Things the Android phone or Nexus 5 does better than the iPhone

[anon5664829]

It is pretty simple how Apple is making all the money with a much lower market share is they are charging more even for the same Apps and Music you download from their iTunes. Once Apple has you locked up in their closed proprietary prison environment they can really over charge you for everything including Apps. I broke out of Apple's prison system and I hope Apple keeps raising their prices to make up for their massive loss in market share to keep making all that extra Profit off their loyal customers that love over paying for even the same App.

Android Dominates Market Share, But Apple Makes All The Money

"The volume of apps available in the Google Play app store has caught up to Apple, and Android is winning in app downloads as well. Google reportedly comprises 75 percent of all app downloads, compared to only 18 percent for Apple. Yet, Apple made half of all app revenue in the most recent quarter, demonstrating once again that volume and market share don?t translate directly to income."

"Android dominates in market share. Android dominates in app downloads. At the end of the day, though, somehow Apple?s iOS is making all of the money."

Apple doesn't charge for apps, developers do. Rather stupid comment. ITunes has way more songs then Play music even though I like Play music all access more.

Your blatent hatred really is too much.

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[Shilohcane]

Gotta love all the tangents. So this is about money? Or what people in third world countries are buying? If so I agree with you... Android is cheap. Or at least it can be. And it is indeed fact the Apple ecosystem is more profitable to both developers and partners.

Again it was your tangent that started bragging about Apple making all the profit to defend Apple's massive market share loss just like you were the one that claimed Apple doesn't have product roll out issues like Google. I hope Apple keeps raising their devices price to their loyal customers to maximize profit as Apple continue to lose Market share in the USA, Canada and Europe as well as the rest of the world.

And some things don't exist at all. Show me counterparts to iMovie, Garageband, and Keynote. Even Pages and Numbers. Quickoffice? Google Drive? LOL Just show me a decent video editor I can use that doesn't crash in the middle of my work.

And then there's the third party peripheral ecosystem. Android has more choices there? LOL. Show me an Otterbox or Lifeproof case for our Nexus.

Nice going pulling out proprietary Apple Apps like iMovie, Garageband that Apple could be asking them to stay proprietary to only Apple with a discount in fees. Then you fly with the third party peripheral ecosystem like Otterbox.

Why don't you show me a Apple iPhone that has a screen that is bigger than 4 inches that looks like it isn't made as a kid's toy screen? How about showing me a current new iPhone that cost less than $500 unlocked? How about showing me a iPhone that has NFC? How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards Wireless Qi Chargers out of the box? How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards like Miracast?

 

[Rule9]

It would appear that the joke is on you. Actually you did mention Apple - in the quote you chose to include in your post. Your post which I was replying to and which made a reference to Google's 5th rule of innovation wasn't only made in direct reply to a post about Apple, it was made in direct reply to a specific post about Apple Maps, saying that it proves Apple uses its users as beta testers. Then you referenced Google's rule that says "do not wait for perfection and let user feedback iterate it" (something to this effect). So unless you are in the habit of making non-sequitur replies (which it would seem you are), do tell us exactly what that reply in that context is supposed to mean.

I didn't get past the first sentence because it was clear by then your intent to twist words to suit the imaginary conversation you're having.

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[Rule9]

You don't know about my original comments, yet you chose to paraphrase them in quotes. I stand by my assessment that Google offerings are released much more as a work in progress than Apple's. No where did I use the words 'perfect' or 'flaws' or lack thereof.

Instead, I pointed out that Apple's heftier margins, and the infrastructure they help create provides additional value to consumers who choose to avail themselves of it. I don't know how many of you interact with the 'average' smart phone user, but many of them actually prefer the simple, walled garden.

Glad I'm not the only one. It appears he has a pattern of doing this.

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[yfan]

I didn't get past the first sentence because it was clear by then your intent to twist words to suit the imaginary conversation you're having.

Nice dodge.

 

[Shilohcane]

Apple doesn't charge for apps, developers do. Rather stupid comment. ITunes has way more songs then Play music even though I like Play music all access more.

Your blatent hatred really is too much.

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Got any proof that Apple doesn't get a percentage of those Apps sold in the Apple Store in iTunes for profit before a 15 year old kid runs around calling other people stupid like you do? Please explain to me how Apple makes 50% of the App revenue downloads with only 18% of the market's total downloads?

 

[anon5664829]

Again it was your tangent that started bragging about Apple making all the profit to defend Apple's massive market share loss just like you were the one that claimed Apple doesn't have product roll out issues like Google.




