The Notch... it's Big... it's Black... it's Bold... it's Beautiful

I would assume that you should be able to hide it so it would look similar to how the 2XL looks now. I would never do that though because because by pushing the notifications up buys you more screen even if it's only a small amount.

You have an excellent point. I'd rather keep the notch and scooch up my notifications a bit.
 
Regardless of the "looks" of a notch, it does serve a purpose and one that consumers seem to want. It may even serve more than one purpose. But if your choices are the Pixel 2 XL front design and the Pixel 3 XL design, the 3 XL seems to be better because it IS the 2 XL, merely improved to allow for more usable screen real estate.
 
Difference is the notch is always on the screen, always there every time you look at the screen, always intrusive. That's the one thing you look at every time you pull out your phone. So a screen with a notch that big to me is worse than the finger grooves or the camera design of the Hydrogen One.

The finger grooves are always there as well, and because of that you probably won't be able to cover it with a case. I didn't say anything about the camera design, I was talking about the back of the phone. Honestly it looks like it was built by a hobbyist.
 
Hating the notch and thinking it's stupid are different things. Hate means I'm emotionally invested in it which would drive me away from it even if there would be no valid reason.

Thinking it's stupid is a perfectly valid reason though. There simply is no valid reason for having a notch. It decreases the area where you could show notifications and decreases the number of available sensors you could put there, or the size of the speakers. Plus you have to make software fixes for problems created by having it in the first place.

Well... I HATE the notch because it's STUPID. How's that fit with your philosophy? 😃
 
Well... I HATE the notch because it's STUPID. How's that fit with your philosophy? ������

Hating it is definitely unreasonable. Thinking "it's stupid" is also somewhat unreasonable, but it could be perhaps justified, depending on the arguments being made. If the argument "I don't understand it and I don't like it" then that's the most obvious example of unreasonable argument that we could find. If it's, "I spoke with the engineers and learned how and why this was developed, yet I disagree that this is the best course of action when we could have instead done, ____________"... then that's perhaps a more reasonable argument. But the only way to be able to make a reasonable argument in the first place, against an existing claim, is to be able to demonstrate an accurate comprehension of the claim being made.

More succinctly, if you do not understand the rationale behind an argument, then you cannot defend your counter argument on the basis that the rationale is incorrect, or invalid or unsound, etc.

The "no valid reason" in the post you quoted is false. The main reason reason is to add usable screen real estate without increasing the size of the device. That's obviously a valid reason, based on the fact that it is a reason and it is a reason grounded in reality, and it's a method that is accomplishing what it is intended to do in every phone that has a notch.

Is it the best way of doing that? ¯\_(o_o)_/¯ That's the part where a debate could be had.
 
Since using Notch phones ... I have no real complaints about a notch.
 
Since using Notch phones ... I have no real complaints about a notch.

I agree also , I mean what else can they do with the screen not many options , luckily we don't have triangle devices lol for the sake of major changes .
 
What they could do to eliminate the notch look is blacken the area around the notch while keeping the notifications there. Kind of like the second screen on the LG V20
 
I would assume that you should be able to hide it so it would look similar to how the 2XL looks now. I would never do that though because because by pushing the notifications up buys you more screen even if it's only a small amount.
No, according to the leakers who have the phone, there's no way to hide the notch.

Maybe they'll change with the final release, but that batch that got sold on the back market has no option to hide the notch.
 
No, according to the leakers who have the phone, there's no way to hide the notch.

Maybe they'll change with the final release, but that batch that got sold on the back market has no option to hide the notch.

Do you have a source for that? All of the articles I have read failed to mention that feature one way or the other.
 
No, according to the leakers who have the phone, there's no way to hide the notch.

Maybe they'll change with the final release, but that batch that got sold on the back market has no option to hide the notch.

Even if they don't have it now, hiding the notch isn't a hardware issue, so it could be done in a future patch, especially is public outcry is bad enough. Doesn't matter to me regardless, I'm sticking with the smaller model as I always have. I tried the 6p, but it wasn't a great device for one handed use, so that's always nixed the XLodel for me. What I fear is that the smaller model's display size is creeping higher and that may affect one handed use, even if they keep the same physical footprint. I don't get it, the whole point of the smaller model was for people who don't want a larger phone. If they keep this up the regular model will be the size of the older XL and the XL will be ridiculously large.
 
How the heck can a app or anything hide that notch.
Give me a break !

Google's Bread ain't Dun sticking a big notch on a phone.
 
How the heck can a app or anything hide that notch.
Give me a break !

Google's Bread ain't Dun sticking a big notch on a phone.

First, OnePlus has already used software to hide a notch on a phone months ago. But here's an article on the LG V40, which also has a notch, and uses software to hide it. Scroll down the the picture of the face of the V40 and zoom into the area where the notch is. While you can still see the notch, it makes it much less apparent. Essentially all they're doing is turning off the pixels on either side of the notch. Since it's an OLED display, turning off those pixels makes it appear black and in effect it's camouflaging the notch.

https://www.droid-life.com/2018/08/22/lg-v40-renders/
 

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