you have a work email and don't mind it updating once an hour or so this is the perfect solution...
Go to settings, exchange activesync, Profile, change the profile from direct push mode to manual mode or custom mode. The direct push mode causes the phone to constantly sync and drains the battery. In custom mode you can set it to only sync at certain times. In manual it will only sync when you push to sync. After I changed these settings my phone went from 3 total hours before dead to 10 hours!!! My next step was to try the task killer programs, but luckily this worked!
I love this phone and was ready to take it back because of the battery. I can live with my email not coming through instantly to save the battery life. Plus, if I really need to know if I have a new email I can sync it manually whenever I am curious. Hope this helps someone else out there.
I have had my moment for a little over a week. I switched it out after the first two days because I was sure it was a bad battery/phone. The 2nd phone had the same issue. I turned off the GPS, bluetooth, wi-fi, data roaming and still my battery was only lasting 3 hours before I would have to put it on a charger. Finally noticed it was constantly syncing to my email for updates. If you have a work email and don't mind it updating once an hour or so this is the perfect solution...
Go to settings, exchange activesync, Profile, change the profile from direct push mode to manual mode or custom mode. The direct push mode causes the phone to constantly sync and drains the battery. In custom mode you can set it to only sync at certain times. In manual it will only sync when you push to sync. After I changed these settings my phone went from 3 total hours before dead to 10 hours!!! My next step was to try the task killer programs, but luckily this worked!
I love this phone and was ready to take it back because of the battery. I can live with my email not coming through instantly to save the battery life. Plus, if I really need to know if I have a new email I can sync it manually whenever I am curious. Hope this helps someone else out there.
I as well can only get a good 8 hours out of my phone with not much use. I have less than a week, so I haven't had a chance to fully utilize all the phone has to offer.
The first couple of days it sat at my desk all day at work with just a couple of phone calls, emails and text messages. By the time I got home from work, the phone was down to 15% battery.
I found this on Samsung's webite to kill apps:
SPH-M900 - How To Maximize Battery Life SAMSUNG
I have been using Advanced Task Killer, but a lot of apps restart themselves after I kill them. Does anyone know how to permanently kill them? I have no need for the NFL or NASCAR apps, and since they are preloaded from Sprint, they cannot be uninstalled. I have GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth disabled unless I need them. If the Background data is turned off, some things won't work like the Market. What's the point in having a phone that does all this stuff and then not use it. If all I wanted was a phone, I would have got a freebie phone that does nothing but make calls and texts.
I have tried charging my phone via USB and found no difference other that the battery did not get hot, since it's less power going to the phone, and it took much longer to charge.
I am on my second day of draining and charging, will see how that goes.
The first couple of days it sat at my desk all day at work with just a couple of phone calls, emails and text messages. By the time I got home from work, the phone was down to 15% battery.
I found this on Samsung's webite to kill apps:
SPH-M900 - How To Maximize Battery Life SAMSUNG
I have been using Advanced Task Killer, but a lot of apps restart themselves after I kill them. Does anyone know how to permanently kill them? I have no need for the NFL or NASCAR apps, and since they are preloaded from Sprint, they cannot be uninstalled. I have GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth disabled unless I need them. If the Background data is turned off, some things won't work like the Market. What's the point in having a phone that does all this stuff and then not use it. If all I wanted was a phone, I would have got a freebie phone that does nothing but make calls and texts.
I have tried charging my phone via USB and found no difference other that the battery did not get hot, since it's less power going to the phone, and it took much longer to charge.
I am on my second day of draining and charging, will see how that goes.
I've been reading quite a lot on the battery life of the Moment. Thought I would give my input. I just received my Moment this past Monday, it is now Saturday. I installed a task killer right away. Not the one everyone else has recommended but a different one. You can set which programs you want to run all the time. Once the screen goes dark it automatically kills everything running with the exception of the ones you have selected if any. I also registered the phone for warranty purposes on Samsung's website and found out that the phone was only manufactured a couple of weeks before I received it. I also found that it already had cl14 installed. So far so good.
Since I received the phone in the evening from the sprint website I was able to charge it all night and first use it the next morning. I decided to do the charge and discharge procedure right away. On my initial charge I already got two whole days of usage with moderate use. I don't talk to much but I do play on the web and with other applications quite a bit. The battery finally died on the second day at about 10:30 pm. I recharged the battery and have gotten another two whole days worth of usage. I don't know if it's because the phone was manufactured fairly recently and has the cl14 update or just luck but I'm pretty happy with it.
I have the wifi turned off but left the blue tooth on and have my e-mail set to manual instead of automatic. I hope this helps other moment users. Good Luck.
Since I received the phone in the evening from the sprint website I was able to charge it all night and first use it the next morning. I decided to do the charge and discharge procedure right away. On my initial charge I already got two whole days of usage with moderate use. I don't talk to much but I do play on the web and with other applications quite a bit. The battery finally died on the second day at about 10:30 pm. I recharged the battery and have gotten another two whole days worth of usage. I don't know if it's because the phone was manufactured fairly recently and has the cl14 update or just luck but I'm pretty happy with it.
I have the wifi turned off but left the blue tooth on and have my e-mail set to manual instead of automatic. I hope this helps other moment users. Good Luck.
Which is better for the battery; run down completely before recharging or to recharge at 40%,30%,15%, etc. to keep at 100% asd much as possible??
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