The phone is ready, it's just.....

[akhi216]

I'm not sure how it is for you guys. But, I know that when I go into the Verizon stores to make my purchases, there are at least a few times in my conversations with the rep that is working with me where they will make one of those comments, that goes something like, really? Or, I didn't know that.

Just my not so humble opinion, Verizon reps make money off of the phones they sell. All they know about the phones they are selling is what VZW tells them. So unless the rep is a big Android fan and is active in boards like these, they are really not going to be as informed as some of their customers are.

This. I'll say that the majority of people who post here might not be tech-savvy, but they no more than the reps. I can't count on my fingers how many times I had to correct VZW reps on their bull****.



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[edoublediz]

Alright, seriously, how can there be a delay in something that has never had an official release date announced?

i cannot stand this statement! i dont know how many more times i can hear it without losing my mind!

we all know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST everyone here really wants this phone! we are just wanting some info from the carrier. we do not feel the release is being handled properly. we have heard from VERY CREDIBLE people that it was coming Nov 3rd, then the 10th, etc. etc. these dates werent from a 13 yr old boy hiding behind a clever forum username, they were from industry insiders and former higher ranking VZW employees and current google employees directly in the Android department.

IT has been delayed! we know it has not technically been delayed, but it has been delayed!

 

[Premium1]

i cannot stand this statement! i dont know how many more times i can hear it without losing my mind!

we all know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST everyone here really wants this phone! we are just wanting some info from the carrier. we do not feel the release is being handled properly. we have heard from VERY CREDIBLE people that it was coming Nov 3rd, then the 10th, etc. etc. these dates werent from a 13 yr old boy hiding behind a clever forum username, they were from industry insiders and former higher ranking VZW employees and current google employees directly in the Android department.

IT has been delayed! we know it has not technically been delayed, but it has been delayed!

If it wasn't ready they would not have announced it over a month ago. Sorry for everyone who says it was never announced it can't be delayed. If you announce something it should be available to buy within a week tops. Why can apple do this yet noone else can? it isn't like verizon wasn't testing this since summerish.

 

[TvTechGuru]

i cannot stand this statement! i dont know how many more times i can hear it without losing my mind!

we all know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST everyone here really wants this phone! we are just wanting some info from the carrier. we do not feel the release is being handled properly. we have heard from VERY CREDIBLE people that it was coming Nov 3rd, then the 10th, etc. etc. these dates werent from a 13 yr old boy hiding behind a clever forum username, they were from industry insiders and former higher ranking VZW employees and current google employees directly in the Android department.

IT has been delayed! we know it has not technically been delayed, but it has been delayed!

Sorry but I call B.S. on these "Sources". NO one, not even you, has given us proof of these "credible" people, or insiders, or former high ranking VZW employees. There's more proof the dates were manufactured from people on these forums to create all the buzz which in turn creates all of the threads like this one that are 10 pages long in 2 days. So show me the proof of you're so called insiders!!!!!

 

[davey11]

Let us pray

 

[Premium1]

Sorry but I call B.S. on these "Sources". NO one, not even you, has given us proof of these "credible" people, or insiders, or former high ranking VZW employees. There's more proof the dates were manufactured from people on these forums to create all the buzz which in turn creates all of the threads like this one that are 10 pages long in 2 days. So show me the proof of you're so called insiders!!!!!

I agree with you on this. There was no proof other than everyone saying that the mod's had trusted sources who are in the know. Most likely all these things were made to build more hype while the phone is waiting to be launched. Most of the documents that are supposedly leaked, look like something some teenager created in his basement to drum up hype.

 

[Mr. Poppalopolis]

Verizon did announce this, but they never said it would be out by the 21st. I'm pretty sure they said by the end of the year, which gives them plenty of time to "delay" the release without breaking their promised date. Therefore I am not angry at Verizon. They told me when I would have the phone, and if it's delayed into 2012 then I'll be mad.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

i cannot stand this statement! i dont know how many more times i can hear it without losing my mind!

we all know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST everyone here really wants this phone! we are just wanting some info from the carrier. we do not feel the release is being handled properly. we have heard from VERY CREDIBLE people that it was coming Nov 3rd, then the 10th, etc. etc. these dates werent from a 13 yr old boy hiding behind a clever forum username, they were from industry insiders and former higher ranking VZW employees and current google employees directly in the Android department.

IT has been delayed! we know it has not technically been delayed, but it has been delayed!

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but clearly the people you consider to be very reliable, are not all that reliable at this point.

Technically and in reality the phone hasn't been delayed. You can play whatever word games you'd like, but the simple fact of the matter is, the phone is not delayed. Because some source you consider to be reliable makes a claim of a release date, that is not followed through on, does not = delay.

 

[Deltaechoe]

Sorry but I call B.S. on these "Sources". NO one, not even you, has given us proof of these "credible" people, or insiders, or former high ranking VZW employees. There's more proof the dates were manufactured from people on these forums to create all the buzz which in turn creates all of the threads like this one that are 10 pages long in 2 days. So show me the proof of you're so called insiders!!!!!

