Verizon Update -- Does Anyone Know What It Is For?

[mustang7757]

Yeah but that doesn't make sense

Since s9 they talked about Samsung having Project Treble but never happened

 

[Mattsg430]

That's precisely why. We who bought the unlocked version unfortunately usually get these updates after all of the big carriers approve them - so far I've seen Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon push this out, so fingers crossed AT&T will soon so we'll be eligible.

Gotcha. Sigh.

 

[Mike Dee]

Since s9 they talked about Samsung having Project Treble but never happened

I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

 

[mustang7757]

I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

The reason why the update loads and turns off and loads again while reboot is it's not on project Treble, pixels and phones on android one are thsts why the updates take longer to update your phone , Samsung was supposed to jump on this but haven't yet.

 

[Mike Dee]

The reason why the update loads and turns off and loads again while reboot is it's not on project Treble, pixels and phones on android one are thsts why the updates take longer to update your phone , Samsung was supposed to jump on this but haven't yet.

At least it's not trouble with tribbles

 

[felloffthetruck]

So, what improvements is everyone seeing with this March update?

Me, Nothing.

 

[DWS44]

So, what improvements is everyone seeing with this March update?

Me, Nothing.

So far...nothing seems to be worse. That's my #1 goal in software updates anymore. Anything else is gravy. hehe

 

[mustang7757]

At least it's not trouble with tribbles

Lol...

 

[Scutley]

That's precisely why. We who bought the unlocked version unfortunately usually get these updates after all of the big carriers approve them - so far I've seen Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon push this out, so fingers crossed AT&T will soon so we'll be eligible.

Don't care would rather have an unlock phone then a lock [or whatever you call it]

 

[Almeuit]

Don't care would rather have an unlock phone then a lock [or whatever you call it]

I am definitely in the "don't care" camp. I usually stay with a carrier and don't really ever hop around so the phone being locked or unlocked makes no difference for me. That said most Verizon phones auto unlock after a month or two of buying them now.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

The reason why the update loads and turns off and loads again while reboot is it's not on project Treble, pixels and phones on android one are thsts why the updates take longer to update your phone , Samsung was supposed to jump on this but haven't yet.

You are confusing seamless updates and project treble. Project treble makes it where updates can happen faster because they can update certain parts without having to update everything. Seamless updates are where your updates can install in the background. Samsung doesn't seem to care about doing this because you have to have two separate partitions for it to work and they don't do that on their phones. Personally I prefer this to seamless updates. Because it happens in the background my Pixel seems to take forever to do an update. With my S10, it just does it, and it's done.

 

[mustang7757]

You are confusing seamless updates and project treble. Project treble makes it where updates can happen faster because they can update certain parts without having to update everything. Seamless updates are where your updates can install in the background. Samsung doesn't seem to care about doing this because you have to have two separate partitions for it to work and they don't do that on their phones. Personally I prefer this to seamless updates. Because it happens in the background my Pixel seems to take forever to do an update. With my S10, it just does it, and it's done.

Maybe I'm missing something, seamless and project treble not the same? Seamless update is not another name for project treble?

Pixel will load the update while you use your phone and then reboot.
Samsung will download the update then reboot to load the update that's why you see the blue screen android updating.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Maybe I'm missing something, seamless and project treble not the same? Seamless update is not another name for project treble?

Pixel will load the update while you use your phone and then reboot.
Samsung will download the update then reboot to load the update that's why you see the blue screen android updating.

No, it's not the same thing.

https://m.androidcentral.com/project-treble

https://m.androidcentral.com/what-are-seamless-updates-and-how-will-they-work

https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s9-project-treble-support-confirmed/

As you can see from the links, project treble is supported on Samsung phones and should help them put out their updates faster. They do not however use seamless updates.

 

[felloffthetruck]

When will the April update be out?

 

[Jaycemiskel]

When will the April update be out?

Probably in May. They usually run about a month behind. We're just now getting March lol.

 

[jpieri4]

Okay, this is weird but...for me anyway the FPS SEEMS to be working a lot better now. I had thought though that the FPS update was previously pushed out by Samsung when the phone was released.

 

[mustang7757]

No, it's not the same thing.

https://m.androidcentral.com/project-treble

https://m.androidcentral.com/what-are-seamless-updates-and-how-will-they-work

https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s9-project-treble-support-confirmed/

As you can see from the links, project treble is supported on Samsung phones and should help them put out their updates faster. They do not however use seamless updates.

They are supported but dont use project treble as they take way to long between major OS updates

 

[Jaycemiskel]

They are supported but dont use project treble as they take way to long between major OS updates

I don't think you can say they don't use it because if it supports it, it means they have the two partitions. I just don't think they care about getting them out quickly. Although, Pie came out a little sooner than other OS's have. It came out before the new phones came out.

Anyway, my main point was, they're not the same thing.

 

[mustang7757]

I don't think you can say they don't use it because if it supports it, it means they have the two partitions. I just don't think they care about getting them out quickly. Although, Pie came out a little sooner than other OS's have. It came out before the new phones came out.

Anyway, my main point was, they're not the same thing.

They definitely dont have 2 partitions,
Seamless updates have 2 partitions.

Cool:

 

[Jaycemiskel]

They definitely dont have 2 partitions,
Seamless updates have 2 partitions.

Cool:

You can have two partitions and not support seamless updates. Samsung chose not to support this. In order to support project treble, you have to have two partitions as far as like the vendor stuff and the Google stuff. Here's an article where they even talk about using treble on the S9 over at XDA.

https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-aosp-android-oreo-project-treble/

And guess what? No seamless updates on the S9. Here's another article that explains the difference for you.

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...ess-updates-affect-custom-development-on-xda/

Also attached a picture of the relevant part.