Why can't we get top specs in a normal Size???

[bp3dots]

Hey, if they want to charge for screen size like they do for memory, nothing wrong with that.... Better for me! No one is asking for Motorola to raise the price of the M to $299. But if a high end 4.8in is $299 on contract, then its equivalent little brother at 4.3in WITH THE SAME SPECS can sell for maybe $50 less. That reduced price shouldn't make the phone a mid range in any way shape or form. All we askin for is spec for spec in a smaller housing, that is it.

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They price phones based on specs, not the other way around. Screens have a diminishing cost increase as size rises, so, that's why the two don't see a big price difference with only that feature changed. Also, it's more expensive to engineer same performance in smaller space, it always has been.

 

[RicanMedic78]

They price phones based on specs, not the other way around. Screens have a diminishing cost increase as size rises, so, that's why the two don't see a big price difference with only that feature changed. Also, it's more expensive to engineer same performance in smaller space, it always has been.

I agree with that. N i think thats why they r quick to go large

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[nrm5110]

And the fact that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BUY THE LARGER PHONE

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[nrm5110]

In the first 100 days the galaxy s3 sold over 20 million units thats a massive number do you think a smaller version would do that

Gs2 sold roughly the same number but thats from its release to around the apple court case

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[bp3dots]

I agree with that. N i think thats why they r quick to go large

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Then, it should be easy to understand that when a manufacturer can produce a device with mass appeal, that they expect to sell well, they do. When they can put out a 4.7+ inch device for the same price (or close enough) as a 4 inch one, they understand which one will sell more, and make that one. Then, so as not to lose the customers who don't want such a large or expensive device they make smaller ones, and those have reduced (although still good) hardware in comparison.

 

[mcantu]

And the fact that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BUY THE LARGER PHONE

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did they have the option of buying a smaller phone of the same performance level? as this point, no Android user has had the option of choosing between 2 phones where the only difference is overall size (i'm not gonna say screen size anymore because with proper design engineering screens >/=4.3" can be put into phones that are 5" x 2.5" overall)

is there a point where the ergonomic minuses outweigh the benefits of larger screens?

 

[mcantu]

now that i think about it, what many are asking for is no different that what manufacturers already do in the HDTV industry.

each brand releases model lines of varying technology levels. Samsung for example has the 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 series (from lowest tech level to highest) of their HDTVs. in each of those series they have screen sizes of 23", 27, 32", 36", 40", 46", 52", 55" , etc.. The consumer chooses the tech level that meets their needs, then chooses the screen size that suites their viewing area/budget.

 

[nrm5110]

now that i think about it, what many are asking for is no different that what manufacturers already do in the HDTV industry.

each brand releases model lines of varying technology levels. Samsung for example has the 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 series (from lowest tech level to highest) of their HDTVs. in each of those series they have screen sizes of 23", 27, 32", 36", 40", 46", 52", 55" , etc.. The consumer chooses the tech level that meets their needs, then chooses the screen size that suites their viewing area/budget.

Not a profitable way to handle cell phones I wouldnt imagine

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[bp3dots]

now that i think about it, what many are asking for is no different that what manufacturers already do in the HDTV industry.

each brand releases model lines of varying technology levels. Samsung for example has the 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 series (from lowest tech level to highest) of their HDTVs. in each of those series they have screen sizes of 23", 27, 32", 36", 40", 46", 52", 55" , etc.. The consumer chooses the tech level that meets their needs, then chooses the screen size that suites their viewing area/budget.

Two entirely different industries. TV's have much higher profit margins, and its not nearly as risky to have tons of stock of them as it is for cellphones. The tech in TV's doesn't advance as fast, so you can sell older stock longer. And a host of other things make this comparison unrealistic.

 

[RicanMedic78]

And the fact that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BUY THE LARGER PHONE

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Because they have no choice!

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[bp3dots]

Because they have no choice!