How about Matias Duarte? Pretty much an Android insider considering he lead the team that designed ics.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Verizon did announce this, but they never said it would be out by the 21st. I'm pretty sure they said by the end of the year, which gives them plenty of time to "delay" the release without breaking their promised date. Therefore I am not angry at Verizon. They told me when I would have the phone, and if it's delayed into 2012 then I'll be mad.

Exactly! If the phone isn't released by December 31, 2011, then we can factually state the phone has been delayed.

On a side note, what is the vetting process used to classify some mysterious source as reliable?

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

How about Matias Duarte? Pretty much an Android insider considering he lead the team that designed ics.

How exactly does that make them privy to top management information at VZW?

 

[cdmta]

Originally Posted by Deltaechoe
"How about Matias Duarte? Pretty much an Android insider considering he lead the team that designed ics."

Yes, didn't he say November? And this was referring to VZW.
He said this "On the verge" FYI.

 

[edoublediz]

Sorry but I call B.S. on these "Sources". NO one, not even you, has given us proof of these "credible" people, or insiders, or former high ranking VZW employees. There's more proof the dates were manufactured from people on these forums to create all the buzz which in turn creates all of the threads like this one that are 10 pages long in 2 days. So show me the proof of you're so called insiders!!!!!

BMX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He worked for VZW and now works for Google, in the Android department.

 

[edoublediz]

I agree with you on this. There was no proof other than everyone saying that the mod's had trusted sources who are in the know. Most likely all these things were made to build more hype while the phone is waiting to be launched. Most of the documents that are supposedly leaked, look like something some teenager created in his basement to drum up hype.

Premium, i know you have been a staple around here for a while. How quickly we forget!!! BMX is not a teenager cooking up rumors in his basement!!!!

 

[edoublediz]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but clearly the people you consider to be very reliable, are not all that reliable at this point.

Technically and in reality the phone hasn't been delayed. You can play whatever word games you'd like, but the simple fact of the matter is, the phone is not delayed. Because some source you consider to be reliable makes a claim of a release date, that is not followed through on, does not = delay.

your logic is funny!!!

just because VZW didnt announce it doesnt mean it wasnt delayed!!!!!! it has been delayed. just because they havnt told you, doesnt mean it hasnt been delayed.

 

[Mr. Poppalopolis]

How about Matias Duarte? Pretty much an Android insider considering he lead the team that designed ics.

Duarte said the phone will be available on VZW in November. Last time I checked, it's still November.

Also this debate is getting pretty heated! I agree that many of the sources are very reliable and have proven to be reliable in the past, including Phil and BMX. Verizon gave us an estimated time frame which was late November/early December, and they haven't gone past that yet. Based on what Phil has told us, there haven't really been any internal dates set yet, so it's hard to even have an internal delay when everything's up in the air. If you don't even have an internal date set, how can the phone be delayed to us? I don't expect anything more than having the phone in the first week or two in December.

 

[potatolover1102]

I know why it will not be coming next week! They do not want to have competition with the release of the red droid incredible 2. I say December now lol

 

[f150fan]

i cannot stand this statement! i dont know how many more times i can hear it without losing my mind!

we all know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST everyone here really wants this phone! we are just wanting some info from the carrier. we do not feel the release is being handled properly. we have heard from VERY CREDIBLE people that it was coming Nov 3rd, then the 10th, etc. etc. these dates werent from a 13 yr old boy hiding behind a clever forum username, they were from industry insiders and former higher ranking VZW employees and current google employees directly in the Android department.

IT has been delayed! we know it has not technically been delayed, but it has been delayed!

There is a difference in a device that has never been given a release date to be delayed and an improperly handled release. I agree that this release has not been handled properly, not at all. I also agree that this phone cannot be technically delayed if there has been no hard release date announced from Big Red. Now that said, they may have wanted to get the phone out sooner than they are because there was an abnormality found that needing fixing, or they are really confused on how and when to market this, or etc. The reasons that we could come up with for this supposed delay are many, but until an announcement is made from Big Red giving a hard release date no one knows when it is actually releasing. I know that it will be here soon and I for one am still pretty pumped about it. I would love for it to be released before Thanksgiving and be able to show my family and even use the camera to capture some great moments during the holiday. If it doesn't release? Oh well. These things happen. I for one will be patient and await its arrival. When it does arrive we will all be grateful and happy to finally see it come. If there are some unforeseen problems that they are working out with the phone that happened to show up at the last minute, I am happy that they are holding it back to fix these before we get in our hands. I for one would like a great user experience out of the box rather than another buggy release, for example, with the Thunderbolt. Just my thoughts. Could get flamed for this though.

 

[humpagardengnome]

Exactly! If the phone isn't released by December 31, 2011, then we can factually state the phone has been delayed.

On a side note, what is the vetting process used to classify some mysterious source as reliable?

I believe it's now known as pi$$ing in the wind.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

BMX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He worked for VZW and now works for Google, in the Android department.

So what? Does he work for VZW right now? Is he top level management or something that would lead him to not only have credible information, but verifiable information? Sorry, but he doesn't work for VZW, nor is he a spokesperson for them. Good job, this forum is chocked full of rumors.