The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

[MSFTisMIA]

Inadequate carrier support and losing the 3.5 jack is a no go on the U11, otherwise its a heck of a phone.

For me, I'm on T-Mobile, but I buy them carrier unlocked - or else I would have bought a V20 in January when T-Mobile was selling it for $300. I wanted Qi and a dual camera, so that's why I skipped the U11. I use the wireless charging on my devices - V20 I have the spare battery and charge them externally. I didn't mind the no headphone jack but my commute is brutal on headphones so I knew the U11's won't hold up long term for me.

 

[Joshua_Muldoon]

I'm planning on the S8+ (as you know) and I heard it's 3500 mAh battery was pretty good, better than the V20.

 

[Mike Dee]

I'm planning on the S8+ (as you know) and I heard it's 3500 mAh battery was pretty good, better than the V20.

How could it not be better? Simple math really.

 

[Joshua_Muldoon]

How could it not be better? Simple math really.

Good point, I just meant over all battery life, with the size of the screen, the amount of pixels it's powering, Samsung's UI, etc. My Droid Turbo 2's battery life was worse than my V20's, and the V20 has a 3200 mAh battery, and the Droid Turbo 2's battery was 3760 mAh.

 

[JohnMcL7]

If there was as similar rival with either a 5000mah battery (like the Lenovo P2) or replaceable one, I'd be more inclined to go with those but there isn't and the slightly bigger battery on the S8+/Note 8 wouldn't swing me their way. I think it's a tricky one for manufacturers as I would happily take a slightly heavier, chunkier device to get a bigger battery but these days consumer phone choice is clearly heavily influenced by how devices feel and how thin and light they are.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

I don't think that I will buy another LG phone for a while.

Sure they sound good if they have the good Dacs in them and their cameras are top notch but their software leaves a lot to be desired and unless you buy a unlocked one they are filled with a lot of bloat.. I know it can be disabled but still it's still there.

With them moving to being like all the rest of the sealed backed phones, there really isn't any compelling reason to continue buying them.

I have only had one phone that got wet inside it in my entire life and while some folks really need the water resistant type of phone, I don't.. and I have used my phone in torrential downpours too.. I also know that fast charging and great big batteries and phones like my u11 that get 5.5-6 hours of SOT help get through the day, but there is always a nagging feeling that won't go away by not being able to just pop in a fresh battery in a few seconds......

To me I don't like super thin bezeless phones where the screen is exposed on it's sides (curved screens) because you can't really protect them like a perfectly flat screen with metal edges. That is important to me and how I carry my phone at work and everywhere else I go.

The IR blaster is a nice addition, but not critical and the headphone jack really needs to be included, even as good as my HTC u11 is and it's software I still want the capability of having a FM radio inside. The carriers should be forced to have them. Streaming is excellent on my u11, but live radio is excellent on my v20.

I know millions of people are all giddy over Samsung style phones and many here are excited that LG is adapting a similar approach but I fear that in the end they are just cutting off their nose to spite their face going in this direction.

Just my opinion that's all

Mac

LG'S gone up and down in the unlocked game as far as software support go...I suppose if you've got a newer model it's better as the US unlocked G6 is on a he June security patch. Carrier V20's are more up to date than the unlocked model from what I've heard...

 

[Mike Dee]

I don't think that I will buy another LG phone for a while.

Sure they sound good if they have the good Dacs in them and their cameras are top notch but their software leaves a lot to be desired and unless you buy a unlocked one they are filled with a lot of bloat.. I know it can be disabled but still it's still there.

With them moving to being like all the rest of the sealed backed phones, there really isn't any compelling reason to continue buying them.

I have only had one phone that got wet inside it in my entire life and while some folks really need the water resistant type of phone, I don't.. and I have used my phone in torrential downpours too.. I also know that fast charging and great big batteries and phones like my u11 that get 5.5-6 hours of SOT help get through the day, but there is always a nagging feeling that won't go away by not being able to just pop in a fresh battery in a few seconds......

