The points you made were terrible it was a rant and a baseless attack with nothing to back it up most of it was personal oppinion
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Why can't we get top specs in a normal Size???
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Right.. But that same phone with a smaller screen would have better battery life! Smdh!
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I dont think that necessarily the case there are tons of factors in play there and I dont believe size is one
Let me elaborate yes the size is a factor but your smaller phone I bet money will build up more heat if its running exactly the same ( all components in tighter space likely less heat dispersion)
Its more reasonable to think they would perform similarly but also battery performance can never be well guaged as usage varies day by day
The attached screenshot is a graph out of my battery over close to seven days the bottom being estimated % usage per hr
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YourMobileGuru
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Not necessarily, there are many factors that contribute to battery life, the screen is only one of them.
By your theory both the OneX and GSIII should have terrible battery life but they dont they have among the largest screens available but also have among the best battery lives I have seen (and if you look at the link in my sig you will see all the various phones I have had experience with). I have absolutely no problem lasting an entire day (not just a work day I mean from when I get up in the morning till I go to bed at night) on either phone unless I am doing a lot of streaming or app downloading.
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Lol... Ok sure! Look at any battery settings. Screen brightness and display settings makes up the bulk of battery usage. But u wanna defend big screens at all cost to justify the popularity? Lol. Android.... Is popular! Size? That's due to lack of choice! Its as simple as that!
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Well start putting out numbers if you want I can give you a detailed screens of my drops in a 1% increment times %/hr useage estimated times I can get down to my apps and whats using how much im not above providing data if you would like can you
To prove im not kidding
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To you perhaps its not anyones fault but your own if you cant be happy with whats available today I understand your wants but maybe an iPhone would in fact suit you better
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An android fan telling another to go to Apple since android has limitations! Wow
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Limitations are what you make of them you seem to believe that some of these decent smaller phones are crap just because they arent flagships when in fact they are great running devices also if you root the capabilities of said phone increase exponentially you are so stuck on hardware alone to realize software can create massive impacts on performance often eliminating any real issues you may "think" exist
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Im on a skyrocket its Qualcomm chip doesnt perform nearly as well as its counterpart sgs2 running on exynos but with the work devs have done my phone runs perfectly fine for me.
The Yamaha sound chip in this thing is utter garbage but guess what tweaking the alsa configurations built into android allowed for clear crisp audio.
Battery life stock is decent battery life rooted rom'd and tweaked I can go well through the day with proper usage.
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The Yamaha sound chip in this thing is utter garbage but guess what tweaking the alsa configurations built into android allowed for clear crisp audio.
Battery life stock is decent battery life rooted rom'd and tweaked I can go well through the day with proper usage.
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Ok... So lets follow that same philosophy with the big brother phones and lets see how good android ends up doing in a year from now. Cause u seem to be so quick to call a mid range device good enough, but when if comes to your 4.8, that doesn't apply
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Im on a 4.5in actually I didnt buy a gs3 and I didnt buy this phone for its screen size either
My entire point wasnt to stand up for either but point out why your wish has not been brought to fuition which you continue to believe im wrong somehow all I do is provide counterpoints to things I see as for lack of a better word... Off
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I picked this phone full well knowing it was not cream of the crop I bought it to utilize at&t's LTE network the processor at the time was very respectable has 1gig ram there was nothing mind blowing about the rocket when I bought it but it fit my budget and ran well I dont look for the top of the top I look for what fits my needs now the closest and I never worry about software thats on it as I go aosp off the bat I have had the Samsung moment the og evo the rocket and used several phones in between I know how to measure the worth of a phone on more than raw specs.
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As i said once before, i think the nature of this forum promotes "argument." thats why we have 35 pages of back n forth. Just remember, if options is the theme of this thread, its far easier to just agree with that sentiment and move on to the next topic, then to just bicker or gloat about what we can't have, yet u do. A high end 4in device is good for everyone, and it will sell. How much or how little, we may never know, as there's far too many factors to consider... carriers involved, build quality, design acceptance, marketing, which manufacturer will do it, etc.
But regardless of all that, the fact is that in todays spec race (and it is indeed a spec race) small doesn't exist in android elites. And size is not just some small nitch idea. Every area of electronics or any industry considers size when they make their products. Elite tvs dont just come in 60in. Even a quality shirt doesn't just come in large.
So the argument then becomes, will it sell.. And if u can point out 1 small high end device that didn't sell, i can give u your due. Since the iphone is the only device we have of this caliber (and its unfortunate that its under a different ecosystem), we have to use that to factor in our opinions here about said non existent device... Especially since that iphone is a best seller in the history of mobile! Sure a lot plays into that. I'm not denying that. But as of right now, that's all we have to go on. And i know personally that many people, including me, people in this thread, and including small handed folks and women as well, just want a top tier device in a compact size. And yes,we are part of the spec race as well as you. And if we liked apple so much, we'd just go there.. But we like android. And its a shame that the very same fanboys are the ones playing "na na na, na na, naaaa" with this very humble desire from its own fans in its own right.
