Verizon Black Friday/Cyber Monday Pixel Deals

[juliesdroidsync]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

I completely understand that now and appreciate the attempts to explain. It's not the terms I have an issue with. I know I can swap phones etc. The bottom line is "the terms" were blatantly omitted from the conversation. I didn't even sign a contract. I have 3 receipts for cash paid for taxes, screen protector, and case. No printout of plan, insurance terms, anything.

I understand and accept the terms now and have cooled off but those were blatantly not the terms presented. I was lied too. Why is that not believable. Like I paid $750 cash for an iPhone 7 a month ago. Money wasn't the issue. It was how they handled it. Period. Regardless of the terms. On good faith I was not presented with any terms. I was given a verbal different from the terms. I think I've made my point.

I appreciate all opinions whether agree or disagree with me. I welcome explanations, etc. That's what the forums are for.

There will be people that will always want to point out that you "should have known because of xxx".

I say you should not have to be a lawyer to understand a phone plan, which is dang near what you have to be...

Similar omission in my recent Verizon dealings, not telling me that my new DPP required 100% payoff before I could upgrade.

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

There will be people that will always want to point out that you "should have known because of xxx".

I say you should not have to be a lawyer to understand a phone plan, which is dang near what you have to be...

Similar omission in my recent Verizon dealings, not telling me that my new DPP required 100% payoff before I could upgrade.

Well...I'm an MD with PhD in Neuroscience and taught statistics while in Graduate School...so no matter how smart (not saying I am) a person is, honesty I guess just can't be expected, lol...

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

I'm curious how that affects one's ability to buy phone on DPP.

If you pay it off, are you eligible again after they give you bill credits or once the phone is paid off?

My situation is an anomaly because my trade was worth the value of my purchase.

That's what kind of had Verizon on their heels when I got to upper management. Normally it would be like $300 credit towards a $650 phone and the remaining $350 would be divided into 24 payments made by the customer, etc.

But in instances where the trade is equal or worth more (rare) you're stuck with the options I have. In my instance I ported over, didn't upgrade. So I they were crediting me over 24 months for the trade. If I paid off...I'd then get that amount credited back and could port and get a check for the remaining amount or could stay and use the credit for a new phone.

So for me since my device balance is essentially zero I could walk in right now and get a phone of the same price or less without it costing more or extending me.

In the long run my situation is not bad. It's very flexible now that I understand it. And I don't have to worry about depreciation. When ever I want to upgrade the Pixel is worth $27 x months left of contract.

I tend to over complicate in text. Hope that makes sense

 

[Ry]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

My situation is an anomaly because my trade was worth the value of my purchase.

That's what kind of had Verizon on their heels when I got to upper management. Normally it would be like $300 credit towards a $650 phone and the remaining $350 would be divided into 24 payments made by the customer, etc.

But in instances where the trade is equal or worth more (rare) you're stuck with the options I have. In my instance I ported over, didn't upgrade. So I they were crediting me over 24 months for the trade. If I paid off...I'd then get that amount credited back and could port and get a check for the remaining amount or could stay and use the credit for a new phone.

So for me since my device balance is essentially zero I could walk in right now and get a phone of the same price or less without it costing more or extending me.

In the long run my situation is not bad. It's very flexible now that I understand it. And I don't have to worry about depreciation. When ever I want to upgrade the Pixel is worth $27 x months left of contract.

I tend to over complicate in text. Hope that makes sense

Your situation sounds like it will be the norm now with all of the carriers doing the bill credit model instead a straight discount on the full price of the phone.

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Would never recommend against VPN, but as it was explained to me Nougat if configured correctly really is very secure and locked down. Of course no matter how well the security is done, the user can always do something by accident.

 

[vzwuser76]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

There will be people that will always want to point out that you "should have known because of xxx".

I say you should not have to be a lawyer to understand a phone plan, which is dang near what you have to be...

Similar omission in my recent Verizon dealings, not telling me that my new DPP required 100% payoff before I could upgrade.

You don't have to be a lawyer, but it helps (I'm not one btw, just an electronics tech). However you do have to protect yourself, because these companies aren't going to do it for you. And that's true of dealing with most anyone, whether it's a company or a person.

Now when I say you should do this or that, it's because I've had experiences that didn't work out well for me, and want to pass that along so other people don't make the same mistakes I've made. It's less about assigning blame and more about don't get screwed over like I did.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Would never recommend against VPN, but as it was explained to me Nougat if configured correctly really is very secure and locked down. Of course no matter how well the security is done, the user can always do something by accident.

Nougat has nothing to do with your internet connection though. Your phone can be super secure but if you connect to open WiFi that people can monitor traffic on -- it doesn't mean much.

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Nougat has nothing to do with your internet connection though. Your phone can be super secure but if you connect to open WiFi that people can monitor traffic on -- it doesn't mean much.

Agreed. I don't use open public wifi. Sorry, misunderstood you.

 

[Almeuit]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Agreed. I don't use open public wifi. Sorry, misunderstood you.

I am in the same boat -- I avoid public wifi at all costs . If I had to use it though a VPN would def. be used .

 

[Ry]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

My situation is an anomaly because my trade was worth the value of my purchase.

That's what kind of had Verizon on their heels when I got to upper management. Normally it would be like $300 credit towards a $650 phone and the remaining $350 would be divided into 24 payments made by the customer, etc.

But in instances where the trade is equal or worth more (rare) you're stuck with the options I have. In my instance I ported over, didn't upgrade. So I they were crediting me over 24 months for the trade. If I paid off...I'd then get that amount credited back and could port and get a check for the remaining amount or could stay and use the credit for a new phone.

