Law2138
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There is no difference in quality from bluetooth to the 3.5 mm jack.
Bruh, really?
There is no difference in quality from bluetooth to the 3.5 mm jack.
Amazing... I dont know what I'm talking about, but your streaming music from less than fully capable sites. Fact is if you're streaming music from the sites you mention you start out at a disadvantage compared to streaming lossless files from Tidal or listening to lossless files stored on your device or other storage medium.
Bruh, really?
Bruh, what cheap o bluetooth ear buds or devices are you using? My JayBird X2 ear buds sound amazing over bluetooth. So does my ZVOX 670 Soundbase speaker system for my 75 inch TV. You can connect it to your phone via bluetooth. The same applies to the equipment in both of my rides. Just because you buy cheap bluetooth ear buds doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. I have to take a hearing test as a pilot every year and I ace it. There is no difference if you have a great amp and speakers.
All of my music is downloaded to my phone. I don't stream any of my music from any services.
Uh...these.Bruh, what cheap o bluetooth ear buds or devices are you using? My JayBird X2 ear buds sound amazing over bluetooth. So does my ZVOX 670 Soundbase speaker system for my 75 inch TV. You can connect it to your phone via bluetooth. The same applies to the equipment in both of my rides. Just because you buy cheap bluetooth ear buds doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. I have to take a hearing test as a pilot every year and I ace it. There is no difference if you have a great amp and speakers.
Bluetooth is incapable of transferring a file higher than 24-bit 48Khz. And that's if you have a matched set of aptX HD equipment. Standard aptX equipment can only transfer 16-bit 44.1Khz quality. And either way it's compressed.
Jaybird X2 earphones don't support aptX. They use the default SBC codec, which can perform really well with a mono signal under 4Khz. Then it starts to become a trainwreck, especially in the latency department.
Tl;dr — it's mathematically impossible for Bluetooth to transfer files at high quality because of the limits of the audio codecs and compression. If you're using Jaybird earbuds, you get exactly the same Bluetooth quality as the Nexus 5x and 6P had, which drew complaints from almost everyone.
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Thanks Jerry for presenting the facts in a clear, concise manor.
Bluetooth is incapable of transferring a file higher than 24-bit 48Khz. And that's if you have a matched set of aptX HD equipment. Standard aptX equipment can only transfer 16-bit 44.1Khz quality. And either way it's compressed.
Jaybird X2 earphones don't support aptX. They use the default SBC codec, which can perform really well with a mono signal under 4Khz. Then it starts to become a trainwreck, especially in the latency department.
Tl;dr — it's mathematically impossible for Bluetooth to transfer files at high quality because of the limits of the audio codecs and compression. If you're using Jaybird earbuds, you get exactly the same Bluetooth quality as the Nexus 5x and 6P had, which drew complaints from almost everyone.
But can this Quality be achieved via the USB-C port? If so, how?That doesn't mean the music doesn't sound really good to the listener tho.
A lot of these differences are inaudible to all humans, and even more aren't audible to everyone. If your ear does not hear a certain frequency, it doesn't matter how it sounds. If what you hear all sounds good, it's good.
Yes, phone can support it and push digital signal to a high quality DAC in the headphones (assuming C) or one in the C to 3.5 mm adapter.But can this Quality be achieved via the USB-C port? If so, how?
Any suggestions of a C to 3.5mm adapter that has a good quality DAC? And that's not bulky?Yes, phone can support it and push digital signal to a high quality DAC in the headphones (assuming C) or one in the C to 3.5 mm adapter.
I don't have a suggestion until we see reviews of the one that comes with the pixels.Any suggestions of a C to 3.5mm adapter that has a good quality DAC? And that's not bulky?
Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Red plus a short USB-C male to USB-A female cable.Any suggestions of a C to 3.5mm adapter that has a good quality DAC? And that's not bulky?
Afaik the pixel 2 DAC is 32 bit w aqstic codec, but I'm not very knowledgeable about such things.Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Red plus a short USB-C male to USB-A female cable.
But, listen to your Pixel 2 / 2 XL first before buying anything. You might like the stock setup.
Thanks, JerryBluetooth is incapable of transferring a file higher than 24-bit 48Khz. And that's if you have a matched set of aptX HD equipment. Standard aptX equipment can only transfer 16-bit 44.1Khz quality. And either way it's compressed.
Jaybird X2 earphones don't support aptX. They use the default SBC codec, which can perform really well with a mono signal under 4Khz. Then it starts to become a trainwreck, especially in the latency department.
Tl;dr — it's mathematically impossible for Bluetooth to transfer files at high quality because of the limits of the audio codecs and compression. If you're using Jaybird earbuds, you get exactly the same Bluetooth quality as the Nexus 5x and 6P had, which drew complaints from almost everyone.
That's likely the DAC built into the 835 SoC. It's honestly not a bad DAC, really, and sounds surprisingly good with the right EQ. It just lacks amplification, especially for headphones that are harder to drive.Afaik the pixel 2 DAC is 32 bit w aqstic codec, but I'm not very knowledgeable about such things.
Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Red plus a short USB-C male to USB-A female cable.
But, listen to your Pixel 2 / 2 XL first before buying anything. You might like the stock setup.
Hmm. Not sure if that qualifies as "not bulky" . It looks like a USB stick size it seems. I'd want something thinner than that ..