'The Galaxy S5 has the best smartphone display ever'

[Kevin OQuinn]

Let me tell you this :
Ever heard Nokia's sunlight visibility options ? That's exactly what I am speaking about wider color gamut and even its normal thing that screen looses gamut under ambient light and 100% of LCD gamut fall down to give washed out display while AMOLED + >100% gamut mode can compensate the lost gamut and can give you near to 100%.

Basically LCD+indoors = Good
LCD+outdoors = color gamut falls resulting in poor colors

AMOLED + indoors = Movie mode
AMOLED + outdoors = saturation mode
Basically , AMOLED has advantage of these things when considering real life conditions.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=167679

Just to add... Never had a problem viewing the M7, N5, or now the M8 outdoors. Ever.

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[msavic6]

http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=167679

Just to add... Never had a problem viewing the M7, N5, or now the M8 outdoors. Ever.

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Well those devices rely on sheer brightness to get around the sunlight legibility issues. Nothing wrong with that approach but there are other ways of dealing with said issue.

Regardless of that, I see you now have the M8 so are you still considering the S5?

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[Kevin OQuinn]

Well those devices rely on sheer brightness to get around the sunlight legibility issues. Nothing wrong with that approach but there are other ways of dealing with said issue.

Regardless of that, I see you now have the M8 so are you still considering the S5?

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Ultimately brightness is the solution.

I might run with both. Not sure yet. I'm liking the M8 though, so it's not going back.

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[Sanjay Chandra]

http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=167679

Just to add... Never had a problem viewing the M7, N5, or now the M8 outdoors. Ever.

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Its not matter of visibility but color accuracy.

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[Fr0gburp3r]

Its not matter of visibility but color accuracy.

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What's the point of color accuracy if it can't be seen in sunlight? Both is a necessity for a good display.

 

[Jdroids]

According to the latest report, GS5 screen is no slouch on outdoor brightness either. It can go above 600 nits under bright outdoor which is right up there with the best LCD brightness. It's the best brightness achieved on any AMOLED. On top of this it has the lowest screen reflection, so it should be very good on outdoor visibility.

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

What's the point of color accuracy if it can't be seen in sunlight? Both is a necessity for a good display.

600+ nits brightness can't be seen ?

 

[Fr0gburp3r]

600+ nits brightness can't be seen ?

Have you made a real life comparison with the devices or are you just repeating what you've read on the internet? I'll make a fair comparison when I get my hands on one. I'm hoping Samsung has improved their AMOLED technology without affecting battery life.

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

Have you made a real life comparison with the devices or are you just repeating what you've read on the internet? I'll make a fair comparison when I get my hands on one. I'm hoping Samsung has improved their AMOLED technology without affecting battery life.

I have seen Note III which has very good brightness

edit : According to displaymate , GS5's AMOLED is more efficient than HTC One , XZ displays and also GS4's AMOLED display
(For web browsing , LCDs have advantage always because of whites)

 

[Love Divine]

600+ nits brightness can't be seen ?

These same claims of "great brightness in sunlight" were made with the S4, and were straight-out BS. It was only theoretically possible with Auto-brightness (which was terrible on the S4 - choppy and not nearly aggressive enough). The screen was very difficult to see in the sun. You're literally regurgitating the same points from DisplayMate, many of which weren't true with the S4 (color accuracy and brightness to name two).

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

These same claims of "great brightness in sunlight" were made with the S4, and were straight-out BS. It was only theoretically possible with Auto-brightness (which was terrible on the S4 - choppy and not nearly aggressive enough). The screen was very difficult to see in the sun. You're literally regurgitating the same points from DisplayMate, many of which weren't true with the S4 (color accuracy and brightness to name two).

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Can you cite me proof for this GS4 great brightness ?

GS4 never had brightness more than competing LCDs and it was never mentioned in any site , Even xda had a thread of throttling brightness on manual mode but never reported its so bright.
Pocket Now said "bright display" (unlike Note III review where they mentioned "It makes use of the new PenTile “diamond” pixel arrangement and it’s capable of kicking out up to 660 nits of brightness outdoors, making it usable in almost any lighting condition")

Even my friend who had Note II was surprised at Note III display brightness when we both saw it in person.He even used Note III for a week after getting impressed by it (exchanged his N2)

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

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Can you cite me proof for this GS4 great brightness ?

GS4 never had brightness more than competing LCDs and it was never mentioned in any site , Even xda had a thread of throttling brightness on manual mode but never reported its so bright.
Pocket Now said "bright display" (unlike Note III review where they mentioned "It makes use of the new PenTile “diamond” pixel arrangement and it’s capable of kicking out up to 660 nits of brightness outdoors, making it usable in almost any lighting condition")

Even my friend who had Note II was surprised at Note III display brightness when we both saw it in person.He even used Note III for a week after getting impressed by it (exchanged his N2)

So you are just reciting information you've heard/read instead of having actual experience with these devices. Got it. Now it makes sense.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

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Can you cite me proof for this GS4 great brightness ?