So for me since my device balance is essentially zero I could walk in right now and get a phone of the same price or less without it costing more or extending me.

In the long run my situation is not bad. It's very flexible now that I understand it. And I don't have to worry about depreciation. When ever I want to upgrade the Pixel is worth $27 x months left of contract.

I tend to over complicate in text. Hope that makes sense

Curious - do you have that in writing?

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Curious - do you have that in writing?

Yes the PDF letter head was from :

Verizon Headquarters
140 W. St. New York, NY 10007

And today I received a letter in print from:

Verizon Headquarters
1095 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036

It's literally a paragraph. Just states essentially, per our discussion, if your Google Pixel is paid in full, Verizon will still owe you your remaining credit. Thus you you could use your credit to upgrade or if you chose to end your time here with Verizon you would be issued a check in the amount of credits owed. We hope this has satisfied your request to better understand the terms and conditions you agreed. We hope this alleviates any feeling you were not treated fairly and choose to remain the Best Part of Verizon Wireless.

I'd take a pic but between names, address, accounts, numbers just to my private info to blackout.

 

[Ry]

Mod note: split the Verizon and Best Buy deals into separate threads. The Best Buy deal is here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...ay-9-99-mo-verizon-dpp-240-100-gift-card.html

 

[hal1]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Meaning, I could pay $650 today and pay off the Pixel which would bring everything to $0 on my end, but they still owe $650 in credits.

I don't know if this has been asked. Could I pay off my balance now, and continue to get the monthly credit for the next 24 months if I stay with them?

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

I don't know if this has been asked. Could I pay off my balance now, and continue to get the monthly credit for the next 24 months if I stay with them?

Yeah, but logically why would you do that? Right now you are getting the credit for 24 months anyway without paying it off?

Only makes sense to pay off if you are porting out and want the credits issued to you in a check.

 

[Ry]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Yeah, but logically why would you do that? Right now you are getting the credit for 24 months anyway without paying it off?

Only makes sense to pay off if you are porting out and want the credits issued to you in a check.

The only reason I could think of is that a new phone comes out and you want to buy it using DPP.

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

The only reason I could think of is that a new phone comes out and you want to buy it using DPP.

Yes, that's true...they'd be happy to do that. They'd be ecstatic. If you got the same rep they might even hug you. Two flagship activations for them and you're not returning...they be jumping up and down, lol

 

[hal1]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

The only reason I could think of is that a new phone comes out and you want to buy it using DPP.

Actually, that's kind of where I was going with this. Let's say I pay off my phone now. And then next year at this same time they have another Smokin deal on Black Friday for the brand new pixel 2 that I want to jump on.

 

[anon(9733642)]

Re: Best Buy Black Friday: $9.99/mo on Verizon DPP

Actually, that's kind of where I was going with this. Let's say I pay off my phone now. And then next year at this same time they have another Smokin deal on Black Friday for the brand new pixel 2 that I want to jump on.

Simple answer is if you payoff your phone, yes...the long convoluted answer is below. Ultimately, if you pay off your phone you can enter another DPP, a lot is entailed though pending if you had a trade or just went straight in.

Okay. So follow me. This is what would happen in that instance if you remained with Verizon the next 12 months and wanted the "Pixel 2" and it was say $649 again.

If you had a trade, you are not really getting credit for your Pixel. Your are getting credit for your trade over a 24 month period which in turn allows you to use the Pixel. Once your full trade is credited then it equals out and you own the Pixel. So paying off your Pixel doesn't really do anything except you can't have 2 DPP on the same phone number.

So if you "paid off your Pixel now" your really paying twice. Your trade which hasn't fully been credited and the Pixel. So basically you've given them $650 and they will continue giving you $27 a month.

12 months from now you go to get this Pixel 2 for $649. You would still have 12 months of $27/month credits for $325 and $649 over paid on the account. So basically you could upgrade to another DPP but you'd have $975 in credit with Verizon so it wouldn't make much sense.

See the Black Friday Deals are great for those who wanted S7, iPhone 7, Pixel for $10/month and are good with a 2 year contract.

The deals really are not that advantageous when trading in a device because your waiting on the device credits over 24 months which is different then paying $10 a month, etc.

 

[Ry]

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[vzwuser76]

Yeah, but logically why would you do that? Right now you are getting the credit for 24 months anyway without paying it off?

Only makes sense to pay off if you are porting out and want the credits issued to you in a check.

Not according to their terms. From reading the terms and the different sites commenting on it, if you pay the device off, say after 1 year, you lose any bill credits going forward. So you'd only get half of the discount you would get had you kept on monthly payments throughout the 24 month period.

It's the same as it is with their trade ins. When I was going to trade in my old Galaxy S3 when they were running the promo to give you $200 for any trade in worth more than a dollar, you have to keep on monthly payments until it's paid off to get the full credit.

It's a sneaky way for Verizon to have 2 year contracts without calling them that. It's almost like a shell game. While they've eliminated 2 year contracts and ETFs for the most part, when you cancel, switch carriers, or pay off early, you lose the remaining monthly credits, which works out a lot like an ETF. The difference here is it's like you're paying an ETF even if you pay off the device early. In effect, this is actually worse than it was with 2 year contracts, because they didn't penalize you if you paid off your bill early.

I knew this before I ordered mine on BF, but that's one of the benefits of being the only techie in a share plan with 4 other people. I use their upgrades they have available, and they get my older devices at a steep discount. Since they just want a phone for calls, web browsing, and media consumption, it works out all around. So when a new device comes out, I don't have to worry about not paying off my line and losing the monthly credits. The only way it would be an issue would be if I switched carriers, and considering AT&T is the only other option in my area, and their signal footprint and costs are essentially the same, that probably won't happen.