Nice going pulling out proprietary Apple Apps like iMovie, Garageband that Apple could be asking them to stay proprietary to only Apple with a discount in fees. Then you fly with the third party peripheral ecosystem like Otterbox.

Why don't you show me a Apple iPhone that has a screen that is bigger than 4 inches that looks like it is made as a kid's toy screen? How about showing me a current new iPhone that cost less than $500 unlocked? How about showing me a iPhone that has NFC? How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards Wireless Qi Chargers out of the box? How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards like Miracast?

Apple is a closed system. You won't see open standards like Miracast. I really don't see the advantage with NFC or wireless charging either, NFC really isn't that all that it is cracked up to be when it comes to sharing and such besides its not used AT ALL in my country. Hell I don't even like passbook cause they have done such a terrible job with it, I expected better. And iPhones have a full metal back so I don't know how wireless works with that back soooo.

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[anon5664829]

Got any proof that Apple doesn't get a percentage of those Apps sold in the Apple Store in iTunes for profit before a 15 year old kid runs around calling other people stupid like you do? Please explain to me how Apple makes 50% of the App revenue downloads with only 18% of the market's total downloads?

Paraphrase where I called anyone stupid. They make 30 percent profit on all apps and music, doesn't mean the developers shouldn't take the blame for increasing the prices for their apps. Blame the devs not Apple. Boy you really love to cram words down peoples throats...

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[Cant Miss]

Again it was your tangent that started bragging about Apple making all the profit to defend Apple's massive market share loss just like you were the one that claimed Apple doesn't have product roll out issues like Google.

Huh? You'll have to work on that first part as it has nothing to do with any comments of mine. As for rollouts, nobody gets it right all the time. My point was that Google purposefully rolls out unfinished products and services.

Why don't you show me a Apple iPhone that has a screen that is bigger than 4 inches that looks like it is made as a kid's toy screen?

For some 4 is big enough. If bigger is always better, why note a Note 3 instead of your Nexus?

How about showing me a current new iPhone that cost less than $500 unlocked?

Show me a Moto X, HTC One, Galaxy 4, or LG G2 at that same price. What's your point?

How about showing me a iPhone that has NFC?

Why? What good is it? Do you actually tap phones with your friends? It's faster to just send it. Do you pay with Google wallet? If so you must be fond of things not working half the time.

How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards Wireless Qi Chargers out of the box?

With the myriad of sexy docks available for iPhone, why go wireless? It is slower, wastes electricity, and in Summer, the extra heat it generates can degrade batteries over the long haul.

How about showing me a iPhone that supports industry standards like Miracast?

Oh... you must indeed be fond of things not working half the time. When I go into a meeting with an iDevice and an AppleTV I am confident I can give my presentation without looking like a fool. Why would I want to mess that up with miracast(which is slow, buggy, stuttery, and has synch issues). Airplay is one of the few reasons I still pack an iDevice.

 

[Shilohcane]

Apple is a closed system. You won't see open standards like Miracast. I really don't see the advantage with NFC or wireless charging either, NFC really isn't that all that it is cracked up to be when it comes to sharing and such besides its not used AT ALL in my country. Hell I don't even like passbook cause they have done such a terrible job with it, I expected better. And iPhones have a full metal back so I don't know how wireless works with that back soooo.

Wait you are the one that said;

Apple doesn't charge for apps, developers do. Rather stupid comment.

Now you are backtracking your own statement that Apple does make money from App sales and not just the developers that you blame now for charging extra in the Apple ecosystem.... Then again you are only 15 years old so I'm not going to insult your intelligence like you did mine on your post above.

So you don't see any need for Wireless Qi charging. Since you are in New Zealand or Australia if I remember right you could be in the same learning curve of the Qi wireless concept and will take time to accept this new technology that this article spoke about in North America.

The global wireless charging market is expected to reach $7.161 billion in 2017 from $456.86 million in 2011 at an estimated CAGR of 57.46% from 2012 to 2017. Japan ranks first in the wireless charging market. The market of North America will take a couple of years to grow due to the slow acceptance of the concept of wireless charging. The consumers are yet in the learning curve of the concept and will take time to accept this new technology. Wireless Charger Market (2012-2017), Research Report :MarketsandMarkets

So you also think NFC is useless as well. NFC in the next year or two will be in over 50% of the phones in most developed countries. NFC is now even starting to be used to pair tiny bluetooth devices like headphones. NFC has a lot of advantages since it is low power and limited 10 cm range. NFC is an inexpensive passive system for payer identification. It is popular in Europe but not in the US. Then again why Apple doesn't have NFC is because Apple is betting on another technology to trump NFC. We are talking about Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE).