To me I don't like super thin bezeless phones where the screen is exposed on it's sides (curved screens) because you can't really protect them like a perfectly flat screen with metal edges. That is important to me and how I carry my phone at work and everywhere else I go.

The IR blaster is a nice addition, but not critical and the headphone jack really needs to be included, even as good as my HTC u11 is and it's software I still want the capability of having a FM radio inside. The carriers should be forced to have them. Streaming is excellent on my u11, but live radio is excellent on my v20.

I know millions of people are all giddy over Samsung style phones and many here are excited that LG is adapting a similar approach but I fear that in the end they are just cutting off their nose to spite their face going in this direction.

Just my opinion that's all

Mac

I'd rather have some bloat and have all the carrier features supported. Unlocked just don't do it for me.

 

[SchinkenSpicker]

Does it matter if we're buying new phones the minute they hit the shelves? Talking to the Gotta Have "The Latest And Greatest Crowd". And even if your the crowd that gets a new phone every 2 years, if that battery doesn't last that then it pretty much SUCKS.

I think most people buying new phones so often are boasters. They think a phone is something they can pose with, and well, if there isn't enough money for a nice car, at least a pricey smartphone is in most peoples range. Then they end up using Whatsapp and Instagram on their 800$ device, that's it.

I'm not talking about enthusiasts, like most people are on this forum. Of course there are those enthusiasts that are just interested in newest technology, high quality smartphone cameras and so on. So please everbody, don't feel offended by the upper paragraph.

I personally will have used my Lumia 920 for nearly 5 years when I replace it with the V30 or another device this autumn. I'm not playing mobile games and it had a superb camera, so the two main reasons to buy a new phone didn't have relevance for me. The camera was btw the first with OIS and in my opinion it was a revolution of smartphone photography back then. It's still good, even though some more resolution would be nice.

 

[flyingkytez]

I for one am a bit disappointed in hearing that the V30 will most likely be sporting a 3200mAh battery. It being 100mAh smaller than the upcoming Note 8 is in my book a non event, however that does give Samsung bragging rights that they in fact have the bigger battery. The common thought is that the 835 will run more efficiently and fast charging eliminates the need for large batteries, however it seems like we are going backwards these days or at least staying the same when it comes to battery size.

While I don't think its enough to keep me from buying it if everything else about the phone says buy, buy, buy, it certainly puts a dent in the hopes I had for at least 3500mAh.

The other uncertainty or lack of faith I'm seeing is the P-OLED screen. Some are already expressing hesitancy because LG supposedly had issues with that type of screen in the past. I guess time will tell if these or other features make for a decent phone.

Battery size isn't everything. Take the iPhone for example. Gets amazing battery life despite its small capacity. It's all about efficiency. Bigger batteries won't solve the problem. The Snapdragon 835 combined with LG's excellent optimized OS will for sure knock it out the park. The processor is VERY efficient.

 

[LuxuryTouringZone]

If LG stuck to the utilitarian roots with this phone, they could've easily went with 4000 mAh, if they weren't chasing fashion and glamour.

 

[Ryano89]

Battery size isn't everything. Take the iPhone for example. Gets amazing battery life despite its small capacity. It's all about efficiency. Bigger batteries won't solve the problem. The Snapdragon 835 combined with LG's excellent optimized OS will for sure knock it out the park. The processor is VERY efficient.

It will be, when it's brand new! I want the larger battery so that when it starts to lose capacity after a year, I can still get through a day. If you are going to seal the battery in, then you need to increase the size of it in order to give people on an a 18 month or 2 year upgrade cycle, a phone that will still be an all day performer for them.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Battery size isn't everything. Take the iPhone for example. Gets amazing battery life despite its small capacity. It's all about efficiency. Bigger batteries won't solve the problem. The Snapdragon 835 combined with LG's excellent optimized OS will for sure knock it out the park. The processor is VERY efficient.

Hard to fully use the iPhone here as an example as part of their magic for years was hardware - they had the best 720P in the business (but it was still a 720P panel). The newer iPhones while still have good battery life, don't have the awesome battery life as before.