GS4 never had brightness more than competing LCDs and it was never mentioned in any site , Even xda had a thread of throttling brightness on manual mode but never reported its so bright.
Pocket Now said "bright display" (unlike Note III review where they mentioned "It makes use of the new PenTile “diamond” pixel arrangement and it’s capable of kicking out up to 660 nits of brightness outdoors, making it usable in almost any lighting condition")

Even my friend who had Note II was surprised at Note III display brightness when we both saw it in person.He even used Note III for a week after getting impressed by it (exchanged his N2)

Smartphones are never used in the dark. In fact, they are often used in very bright ambient lighting, which can significantly degrade and wash out their image and picture quality. The Galaxy S4 performs very well in high ambient lighting in spite of its typically lower screen brightness because it has one of the smallest screen Reflectance values of any display we have ever tested, and its more saturated colors can help cut through the reflected light glare. When Automatic Brightness is turned on, the screen brightness increases considerably at high levels of ambient lighting as mentioned above. The Galaxy S4 is then comparable or brighter than most LCD Smartphones, but still 15 percent less than the much smaller iPhone 5, which is the brightest Smartphone we have tested.



^^^^^ from DisplayMate. Also notice the first sentence. A very definitive statement that is also false.

Source: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

So you are just reciting information you've heard/read instead of having actual experience with these devices. Got it. Now it makes sense.

Learn to read again , We both saw the device in person and also compared all three (S4 , Note II and Note III)
He used the device for a week as well.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Learn to read again , We both saw the device in person and also compared all three (S4 , Note II and Note III)
He used the device for a week as well.

I can go use a device for five minutes in the store, but that doesn't give me "experience" with it.

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[Sanjay Chandra]

Smartphones are never used in the dark. In fact, they are often used in very bright ambient lighting, which can significantly degrade and wash out their image and picture quality. The Galaxy S4 performs very well in high ambient lighting in spite of its typically lower screen brightness because it has one of the smallest screen Reflectance values of any display we have ever tested, and its more saturated colors can help cut through the reflected light glare. When Automatic Brightness is turned on, the screen brightness increases considerably at high levels of ambient lighting as mentioned above. The Galaxy S4 is then comparable or brighter than most LCD Smartphones, but still 15 percent less than the much smaller iPhone 5, which is the brightest Smartphone we have tested.



^^^^^ from DisplayMate. Also notice the first sentence. A very definitive statement that is also false.

Source: Galaxy S4 Display Technology Shoot-Out

Notice last sentence ? Its brightness is 15% less than iPhone 5.
(iPhone 5 is brightest of all displays back at that time)
edit: Which is almost same as 5s

It was reviewed before HTC One was reviewed : (see this from HTC One shoot-out)

The two most significant differences are: OLEDs provide perfect blacks but LCDs are currently significantly brighter...However, the Galaxy S4 has a much lower Screen Reflectance (4.4 versus 5.6 to 6.5 percent), and as a result, a somewhat higher Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light (65 to 108 versus 65 to 88)....HTC has significantly degraded display performance by introducing unnecessary image and color processing in a poorly implemented attempt at making the display stand out. The result is distorted and over saturated colors and contrast. And unlike Sony, HTC doesn’t provide an option to turn this processing off, which is a shame. Hopefully that will be an option in a future software upgrade. My suggestion for HTC, forget the display image processing tricks, which never work, and follow Apple and Huawei with solid and straightforward accurate display calibration…

Do you really want to compare Galaxy S4 to older ones like pre-HTC One devices or devices like HTC One ?

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Notice last sentence ? Its brightness is 15% less than iPhone 5.
(iPhone 5 is brightest of all displays back at that time)

It was reviewed before HTC One was reviewed : (see this from HTC One shoot-out)



Do you really want to compare Galaxy S4 to older ones like pre-HTC One devices or devices like HTC One ?

You asked for proof of its brightness and I provided some. From displaymate. Nobody said it was the brightest display ever. It matched or did better than quite a few LCD displays in terms of brightness except for all but the best LCD's.

Did you notice the rest of what I said and quoted from the article, since you want to point out specific sentences that might happen to support your argument?

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[Sanjay Chandra]

I can go use a device for five minutes in the store, but that doesn't give me "experience" with it.

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It was not 5 minutes and not in a store but with my friend's friend.

We compared 4.3 update (N2 and S4 didn't have that update back then and Note II was still in 4.1.2 because Sammy skipped 4.2.x for Note 2)) , We checked out stylus differences of N2 and N3, software changes and screen quality , features/build quality etc.
We did spend significant time with it while comparing and a week later after my friend returned back to Note II , he was saying how awesome Note III display was under sunlight and said GS4/N2 is not as good.

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

double post

bug wtf ?

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

You asked for proof of its brightness and I provided some. From displaymate. Nobody said it was the brightest display ever. It matched or did better than quite a few LCD displays in terms of brightness except for all but the best LCD's.

Did you notice the rest of what I said and quoted from the article, since you want to point out specific sentences that might happen to support your argument?

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I should have been clear , When I said competing LCDs , I meant HTC One , Nexus 5 etc. because that would be more fair comparison.