You left out Chrome. ...which is definitely half-baked when compared to its contemporaries.
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Things the Android phone or Nexus 5 does better than the iPhone
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You left out Chrome. ...which is definitely half-baked when compared to its contemporaries.
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Yea, like a apple fan like you would be unbiased with what you have posted on iMore. Maybe your Apples maps looks real good on your tiny 3.5 or 4 inch iPhone screen. Yea, I know you are going to claim you have a Nexus 4 just like I had four iPhones that the first three broke and I am still stuck with one that Apple is too incompetent to unlock from AT&T even after I got AT&T's approval.
Now now. The mods will come and ninja this thread up should we not be cool to each other.
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Don't tell us how objective you are; show us.
Aha! I see, so the flaws from Apple aren't flaws because they are "by design." But the flaws from Google are definitely *not* by design, right? I mean, if I told you that Google has purposely left out group messaging from Hangouts SMS, therefore making such inadequacy a matter of "design," will that make it any less of a flaw? That something is "by design" has absolutely zero baring on whether or not it is half-baked or flawed.
I just addressed Hangouts, one might say Voice's flaws are also "by design" or blame it on someone else (such as carriers not playing nice with Google Voice MMS) for it, and by your standards, that should be enough. But it's not, and I'm happy to concede the point that there are features reasonable users would want that these things leave out. Google isn't excused for that. They do make up for it, however, by letting you use any other app for SMS in place of Hangouts, as your default. Apple won't allow this. That's by design, and that's flawed.
Just why is Chromecast "unfinished?" I don't even know what the heck bluedroid is, so I'm going to leave that one aside.
Hmm. Are you saying that any product that at some future time either improves or goes away is by definition "half baked?" All products by everyone iterate and get better or go away - if that's the tack you take, then every product by everyone is always half-baked, since in the future it will either "improve or go away."
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Cc is unfinished because, after all this time, still no one can connect with it.
What I am saying is that Google, by its very nature, releases unfinished products / services. It's OK, they are for the most part free, and because of that, expectations are low. Use it and Google collects your data and adds it to their files, don't and it won't. Someone here wanted to exclude beta connotations as off limits, so siri and maps are also non-sequiter.
Another word thrown out was "perfect". I don't recall that word ever being used in the context of this discussion, whether it be Apple or Google.
You can nitpick this thing anyway you like. But if you really can't see any area where iOS excels over Android, your reality distortion field is turned up way too high for us to have a meaningful conversation here.
I'm an android fan thus why I have a Nexus 4 and finding out my options to import the Moto X to my country( BTW I had to get the Nexus 4 imported as well) want proof? I'll take pictures of it next to it saying " So what were you saying again?" Difference between you and I? I don't bash Apple senselessly.
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Huh? No one can connect with it? I connect Netflix and YouTube and Pandora to it all the time!
Google releases unifinished products, yes. But as for products that are not marked beta, I don't think that it does so "by nature." At any rate, the point isn't that Google doesn't release unfinished products. The point is your contention that Apple does not, which isn't true.
Again, thanks for the strawman argument. I never said I can't see *any* area that iOS excels over Android. In fact, I just basically told you in the previous reply that the Android camera app (and Nexus cameras) tend to be inferior to Apple's.
I have no problem with the contention that iOS excels in certain things. I have a problem with the idea that all of Apple's released products are better polished than all of Google's or that Google uses its users as beta testers while Apple does not. If you want to talk about a particular function and how it's handled between the OS's, I'm happy to.
So what? How does that change the fact that Apple is using their people as beta testers for a product that clearly was not finished?
People on here are citing "it just works" as a reason that the iPhone is better. Clearly it does not work in this case. There are other examples, but this one is the most obvious and most high profile. It was so obvious that Apple themselves, with their marketing genius, could not cover it up and were forced to acknowledge and apologize for it.
Yes they do. And they are marked as beta...and they are free. You are not paying a premium to use Googles products. And they are not mandatory, even on google's own platform.
"It just works" implies it. It implies that you will not have bugs or imperfections in the finished product.
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Really Chromecast isn't finished to you since not every third party media has supported it. How rich since the Chromecast didn't ship till the last week in July 2013 and has just added HBO GO support. Apple AirPlay was released in Sept 2010 and HBO GO didn't support AirPlay until Feb 2013.