I think LG still has an inefficient skin, from personal experience. Also, I've read that last year, the G5 was one of the fastest phones in terms of speed - especially running custom ROMs. If LG can tweak their skin more, I'd suspect that the battery life might be better. But I'm expecting more of the same.

 

[flyingkytez]

Hard to fully use the iPhone here as an example as part of their magic for years was hardware - they had the best 720P in the business (but it was still a 720P panel). The newer iPhones while still have good battery life, don't have the awesome battery life as before.

I think LG still has an inefficient skin, from personal experience. Also, I've read that last year, the G5 was one of the fastest phones in terms of speed - especially running custom ROMs. If LG can tweak their skin more, I'd suspect that the battery life might be better. But I'm expecting more of the same.

Out of all the Android phones I've used, LG has been the fastest and smoothest, and consistently fast too, not fast for the first few months and slowed down like Samsung phones.

 

[Aquila]

Out of all the Android phones I've used, LG has been the fastest and smoothest, and consistently fast too, not fast for the first few months and slowed down like Samsung phones.

Ouch, I'm sorry you seem to have not used any of the best phones.

 

[monsieurms]

I too prefer a replaceable battery but it looks like those of us that care are fighting a losing battle. How long can we hold onto our current phones before we have to go the sealed route? I don't think at this point its coming back. Its happening to laptops too although most of them can be opened up with minor to no surgery.

yeah, maybe, until someone decides to once again use it as a distinguishing point. Given LG's marketing position,I think they were pretty stupid in doing this.

I know my decision is made though--I'm keeping my V20 until it dies in my hand unless the V40 has a removable battery.

 

[Mike Dee]

yeah, maybe, until someone decides to once again use it as a distinguishing point. Given LG's marketing position,I think they were pretty stupid in doing this.

I know my decision is made though--I'm keeping my V20 until it dies in my hand unless the V40 has a removable battery.

Given their position is why they did it.

 

[flyingkytez]

yeah, maybe, until someone decides to once again use it as a distinguishing point. Given LG's marketing position,I think they were pretty stupid in doing this.

I know my decision is made though--I'm keeping my V20 until it dies in my hand unless the V40 has a removable battery.

If nobody buys it, then they will have to go back. If you buy it at launch, then you're supporting sealed back glass phones. Boycott!

 

[flyingkytez]

Ouch, I'm sorry you seem to have not used any of the best phones.

What, the Pixel and their giant bezels? Oh and no microSD card slot? Single camera, no IR blaster, small battery? How much does it cost again? Around $850? No thanks.

Also, don't say Samsung is fast. It's not thanks to the bloated TouchWiz. Don't get me started with the curved design.

Motorola = no headphone jack = no go.

 

[Aquila]

What, the Pixel and their giant bezels? Oh and no microSD card slot? Single camera, no IR blaster, small battery? How much does it cost again? Around $850? No thanks.

Also, don't say Samsung is fast. It's not thanks to the bloated TouchWiz. Don't get me started with the curved design.

Motorola = no headphone jack = no go.

This is what you said, "Out of all the Android phones I've used, LG has been the fastest and smoothest, and consistently fast too, not fast for the first few months and slowed down like Samsung phones."

So we're talking about software performance. There are several phones that are faster/smoother/last longer than LG. Being better than the worst doesn't mean being the best.

 

[flyingkytez]

This is what you said, "Out of all the Android phones I've used, LG has been the fastest and smoothest, and consistently fast too, not fast for the first few months and slowed down like Samsung phones."

So we're talking about software performance. There are several phones that are faster/smoother/last longer than LG. Being better than the worst doesn't mean being the best.

Sure the Pixel may be fast, but it's lacking so much basic features that a heavy Android user would want, there's no way I'll get it. I never even owned it because I wasn't going to waste my time with something I don't want. Removal of the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 was the nail in the coffin. Goodbye Google/Nexus.

LG phones are fast, there's no argument there. Now you wanna see side by side speed tests, there's a guy on YouTube that does all that.