Apple recently acquired a company called WiFiSLAM for about $20 million in March. It appears that Apple has chosen Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) over NFC as its communications technology given a further range of 70 meters and has the potential to exploit the massive location services market more effectively. It also underscores Apple's strategy of creating something new and not going along with the tide. http://www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/6662871/apple-inc-aapl-why-apple-ignored-nfc-it-has-something-better-in-its-kitty

 

[Rule9]

Nice dodge.

Don't flatter yourself kid

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[Rule9]

Heaven forfend! People with less money having access to affordable mini computers? Say it ain't so!

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Nice drama. I see we're in grade 3 now.

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[mrsmumbles]

Nice drama. I see we're in grade 3 now.

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You do reply with non sequiturs. You say stuff, people reply, and then you come back as if you have no idea what others are replying to.

Life without context must be fun. No responsibilities.

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[Rule9]

You do reply with non sequiturs. You say stuff, people reply, and then you come back as if you have no idea what others are replying to.

Life without context must be fun. No responsibilities.

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No that's actually just you.

Regardless I'M not the one who's been engaging in multiple pages worth of snippy drama comments across not just this thread, but the other as well.

You're preaching to me? Wow that's rich. Lol. Hello pot meet kettle

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[Shilohcane]

Nice drama. I see we're in grade 3 now.

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That is pure BS reply since mrsmumbles was on target with that statement. Not everyone is rich enough even in the USA to own $600 smartphone. I am buying a friend his first smartphone now that just lost his entire home in a fire that he was re-building before he got insurance. He lost everything including his laptop and now all he owns is a old fashion flip phone. Not everyone can afford or justify a expensive smartphone or qualify for those subsidised discounted phones from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint that lock you into a 2 year contract with an expensive monthly fee.

If the Nexus 5 cost $500 I would have been priced out of the market since I just can't justify paying $500 for a smartphone.

 

[mrsmumbles]

No that's actually just you.

Regardless I'M not the one who's been engaging in multiple pages worth of snippy drama comments across not just this thread, but the other as well.

You're preaching to me? Wow that's rich. Lol. Hello pot meet kettle

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"Snippy drama comments" is actually pretty catchy. Too bad they frown on multiple user IDs here.

---Snippy Drama

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[yfan]

Nice drama. I see we're in grade 3 now.

Says the person who just responded with:

Don't flatter yourself kid

Oh, the irony.

You're preaching to me? Wow that's rich. Lol. Hello pot meet kettle

So you agree that you're kettle in this analogy?

 

[neonworm]

Please be respectful and keep the discussion civil. Thank you.

 

[Rule9]

Says the person who just responded with:


Oh, the irony.


So you agree that you're kettle in this analogy?

See the post above

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[yfan]

Apple is a closed system. You won't see open standards like Miracast.

So... why is Apple a sponsor (top-level member) of the consortium of companies that promotes, develops and maintains Miracast?

They make 30 percent profit on all apps and music, doesn't mean the developers shouldn't take the blame for increasing the prices for their apps.

Sure it does. Developers have to pay Apple something they don't have to pay Google. If they want to make the same amount of money per download, they have to jack up the price on App Store. Apple is adding to their costs, only partly, but therefore they share partly in the blame for price.

Show me a Moto X, HTC One, Galaxy 4, or LG G2 at that same price. What's your point?

I don't want to speak for Shilohcane, but I believe the point is that are good, solid Android choices for someone on a budget, while there are none on iPhone. The point is that value and affordability are as legitimate consumer consideration as anything else.

Why? What good is it? Do you actually tap phones with your friends? It's faster to just send it. Do you pay with Google wallet? If so you must be fond of things not working half the time.

NFC works all of the time. I pay with Google Wallet all the time, and the only "problem" I face is bug-eyes from others in line and the cashiers - what did you do?

With the myriad of sexy docks available for iPhone, why go wireless? It is slower, wastes electricity, and in Summer, the extra heat it generates can degrade batteries over the long haul.

I see, all the things you value are legitimate concerns. All the things everyone else values, who needs'em? By the way, maybe you should try the Nexus 5's wireless charging. It charges nearly as fast on wireless as with a cable. But more than that, phones are about choices. This is a choice some of us like. You don't have to like it, but you don't get to say it doesn't count.