LOL, Apple just added in Sept 2013 the ability to stream purchased content from the iTunes Store to another person's Apple TV, even if it isn't set up with their Apple ID and password. After the Sept 2013 Apple update media will streamed directly from the cloud, rather than requiring a local device to Apple Airplay. BTW, Google launched with that ability in July 2013 when the product was announced. What took Apple three years to get that ability that Chromecast had a launch?
The tweak gives the Apple TV an ability offered by Google's new Chromecast, a $35 media streaming dongle the search giant launched this summer.
Once again Google makes a inexpensive product for $35 that you can control from your Android, Apple device or even Windows Laptop devices. Apples over priced Airplay only support native Apple devices like iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch. Imagine that I buy one of the over priced Apple AirPlay and then I get fed up with Apples devices that break too easy like the three iPhone that broke just one week out of warranty or get sick of a phone with a tiny 3.5 or 4 inch screen. Apple locks their customers in apple prison with their products. If I decide to beak out of that closed environment to buy a phone that has a descent size screen that Apple doesn't offer with their one size fits all design that makes my Apple AirPlay worthless with out another overpriced Apple product.
Apple AirPlay is unfinished because, after all this time still since no one can connect with non-Apple devices without expensive third party Apps.
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I'm glad you mentioned airplay. Google's implementation of this is miracast, which simply does not work worth a damn (unfinished or not).
Oh... And let's not forget the orb.
It's laughable you guys scream "maps" (one thing) or pick on Apple's business model (closed ecosystem) to support an argument about whose products are less polished at rollout. Google has a rich history here that I doubt many companies can compete with.
Lol? How did you arrive at this.conclusion? I never even mentioned apple. If putting words into my mouth to suit some side argument that I wasn't even making is what you're thanking me for then you're welcome I guess?
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I never claimed apple was innocent, you're jumping to the same conclusion the other poster I responded to is. I'm merely pointing out that your accusation against apple also applies to Google. The difference is that Google owns up to it in writing.
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Apple's customer's belief that Apple is flawless and magical has made the company one of, if not the most valuable companies
in the history of the universe. To do anything that might alter that would be poor business sense and a disservice to its investors.G Pad 8.3
It would appear that the joke is on you. Actually you did mention Apple - in the quote you chose to include in your post. Your post which I was replying to and which made a reference to Google's 5th rule of innovation wasn't only made in direct reply to a post about Apple, it was made in direct reply to a specific post about Apple Maps, saying that it proves Apple uses its users as beta testers. Then you referenced Google's rule that says "do not wait for perfection and let user feedback iterate it" (something to this effect). So unless you are in the habit of making non-sequitur replies (which it would seem you are), do tell us exactly what that reply in that context is supposed to mean.
So they have no problem sacrificing their users on the alter of profit.Apple's customer's belief that Apple is flawless and magical has made the company one of, if not the most valuable companies
I suppose thats a good strategy in the short term. In the long term...not so much. Might also explain why they have been bleeding marketshare to Android now for a while.
One BIG thing. It was not Android users complaining about this...it was Apple's own users. This is something that should never ever have happened. Apple, of all companies, should have tested more thoroughly. Should not have released it prematurely. This is a glowing example of how the "it just works" mantra is clearly BS.
Google is not charging you a premium though, or making grandiose "it just works" claims either. Apple was doing that.
Except that Miracast is NOT Google's product at all. It is created, maintained and promoted by the Wi-Fi Alliance. Apple is a member of Wi-Fi Alliance, as is Google, along with more than 100 other companies.
As much as you'd like to dismiss Apple's flaws as "one thing" or "business model," they are still flaws. As I said, just because something is unfinished by design doesn't make it automatically finished. But we aren't, of course, talking just about maps. I have quoted a study before in this very thread that found iOS 7 caused trouble for 90% of pre-existing apps. Even iMore made a case for not updating to iOS 7 immediately.
Then there's Apple's anti-interoperability "business model". It certainly IS their business model, but it is a serious flaw when it comes to consumers who don't want to get tied to a single ecosystem, and we'll point that out even if you don't like it.
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