The Note 7 Specs Detailed

[iGalione]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

exactly... but many consumers just follow the hype, and the marketing for the next big thing, having owned each and every note released (including the edge) the subtle upgrades and downgrades, are usually warranted, all but the removable battery, and microsd card.

I get by fine with mine, and if i am low, adaptive fast charge works wonders, as well as the AFC external battery that samsung has, as well as countless other third party suppliers. Just wish i had more memory as 64GB doesn't cut it for my uses (but I need to have better disk space management on my end.. [that could be why i have almost 24TB of data at home with who knows what on there because they aren't all consolidated] lol)

 

[The Misfit is Here]

@Rumblee1 As far as I know the 830 won't be out until 2017 so no phone this year will have it.

 

[Maknora]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

3600 is a big upgrade. those complainers wouldn't be satisfied even if it was 5000mah. I bet you'd still find a way to not make a last a day.

Plus the mass doesn't want a heavier phone. the exact reason why Iphone's are getting lighter.

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[TJA3500]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

The battery in my Note 5 is plenty. After a 12 hour day at work, I still have plenty left.
Whatever size they put in the Note 7 will be fine for my usage. I've never switched a battery out of any phone I've owned that had a removable back.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

I'm so sick of the battery life obsession. I mean serious real world problems here. Battery life is better than ever and it's still not good enough. I get a full day out of my S7Edge, and then I plop it in the wireless charger at night, that's it, it's not complicated . I still remember when we were lucky to get 2 solid hours. These kids today don't know real struggle lol

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[Maknora]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

I'm so sick of the battery life obsession. I mean serious real world problems here. Battery life is better than ever and it's still not good enough. I get a full day out of my S7Edge, and then I plop it in the wireless charger at night, end of story. I still remember when we were lucky to get 2 solid hours. These kids today don't know real struggle lol

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I'm telling you, they'll complain even with a 6000 mah battery

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[Inders99]

I'm so sick of the battery life obsession. I mean serious real world problems here. Battery life is better than ever and it's still not good enough. I get a full day out of my S7Edge, and then I plop it in the wireless charger at night, that's it, it's not complicated . I still remember when we were lucky to get 2 solid hours.

If I had to guess I run out of juice once every ten days and that's before the end of the working day, not night time. I just swap out and I continue on. I don't waste time with games, Facebook, IG or any other social media, just run my business. Those who complain about lack of swappable batteries do have valid issues sometimes. Do some run out because they waste their day with their heads buried in these things....yup, but some just don't have access for remote charging. Travelers also face the same issues.

It does become an issue because no power = no phone, and for me it means no business so I understand the concerns.

 

[Coraya]

I'm so sick of the battery life obsession. I mean serious real world problems here. Battery life is better than ever and it's still not good enough. I get a full day out of my S7Edge, and then I plop it in the wireless charger at night, that's it, it's not complicated . I still remember when we were lucky to get 2 solid hours. These kids today don't know real struggle lol

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Battery size isn't everything. These devices need to be optimized correctly to utilize all that power and make it last a long time. We're not all in similar situations. I work in an office now and charging my phone is easy but beforehand charging my phone was very difficult so I needed to carry an extra battery on me. I used my phone a lot for work so throughout the day the battery would drain. Not everyone is in the same position as you are. Some of us do need the maximum size possible with the best utilization possible. Android sucks on a lot of juice but it's also the most functional OS out there which is why so many of us in business use them.

I had some of the first pocketable cell phones. I know how bad the battery life was, but continuing to improve is how things move forward.

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[Inders99]

These devices need to be optimized correctly to utilize all that power and make it last a long time.

This is a great point that I didn't touch on. Android can be quite fractured and as a result things run in the background draining the battery. I've worked like crazy to recover my G4 from the lousy MM roll-out and now I've given up. After the update my stellar battery life was consistent, 30-35% at bed most days. Now I run out of juice whereas it was rare before.

I also don't have the ability (nor the desire to carry peripherals) to change most days. Still not getting the push-back on better battery management and in some cases replaceable batteries. Android has a big role in this battery management and to date they've only done a fair job IMO with the app behavior.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

This is a great point that I didn't touch on. Android can be quite fractured and as a result things run in the background draining the battery. I've worked like crazy to recover my G4 from the lousy MM roll-out and now I've given up. After the update my stellar battery life was consistent, 30-35% at bed most days. Now I run out of juice whereas it was rare before.

I also don't have the ability (nor the desire to carry peripherals) to change most days. Still not getting the push-back on better battery management and in some cases replaceable batteries. Android has a big role in this battery management and to date they've only done a fair job IMO with the app behavior.

This brings up another point.

I still have an LG G3 that now belongs to my dad. Every day, I would see a notification from the system itself that tells me Facebook is draining power stealthily in the background, and recommends that I close it. However, after closing it, it would pop back up later. Power drain is around 3-6% per hour.

The issue with stuffing a large battery is that it gives software and app developers less incentive to optimize their software as there is too much "free-play" for them, so they'll just end up using the extra power as a safety net and might end up not making all the necessary adjustments to their piece of software to save power, ending up wasting all that extra power.

