what is condsidered normal battery life?

[Ryan32973]

Moto is laughable, the lady I spoke with talked about removing the battery.... Razr Maxx support mind you....

 

[jeres88]

First cant believe no one mention it. Your task killer is helping kill the battery your force it to stop android will just start it back up.

I'm going to have to 2nd this. The task killer is not only running in the background taking up battery life itself, but it is also killing an app that the Android OS is just starting back up again and again, which will really kill the battery life. I recommend to try uninstalling the task killer for a couple of days and see what happens.

 

[Ryan32973]

OK... Losing 20-25% of your battery overnight when on idle, airplane mode is normal, I guess...

According to Motorola's Level 2 Tier technical support team, which is the highest they would elevate my claim, they reviewed the battery life, cycle and habits (They had a real good history for the past 20 days and knew everything I did and when I did it as it pertains to turning "radios" on and off) and the tech stated "your Maxx is operating very good and I would not replace it..."

They did tell me that many are seeing around 16-20 hours and I am seeing around 24 hours, so I am in the higher range. Keep in mind, that 24 hour range normally includes 8-10 hours of idle time with no charger plugged in. They did tell me that the Wi-Fi is better to run than 4g LTE, if possible and that the Bluetooth issue is killing my battery as well, meaning I should limit work time Bluetooth. He also mentioned that using Market apps as task killers is not a good idea and that using the Moto task manager should be all if anything you need to use...

So I guess.... Thoughts?

 

[MA2GA28]

OK... Losing 20-25% of your battery overnight when on idle, airplane mode is normal, I guess...

According to Motorola's Level 2 Tier technical support team, which is the highest they would elevate my claim, they reviewed the battery life, cycle and habits (They had a real good history for the past 20 days and knew everything I did and when I did it as it pertains to turning "radios" on and off) and the tech stated "your Maxx is operating very good and I would not replace it..."

They did tell me that many are seeing around 16-20 hours and I am seeing around 24 hours, so I am in the higher range. Keep in mind, that 24 hour range normally includes 8-10 hours of idle time with no charger plugged in. They did tell me that the Wi-Fi is better to run than 4g LTE, if possible and that the Bluetooth issue is killing my battery as well, meaning I should limit work time Bluetooth. He also mentioned that using Market apps as task killers is not a good idea and that using the Moto task manager should be all if anything you need to use...

So I guess.... Thoughts?

I agree with getting rid of the Task Killer. As others have said, its just another app running in the background, killing apps that may turn right back on. Could be doing more harm than good. Set up some smart actions instead or use a power save widget to shut radios off when you don't need them.

BT seems like a logical explanation, but as long as the signal is strong, BT doesn't steal much battery.

And 24 hours, charge to charge, is pretty good based on what I've seen others report, especially if most of your day is spent just on 4G. The nighttime discharge is still very weird, especially if you have the phone in idle with everything off. But, if you're still getting that long out of each charge, you're right on target I'd say.

 

[Ryan32973]

I agree with getting rid of the Task Killer. As others have said, its just another app running in the background, killing apps that may turn right back on. Could be doing more harm than good. Set up some smart actions instead or use a power save widget to shut radios off when you don't need them.

BT seems like a logical explanation, but as long as the signal is strong, BT doesn't steal much battery.

And 24 hours, charge to charge, is pretty good based on what I've seen others report, especially if most of your day is spent just on 4G. The nighttime discharge is still very weird, especially if you have the phone in idle with everything off. But, if you're still getting that long out of each charge, you're right on target I'd say.

Thanks!

I actually use Wi-Fi at home/office as I work form home mostly. They (Moto Tech) did tell me that Wi-Fi is better on the battery versus weak to middle 4G...

I have a clean brand new one sitting up at VZW, they let me get one as I was up there prior to my 14 day return but, I am not sure I need to exchange now, should I?

 

[MA2GA28]

Thanks!

I actually use Wi-Fi at home/office as I work form home mostly. They (Moto Tech) did tell me that Wi-Fi is better on the battery versus weak to middle 4G...

I have a clean brand new one sitting up at VZW, they let me get one as I was up there prior to my 14 day return but, I am not sure I need to exchange now, should I?

That's your call. If you've customized your current phone already, might not be worth it to do it all over again. With that said, how much have you been on wifi vs. 4G during your battery tracking? If you've been on wifi more (and are on wifi for a good chunk of the day), that changes everything, and I'd say go get the new phone. I say that because I'd expect better battery life if you're predominantly on wifi. And, if you're on wifi at home, the nighttime power leak sounds even more odd (unless the wifi signal in your bedroom is very weak).

 

[Ryan32973]

That's your call. If you've customized your current phone already, might not be worth it to do it all over again. With that said, how much have you been on wifi vs. 4G during your battery tracking? If you've been on wifi more (and are on wifi for a good chunk of the day), that changes everything, and I'd say go get the new phone. I say that because I'd expect better battery life if you're predominantly on wifi. And, if you're on wifi at home, the nighttime power leak sounds even more odd (unless the wifi signal in your bedroom is very weak).

