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If sense let me go 5x5 home screen I'd be all over it. Unfortunately, the launchers spoiled me in this regard and now I can't stand the look of 4x4. It's like going from 1280x728 to 800x600 on a desktop for me lol. I'll stick with adw for now, I do however miss the fluidity of sense on this phone.

I feel that Sense is special in this regard. For being the "heaviest" of the skins, it feels the smoothest and packs the most features.
I don't like the space between icons on 4x4 either, but I doubt a fix is in the works until Sense 4.0 or ICS. For the meantime, I can live with it.
 
I feel that Sense is special in this regard. For being the "heaviest" of the skins, it feels the smoothest and packs the most features.
I don't like the space between icons on 4x4 either, but I doubt a fix is in the works until Sense 4.0 or ICS. For the meantime, I can live with it.

If they fix it in ICS, I'll definitely stick with sense, or if someone has a work around.
 
I think Sense will be making a blur/touchwiz like change in Sense 4.0 which will basically leave it mostly icons and widgets. I sincerely hope so because I hate the way HTC changes some basic apps like messages and email. I don't mind the skinning but the changes in functionality have to go.
 
I think Sense will be making a blur/touchwiz like change in Sense 4.0 which will basically leave it mostly icons and widgets. I sincerely hope so because I hate the way HTC changes some basic apps like messages and email. I don't mind the skinning but the changes in functionality have to go.

I wouldn't mind this. I recall seeing a few "trusted source" comments and a few articles about how HTC and possibly Motorola (count out Samsung, their Galaxy SII and Note ICS versions are confirmed to have TouchWiz) are considering toning down skins to a minimum, or dropping them altogether.
I have hope for this, as Matias Duarte explained how the goal of ICS was to add in the functionality that was left out of stock Android, but added in by OEM skins. I'm paraphrasing here, but he said that rather than have the manufacturer's try to fill the gaps left in vanilla Android, they'd only need to try and improve it, because ICS had everything needed plus some.
Yes, this was the goal of other vanilla Android versions. But we're at the point where there's really not much to add, and so skins are becoming more and more irrelevant.
 
I wouldn't mind this. I recall seeing a few "trusted source" comments and a few articles about how HTC and possibly Motorola (count out Samsung, their Galaxy SII and Note ICS versions are confirmed to have TouchWiz) are considering toning down skins to a minimum, or dropping them altogether.
I have hope for this, as Matias Duarte explained how the goal of ICS was to add in the functionality that was left out of stock Android, but added in by OEM skins. I'm paraphrasing here, but he said that rather than have the manufacturer's try to fill the gaps left in vanilla Android, they'd only need to try and improve it, because ICS had everything needed plus some.
Yes, this was the goal of other vanilla Android versions. But we're at the point where there's really not much to add, and so skins are becoming more and more irrelevant.

Blur was always irrelevant. Touchwiz just screwed everything up, and well Sense is probably the only widely positively regarded UI in the Android collective. Hopefully ICS really does unify us all under one umbrella and let's people stop talking fragmentation and start talking about why Android is an all around solution for smartphones. From there, re-visit the value, medium, and premium tier phones and optimize the OS on that given device so you get the best possible experience instead of generic BS like the phones on Cricket running 2.1.
 
What i have noticed about Android and Sense that i'm a little spoiled on (came from webOS)

Being able to seperate my Games from my Apps from my System Tools. Instead I have to have pretty much have one page with all te apps. Is there a way to change that?

I enjoy some of the frilly features of Sense that I envied when i was on webOS things like the large Time and Weather at a glance. the silly animations are enjoyable too

Does Sense or any of the others allow me to make pages and move my apps around?
 
What i have noticed about Android and Sense that i'm a little spoiled on (came from webOS)

Being able to seperate my Games from my Apps from my System Tools. Instead I have to have pretty much have one page with all te apps. Is there a way to change that?

I enjoy some of the frilly features of Sense that I envied when i was on webOS things like the large Time and Weather at a glance. the silly animations are enjoyable too

Does Sense or any of the others allow me to make pages and move my apps around?

For customizations in Sense try these things.
- Personalize button on your home screen
- double tap the home button (allows to add/remove home screens)
- long press an icon/widget on any home screen then drag to a new screen/position
- long press in an empty area on your home screen to enter "edit" mode

For the question about separating games and apps, you should probably check out another launcher like ADW that allows app drawer customization. Sense doesn't offer that, nor does any Android launcher out of the box because Android doesn't differentiate "apps" from "games".
 
Sense doesn't offer that, nor does any Android launcher out of the box because Android doesn't differentiate "apps" from "games".

Which is funny, because when their "App" sale was going on, 70% of it was games.
And when Google touts its app download numbers, it includes games as well, which make up the majority.

And about WebOS. I'd love it if it when open source now that it's almost dead. I loved the card game-type tabs and the app drawer categories. Their marketplace was virtually empty, though.
 
Which is funny, because when their "App" sale was going on, 70% of it was games.
And when Google touts its app download numbers, it includes games as well, which make up the majority.

And about WebOS. I'd love it if it when open source now that it's almost dead. I loved the card game-type tabs and the app drawer categories. Their marketplace was virtually empty, though.

Technically they're all apps. And since WebOS is open source now(or being pushed to open source) maybe we'll see features from there appear in Android 5 ;-)
 
Blur was always irrelevant. Touchwiz just screwed everything up, and well Sense is probably the only widely positively regarded UI in the Android collective.

Have to respectively disagree.. there's alot of ICS pulled from touchwiz which is why I've always guessed Samsung was chosen to make the nexus again. Adding Widgets, the new app drawer almost mirror touchwiz. Sense may look the best to some people but touchwiz by far held alot of inspiration for ICS.
 

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