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Samsung didn't force people to buy all those GS3's. If the size was truly too big for as many of those 20 million people as you seen to believe it is, they would've gone a different way. People are able to make the decision as to whether a device is usable for them or not. And, again, since you seem to want to keep ignoring it, people want phones that work for them. Period. If they were having that much trouble with phones that size, they would be returning them in droves, and you'd see complaints all over the place. That isn't happening. Accept that you are in the minority here and that, sadly, your market isn't one that is looked at as necessary for manufacturers to pursue.

 

[RicanMedic78]

Again, without an alternative for comparison, your argument has no merit. I mention the iphone because its the only comparible device spec wise that's available in 4in. You don't want to accept that either because you argue that its a different ecosystem. So you know what, idk what to tell ya! Lets agree to disagree. I want choice, you do not!

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[FishPharm]

I'm more shocked there is actually 14 pages in this discussion..lol. The only other thing that may be worth mentioning is the fact that each manufacturer is out to make as much money as possible. These phones didn't start out at 4.8 inches so I'm willing to bet that they have done the research and the research shows that more people want the bigger phones. I don't agree with the fact that some people are saying that the smaller phones cost more to make. Sure, if the phone is extremely small but I'm willing to bet that the bigger screens cost more to make.

 

[bp3dots]

I'm more shocked there is actually 14 pages in this discussion..lol. The only other thing that may be worth mentioning is the fact that each manufacturer is out to make as much money as possible. These phones didn't start out at 4.8 inches so I'm willing to bet that they have done the research and the research shows that more people want the bigger phones. I don't agree with the fact that some people are saying that the smaller phones cost more to make. Sure, if the phone is extremely small but I'm willing to bet that the bigger screens cost more to make.

Technically, theres probably 2 pages, the rest is likely all of us repeating ourselves haha. It's Friday night, I suggest we all go have some drinks and enjoy life out from behind our screens!
(Remember, put the phones down and be with your friends!)

Cheers!

 

[nrm5110]

Me and my bro playin borderlands 2

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[NoYankees44]

Exactly the problem. Most consumers don't care about hardware specs. They want a device that works for them. The majority of smartphone users can't tell you processor speed, number of cores, RAM, Storage, etc. This concept is undisputed, and is recognized by every tech professional.

When Joe Consumer goes shopping for a phone, and is presented with:

Phone A: Works for what they want to do, and is 4 inches, costing $200 (With contract discount)
and
Phone B: Works for what they want to do, and is 4.8 inches, costing $200

Most will pick B. The ones that don't will still buy A, REGARDLESS of if A or B is top of the line specs or not. To a manufacturer, that means the spending the time and money on development of high end, small phones isn't worth the payout. Carriers also see this, and they understand that the expensive, higher performance small devices sit on the shelf. (Rezound is one that jumps to mind quickly) They will not buy these handsets at 5-600 dollars a pop to have to sit on them until they devalue, and get sold for a loss. Of course, this does disappoint a small segment of users that really desire that particular combination, but the reality is that you can't please everyone all of the time.

Now, you will see smaller bezels and truer edge to edge screens eventually, which will shrink devices some, but there is currently a limit on how well you can do that.

But why would someone not choose the smaller, easier to use and manage phone instead of the huge battery hog? The argument is just as valid look at it from the other prospective.

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[RicanMedic78]

I too am taking the rest of the night off from repeated debate haha

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[nrm5110]

But why would someone not choose the smaller, easier to use and manage phone instead of the huge battery hog? The argument is just as valid look at it from the other prospective.

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Uuuuuuh was that even a valid debate point or the ramblings of someone whos losing

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[NoYankees44]

Uuuuuuh was that even a valid debate point or the ramblings of someone whos losing

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Ramblings? Maybe. Losing? If your definition of losing is giving up on someone ever being able to see a another point of view or valid points, then I guess I am.

I guess all of you will be calling for 10" phones within a year.

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[YourMobileGuru]

But why would someone not choose the smaller, easier to use and manage phone instead of the huge battery hog? The argument is just as valid look at it from the other prospective.

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And the majority of users dont think about that when they buy phones, and honestly not all large screen phone shave terrible battery life. I get great (relative to other Android devices) on the GS3 and OneX.