My advice is that we all humble up and agree that choice is always a good thing in this industry and then promote it as these choices present themselves. A lot of consumer attitude is what steers manufacturers from holding back and preventing innovation from taking place. And i don't want to see that happen here. Then I'll REALLY end up going to apple at some point.
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But regardless of all that, the fact is that in todays spec race (and it is indeed a spec race) small doesn't exist in android elites. And size is not just some small nitch idea. Every area of electronics or any industry considers size when they make their products. Elite tvs dont just come in 60in. Even a quality shirt doesn't just come in large.
So the argument then becomes, will it sell.. And if u can point out 1 small high end device that didn't sell, i can give u your due. Since the iphone is the only device we have of this caliber (and its unfortunate that its under a different ecosystem), we have to use that to factor in our opinions here about said non existent device... Especially since that iphone is a best seller in the history of mobile! Sure a lot plays into that. I'm not denying that. But as of right now, that's all we have to go on. And i know personally that many people, including me, people in this thread, and including small handed folks and women as well, just want a top tier device in a compact size. And yes,we are part of the spec race as well as you. And if we liked apple so much, we'd just go there.. But we like android. And its a shame that the very same fanboys are the ones playing "na na na, na na, naaaa" with this very humble desire from its own fans in its own right.
My advice is that we all humble up and agree that choice is always a good thing in this industry and then promote it as these choices present themselves. A lot of consumer attitude is what steers manufacturers from holding back and preventing innovation from taking place. And i don't want to see that happen here. Then I'll REALLY end up going to apple at some point.
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YourMobileGuru
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You do realize that hardware wise (processor and ram) the "flagship" iPhones are roughly comparable to the mid range small screened Android devices that you are knocking, right? It wasn't till iPhone 5 that they got a full 1GB or ram, something every flagship Android phone has had for a year or more now. Shoot even the Blackberry 7phones had 1GB or ram a year and a half ago.
And the iPhone 5 is the best selling iPhone to date, largely due to Apple finally giving in and giving them a little bigger screen. And before you point out that all iPhones sell better than their predecessors I will tell you that the desire for a larges screen is something that iFans have wanted for years now and it is a significant deciding factor for people getting the 5 over the 4S.
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You do realize that the iphone only went from 3.5 to 4in right???? It kind of sounds like you don't realize that and only pay attention to the mere fact that it is now bigger.
This is now you sound... "see! The iphone increased its screen size by .5 to make it 4inches, therefore this is evidence that they saw the light and now i can totally justify my 4.8 Samsung Galaxy S3"
Quite a silly argument...
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YourMobileGuru
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You're hearing what you want to hear.
And with all due respect your arguments are the ones that are silly. Several of who SELL PHONES for a living (and therefore talk to a lot of customers) have explained to you again and again what we hear from customers but you dont want to hear it because it does not fit with your worldview. That is your choice of course but it wont change anything.
Customers want bigger phones, it's as simple as that. For some it is because phones are being used more and more for media, for others it is because they are easier to type accurately on now that physical keyboards are a niche, and for some it boils down to "bigger is better" for no logical reason at all.
Big screened phones sell, even at higher prices and specs. Small screened ones with high specs (and the corresponding higher price) simply dont sell as well. I'm sorry but that is just how it is. You can twist and argue that any way you like but it does not change that fact.
And with all due respect your arguments are the ones that are silly. Several of who SELL PHONES for a living (and therefore talk to a lot of customers) have explained to you again and again what we hear from customers but you dont want to hear it because it does not fit with your worldview. That is your choice of course but it wont change anything.
Customers want bigger phones, it's as simple as that. For some it is because phones are being used more and more for media, for others it is because they are easier to type accurately on now that physical keyboards are a niche, and for some it boils down to "bigger is better" for no logical reason at all.
Big screened phones sell, even at higher prices and specs. Small screened ones with high specs (and the corresponding higher price) simply dont sell as well. I'm sorry but that is just how it is. You can twist and argue that any way you like but it does not change that fact.
The iphone went up a half an inch (0.5). This is the same increment that you are having a problem with between the "big" phones that are out now and the one you desire. The iphone will get bigger but I'm sure they didn't want to go from 3.5 to 4.7 in one year. I predict they will stay at this size a year or two and go up again.
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When you name me the last high end 4incher that didn't sell well, then I'll concede to your point.
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When you show me 20 million people who want sgs3 on a 4 inch screen ill concede to your point
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