What will it take to get you interested in a Pixel 4/4XL?

[mustang7757]

All these "rules" will go out the window once the pre-ordering begins.

That's always happens, I hope I'm not a sucker for pre-order

 

[ezdoit]

That's always happens, I hope I'm not a sucker for pre-order

That shipped sailed when the Oh So Orange P4 was announced.

 

[mustang7757]

That shipped sailed when the Oh So Orange P4 was announced.

 

[slave]

That orange is pretty, but it won't break me. This phone is missing the two most important features for me. That battery is crazy small. The price has to be perfect.

 

[Golurk]

That orange is pretty, but it won't break me. This phone is missing the two most important features for me. That battery is crazy small. The price has to be perfect.

From the leaks, these are mainstream features Google’s Pixel 4 will be lacking:

-ultra-wide camera
-All screen design
-Very fast charging
-In display fingerprint sensor
-Good battery life (P4 not P4 XL)

 

[cardboard60]

After I find out that for a year of problems with my Pixel 3 xl that I don't have wifi calling.

And it sounds like Google is not having the finger print sensor.
And they continue to be a year behind in their phones Hds.

Don't know if I want another pixel phone.

Now I need again to look for a good phone.

 

[Ben_70]

From the leaks, these are mainstream features Google’s Pixel 4 will be lacking:

-ultra-wide camera
-All screen design
-Very fast charging
-In display fingerprint sensor
-Good battery life (P4 not P4 XL)

How do you know it won't have very fast charging? I've seen no leaks that have addressed charging speed.

 

[ezdoit]

How do you know it won't have very fast charging? I've seen no leaks that have addressed charging speed.

We don't deal in facts here.

 

[slave]

It will have very fast charging. I believe that. The all screen display, that's trash as well. I need bezel to out my damn hand. I refuse to spend money on a punch hole or notch phone. The rest bugs me.

 

[mustang7757]

It will have very fast charging. I believe that. The all screen display, that's trash as well. I need bezel to out my damn hand. I refuse to spend money on a punch hole or notch phone. The rest bugs me.

What other phone you would consider?

 

[Jeremy8000]

Now, the P4 is rumoroed to coast more?? They removed the finger print reader and replaced it with a face chip, which I don't want to use, and that Soli chip that I can't see a reason why it even exists.

They finally bump up to 6GB of ram, FINALLY, and then make the stupid decision to go with that teeny battery and a 64GB phone, in 2019????

No. Not for more than $700 for the regular one, and that better be the 128. 128Gb is the minimum a phone should be in 2019. As for the XL, if it is $1 over $900, it's a hard pass until it's below $900.

Actually, the 128GB Pixel 4 is rumored to cost LESS than the 128GB Pixel 3.



I can understand being distraught by the removal of the traditional FPS, but honestly I prefer the idea of what should be a very fast and reliable face unlock over the many issues plaguing under-screen FPS.

I don't see the benefits of Soli just yet - I can't get super excited about waving my hand to change tracks yet. But I'm not prepared to dismiss it just yet - a technology that is as capable as Google has refined it to be (heck, it can count the number of cards in a deck?!) has enormous potential, if creative minds can implement solutions for it. One that occurs to me is possibly virtual typing.

I agree the smaller battery on the 4 seems odd (especially when the 4XL gets an upgrade), but until we know real world battery life with the final production units and software, I'm reserving judgement.

64GB has still been ample for me with the 3XL, and I've had no issues with 4GB RAM. I'd probably step up to 128GB this year, but can see where for the general consumer 64GB would still be fine (consider the fact that Apple still finds 64GB an acceptable starting point even on its iPhone 11 Pro Max). Oh, the entire crop of new iPhones come with 4GB RAM. Memory management greatly defines how much RAM you actually need. Apple sets a gold standard in how it should be done; Google, being least constrained by bloatware, should be able to manage with less than other Android OEM's, and at 6GB they are providing an over 50% increase in effectively available RAM for use (after accounting for the fact that there is the sizable amount reserved by the OS that doesn't change whether the unit has 4, 6, 8, etc).

The biggest thing I'd point to in consideration of all of the points you're staking value on is, you're looking at it like a parts list. If that's the case, go get a OnePlus 7t and be done with it. Certain to be a great phone that will give you a specs list you can recite at any time.

Where Google excels is in delivering a phone experience that is far greater than the sum of its parts. The challenge they face is in maximizing that experience, and overcoming the predisposition many have that a phone with lesser parts vs others in its price range cannot be worthy, though they've certainly done that year in and year out in the area of still photos.

 

[slave]

But android is sluggish with 4GB. I play Magic The Gathering: Puzzle Quest and Candy Crush. The iPhone is leaps and bounds better as Android needs more than 4Gb is pitiful ram.

The OnePlus 7T won't be updated like the Pixel does, but if they **** the bed with crazy prices, I will. I won't be held hostage by Google this time with Galaxy Note prices and Galaxy A20 specs.

 

[slave]

What other phone you would consider?

One Plus, ROG 2 and that's about it.

 

[Torisen1]

That shipped sailed when the Oh So Orange P4 was announced.

Yup, I can't resist the Orange and I had planned on waiting this year to see if they would have a Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal.

 

[EMGSM]

All these "rules" will go out the window once the pre-ordering begins.

You know it!!! It always happens with me.

 

[mustang7757]

One Plus, ROG 2 and that's about it.

Good choices

 

[Golurk]

One Plus, ROG 2 and that's about it.

The OnePlus 6/7 phones all have all screen designs with waterdrop notches...the industry as a whole is getting rid of bezels, so in a couple of years you will have a hard time choosing a phone.

 

[slave]

If that becomes reality, when all phones have notches, water drops and notches, I will deal with that when it gets here.

The One Plus is cheap, I can deal with that, I can also wait to see what the 4a does.

 

[dsignori]

....

Where Google excels is in delivering a phone experience that is far greater than the sum of its parts. ...

Well, it’s what they are TRYING to excel at anyway. Having certain “table steak” features contributes to that experience. Omitting them lessens it. For example:

- Taking longer to unlock your phone because you no longer offer an FPS worsens the user experience. I just bought an iPhone, and FaceID is not as fast or good as a FPS. we’ll see if Google can be as fast as Apple in this as well.

- Limiting base model storage and RAM lessens the user experience for some users.

There are many other examples (headphone jack, etc), but the point is that some of those “list” pieces help define the user experience for some.

I’ve owned a few Pixels, and I never really truly felt some great Google “experience” at all. Other than the camera (sometimes), I preferred the experience on my Note phones much of the time. I personally feel like this “Google experience” is a thing, but not nearly the thing it is portrayed to be - compared to other high end Android phones.

 

[cardboard60]

Well, it’s what they are TRYING to excel at anyway. Having certain “table steak” features contributes to that experience. Omitting them lessens it. For example:

- Taking longer to unlock your phone because you no longer offer an FPS worsens the user experience. I just bought an iPhone, and FaceID is not as fast or good as a FPS. we’ll see if Google can be as fast as Apple in this as well.

- Limiting base model storage and RAM lessens the user experience for some users.

There are many other examples (headphone jack, etc), but the point is that some of those “list” pieces help define the user experience for some.

I’ve owned a few Pixels, and I never really truly felt some great Google “experience” at all. Other than the camera (sometimes), I preferred the experience on my Note phones much of the time. I personally feel like this “Google experience” is a thing, but not nearly the thing it is portrayed to be compared to other high end Android phones.

Yep !