The night time power peak, comes from something else, as I have wifi turned off and normally let it rest on a very strong 3G...

I have very rarely used 4G.

 

[MA2GA28]

Why do you have wifi turned off and have 3G left on? Even if 3G is strong, you should still bed on wifi which is a more consistent signal.

All of your posts are confusing as hell. Your explanations make it seem like you're doing one thing, but it turns out you're doing something else. I thought you said your phone is on airplane mode overnight? If so, its not getting a 3G signal.

 

[Sandman333]

I can tell you that over the couple weeks I have owned my Maxx the battery life has very slowly continued to improve. At first I was very disappointed that it drained so fast. Now, I'm quite impressed with it. I don't know if it's the battery breaking in or smart actions/task killer learning how I use the phone and regulating it better? I know that over an 8 hour period with little to no usage in a strong 3G area there will be virually no drop of the battery meter.

 

[taskellusaf]

I will say this, even though the phone last longer than any others, I believe the claim of 18 hours straight talking that I have seen, to be complete bull .... I just spent 3 minutes on the phone and droped 3 percent.... but also seen differrent reports of 8 hours. and I just don't see any way, I'm gonna get 16 hours of straight video.

 

[Ryan32973]

Why do you have wifi turned off and have 3G left on? Even if 3G is strong, you should still bed on wifi which is a more consistent signal.

All of your posts are confusing as hell. Your explanations make it seem like you're doing one thing, but it turns out you're doing something else. I thought you said your phone is on airplane mode overnight? If so, its not getting a 3G signal.

Every night and every post has been similar except the few designed and referring to the Moto tech requested test.

The airplane mode was specifically designed by the Motorola Tech along with safe mode... If you read through that post again, you should see that. It was a one night test designed to lessen all my apps/radios to see what was hitting my power drain...

What sense would it make to leave wifi on overnight while asleep? Smart actions turns all radios off that do not have anything to do with cell phone calls, which in my line of work I need to have the ability to receive 24/7... I guess I assumed my 3G is staying on, actually.

Not sure what confuses you but, the only post around airplane mode was for the one night test.

If you are saying full 3G drains more than wifi, from my tests it seems they are about equal...

 

[taskellusaf]

So does 4g give you better battery life vs 3g??

 

[Zman1001]

So does 4g give you better battery life vs 3g??

No. Battery life goes as follows:

4G - Drains faster
3G - drains fast
Wifi - Drains

Just remember, the faster and more powerful everything is, the more it will put a drain on the battery. I can surf the internet on wifi for 1 hour and my battery will drain maybe 10%, but if I surf the same exact sites for one hour on 4G, it drains at least 20%. Not saying that 4G drains 2 times faster than wifi, but it does drain faster

 

[MA2GA28]

No. Battery life goes as follows:

4G - Drains faster
3G - drains fast
Wifi - Drains

Just remember, the faster and more powerful everything is, the more it will put a drain on the battery. I can surf the internet on wifi for 1 hour and my battery will drain maybe 10%, but if I surf the same exact sites for one hour on 4G, it drains at least 20%. Not saying that 4G drains 2 times faster than wifi, but it does drain faster

That's not accurate, as your wifi SHOULD be the fastest and easiest way to get data. 4G and 3G expend so much battery life because you are sending signals to an antenna that could be many miles away (vs. a wifi antenna which is most likely within 100 feet or so). Plus, with 4G and 3G, you are possibly fighting millions of others for a spot from that tower, which helps drain the battery quicker. 4G drains faster than 3G because of a number of factors, including its larger data load.

 

[socarwolverine]

That's not accurate, as your wifi SHOULD be the fastest and easiest way to get data. 4G and 3G expend so much battery life because you are sending signals to an antenna that could be many miles away (vs. a wifi antenna which is most likely within 100 feet or so). Plus, with 4G and 3G, you are possibly fighting millions of others for a spot from that tower, which helps drain the battery quicker. 4G drains faster than 3G because of a number of factors, including its larger data load.

Actually, people have been getting faster 4G speeds than WIFI. It's just that WIFI has a more stable connection, which helps your device achieve better battery life.

 

[Ryan32973]

Actually, people have been getting faster 4G speeds than WIFI. It's just that WIFI has a more stable connection, which helps your device achieve better battery life.

I have a great wifi system in my home and there are times the 4G was quicker but at the cost of a quicker draining battery.

 

[Zman1001]

That's not accurate, as your wifi SHOULD be the fastest and easiest way to get data. 4G and 3G expend so much battery life because you are sending signals to an antenna that could be many miles away (vs. a wifi antenna which is most likely within 100 feet or so). Plus, with 4G and 3G, you are possibly fighting millions of others for a spot from that tower, which helps drain the battery quicker. 4G drains faster than 3G because of a number of factors, including its larger data load.

It is always nice to pull quotes and spin it.

I apologize for not specifically stating that when I said faster AND more powerful was in reference to 4g vs 3g.

And you must have one heck of a home connection. For me, 4G is four times faster than wifi for me (based on speedtest.net) when I am at home.