For the Note 7, Samsung seems to be going towards the route of software optimization, while also putting a relatively large 3600mAh battery in the phone. It's not the big 4000mAh unit we were hoping, but like I said, when you have a large battery, you also want the software to be sipping as much power as it could. Unfortunately, progress is rather slow right now, although Doze is a good first step.

 

[Inders99]

The issue with stuffing a large battery is that it gives software and app developers less incentive to optimize their software as there is too much "free-play" for them, so they'll just end up using the extra power as a safety net and might end up not making all the necessary adjustments to their piece of software to save power, ending up wasting all that extra power.

Agree, app management/implementation is where Google/Android does a poor job.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Agree, app management/implementation is where Google/Android does a poor job.

That's where I feel iOS has the edge. Because it is closed-source and also a tightly-packed ecosystem, there's not many devices that Apple has to optimize for, and also means that the OS can better individually manage idle resources in order to conserve power.

There's a lot Google has to do with Android in order to conserve power. Doze is a good step, but some apps like Facebook and Snapchat need to have better-managed wakelocks so they don't keep the device awake all the time when the screen is off.

 

[kenrico]

Wow , was just peeking in on the new Nexus speculated specifications ..and it seems that SAMMY is still two steps ahead of everybody.

S7 S7E and N7 all promise what the others have (Q820+ lotsa RAM 32GB+ better than QHD) and then also supply SD Card slot , dust & water resistance Wireless Charging and now a retina scanner .

I still have a S5 and will miss some neat things like IR blaster FM radio removable batt USB 3.0 and UNLOCKED bootloader when I upgrade ...but it is SO apparant that it has taken 2 years for every body else to come out with a competing phone to the S5 let alone the S7 ..and ALL the new Nexus HTC and upcoming HTC Nexus are not even trying to implement a card slot or wireless charging ...

i bought the S5 because of the hype..1st week ..had to have the fingerprint scanner and heart rate monitor .. but it has been updated to Lollipop & Marshmellow , had a FHD screen a great camera .. but it is so disappointing to see that all the other non SAMMY handsets are just qHD newer Qchip and better camera ...the V10 being the breakout with its better audio, wireless charging available and still removable batt and card slot ..see a trend?

So the NOTE 7 will drop and distinquish itself from..the competition ...again.. and I will have to decide if I want my trade my bootloader freedom in to continue my stellar, unmatched SAMMY experience (epic s3 s5) or go for the pure experiece of a 6P or midrange MXPE , but its pretty apparent that all other flagships are featured like a 6p with a new chip

Kenny

 

[Aquila]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

It does seem like lg is being slow on the uptake.

 

[The SPCS Guy]

Better have a 4000 mAh. 3600 is a tiny step up from the current 3220. Bleh
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[stmax]

Re: The Note 7 Detailed

It does seem like lg is being slow on the uptake.

I have noticed several LG owners (myself included) on the Note 7 forums. For me it was the fact that I had to return my G4 to repair the bootloop issue and that the G5 didn't really turn my head.

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[Rukbat]

Re: Battery Update

Samsung went with design over features since they got bashed review after review for the "plastic feel".

They got bashed for leakage in a "waterproof phone", the battery, the screen - about everything non-Google.

They're just doing what the majority was vocal about.

Which is the problem. They're never going to find a consensus, so design a good phone, then let people "bash" it. "It doesn't have enough case colors?" Here's a painting kit. But if Nextel could make a breakproof, waterproof phone in 2004, Samsung can make one now.

They're not going to make a "complaintless" phone, about the only "standards" will be engineering standards, so let's make some. So far it's been "pull one from column A and one from column B and it doesn't matter which is which".

Personally I don't mind a pack. Is removable bad? No I enjoyed it when I had it but with quick charge on a pack and a car charger I never ran into an issue. Maybe if you were out and about a ton I could see but otherwise.. I don't get it.

The battery lasts a fixed number of discharge cycles. After that you replace it. (So far, there's no answer to that unless you make the battery larger or heavier.) $60 and a 2 week trip to Texas or $15 and a 5 minute trip to my desk? I know which I'd prefer.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Battery Update

Which is the problem. They're never going to find a consensus, so design a good phone, then let people "bash" it. "It doesn't have enough case colors?" Here's a painting kit. But if Nextel could make a breakproof, waterproof phone in 2004, Samsung can make one now.

Kind of hard to compare a flip phone versus a phone that is basically a giant screen. That is comparing apples to rocks. ^_^. Also companies listen to the majority of their customers .. More wanted other things so they went that route. They will ALWAYS alienate someone by changing a feature or design. You can't please all.

The battery lasts a fixed number of discharge cycles. After that you replace it. (So far, there's no answer to that unless you make the battery larger or heavier.) $60 and a 2 week trip to Texas or $15 and a 5 minute trip to my desk? I know which I'd prefer.

And I agreed that I could see the use for some didn't I? Therefore as I said previously .. It isn't for you. There are other choices that can fit your needs. Buying a phone that you don't like the features of wouldn't make much sense.

 

[Aquila]

It can't rain all the time.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

Agreed. Samsung addressed issues that their customers wanted, and still managed to design the most highly praised phone of the year in the S7 that is selling really well and has returned them to the top. I don't see that as a problem.

And yes, they're always going to disappoint someone, but they can't sustain themselves by releasing the same phone every year just to please phone nerds ( and I mean that in the best sense).

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