Why can't we get top specs in a normal Size???

[RicanMedic78]

I know I have previously stated that I don't care either way if they do or do not make the small superphone. I'm simply trying to explain the justification of why these companies aren't dedicating the resources to produce that type of phone.

I think it's a lot simpler than that. I think you're arguing just for the sake of arguing

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[badbrad17]

Everything is relative. In this case, relative to the human body. When a phone no longer becomes an effective communications tool, it becomes a nitch product. What's happening now is that the nitch product is the only thing available through ignorance. How do i know? Have i done market research? How about..... Because what I want is no longer available!

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Okay but aren't we all having to make some sacrifices in our decision to buy a phone? There isn't a perfect device. One is too slow or too big or doesn't have a removable battery or no sd card or no NFC etc. You say there is no phone that is perfect for your needs well join the club. Screen size is just a feature. You may have to pick a phone that doesn't have everything in order to get the size you want. I want a ips lcd phone with a removable battery and sd card. What are my options?

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[RicanMedic78]

Just because you want something, or something fits your preferences, does not remove it from the realm of niche. Sorry. You may have trouble communication with a larger phone, but millions or people don't, and are spending their money on them. Personally, I prefer driving a manual transmission car, which has devolved into a niche market here in the US. I don't go insisting that everyone else is buying automatics because that's what most cars are available with now.

People are enjoying the larger phones both because they make communication easier, and they improve media consumption ability. They are more versatile than smaller devices, and that is what helps them become the norm.

Insist all you want that there is a secret huge population that will pass up bigger phones for smaller ones, but there is no evidence. Even with the spec difference (something which doesn't even matter to the overwhelming majority of users) if big devices were so unusable for that many consumers, they wouldn't buy them. That's why OEM's are putting out small devices that will deliver very good performance for regular users. The small subset like you, who want super high end specs in small sizes, isn't part of that majority group.

One word for all that crap that you just spewed....

I... P... H... O... N... E...!!!

That's your proof my friend lol.

Stubborn heads i swear!

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[badbrad17]

What's laughable is your response and deflection of my second point. What is also laughable is that you honestly believe that ios users are all brain washed and continue to buy their products only because of the brand and not because they might actually like using them...

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I already have answered your point 20 times. Android isn't forcing anything on you in fact they are offering many smaller devices you just don't want to buy any of them. As stated in my last post, there is no perfect phone. They all are missing something for someone. Maybe one day we will have perfect harmony and get a manufacturer to make the same phone in 3 sizes but right now that isn't available.

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[badbrad17]

I would like to say that I think we are getting a bit heated. Let's all take a deep breath and not get personal. We all love tech and have different needs. The debates are good, I just don't want it to go over the top.

Thanks for everyones posts.

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[bp3dots]

I think it's a lot simpler than that. I think you're arguing just for the sake of arguing

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So, my points are just to argue, but your's are just right? Got it.

One word for all that crap that you just spewed....

I... P... H... O... N... E...!!!

That's your proof my friend lol.

Stubborn heads i swear!

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The iPhone has been addressed by several people in this thread. You just refuse to accept any view besides the one you've chosen, as evidenced by the fact that the only leg you have to stand on isn't even an Android situation.

 

[The Real X Dawg]

One word for all that crap that you just spewed....

I... P... H... O... N... E...!!!

That's your proof my friend lol.

Stubborn heads i swear!

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And everyone has said over and over again there is more to Apple's success than just the iPhone's size. Just to prevent typing out a long list "It just works!"

 

[badbrad17]

One word for all that crap that you just spewed....

I... P... H... O... N... E...!!!

That's your proof my friend lol.

Stubborn heads i swear!

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That wasn't very nice. I thought he made some good points. The iphone may be a good option for you but it's not for me. I had a HTC desire which was a 3.8in. I liked the phone and it even fit in my hand really well but I would not trade my larger phone for the smaller one. In fact I will definitely be buying a bigger one in the near future so I'm not sure why you feel like everyone should go to an iphone just to get a smaller screen. It's a preference. The Gnex wasn't the best spec'd phone available when it came out yet it still performs really well. New smaller phones that are available can out perform the Gnex so why not make this an option instead of the iPhone. In 6 months there will be new smaller devices that will have the S4 and be faster than the i5 so imo it really doesn't matter as much as you are making it out to be.

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[RicanMedic78]

Actually the iphone is not a good option for me either because as much as i like the size, i don't like the ios ecosystem. And actually i don't like the elongated way they made this current iphone. Looks like a twix candy bar.

But anyhow, after seeing jelly bean run on my tablet, i really would like to see a nexus superphone in 4-4.3 in. Plus, i highly benefit from home screen widgets and i love the pull down and notifications way better on Android. Also, contacts, email, calender, maps, for me its all google... This is why I'm frustrated at the current OEMs

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[nrm5110]

Then again for the third time address oem's with emails from all of these people that supposedly want a tiny superphone if you wanna change their thought process you gotta be willing to put the info out to the proper channels not androidcentral

Also quit bringing up the iPhone it only makes me think less of your ability to debate your argument as its your crutch and you know perfectly well that theres plenty of reasons these people buy iphones screen size aside their popularity is not based on that one fact not even close

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[nrm5110]

Then again for the third time address oem's with emails from all of these people that supposedly want a tiny superphone if you wanna change their thought process you gotta be willing to put the info out to the proper channels not androidcentral

Also quit bringing up the iPhone it only makes me think less of your ability to debate your argument as its your crutch and you know perfectly well that theres plenty of reasons these people buy iphones screen size aside their popularity is not based on that one fact not even close

Also im not against a smaller superphone im against your arguing points as they were terrible and get worse as we go we are making a point that it costs money to make these phones they arent going to build them if they wont sell like hotcakes

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[mcantu]

the iphone gets brought up because some make the argument that there is a physical limitation on having high end components in a device with a 4" screen. the existence of a device like the iphone shows that that is not the case

 

[nrm5110]

the iphone gets brought up because some make the argument that there is a physical limitation on having high end components in a device with a 4" screen. the existence of a device like the iphone shows that that is not the case

Nobody has made that argument in many pages we keep asking what prooves all these people want a small high end ANDROID phone and we keep seeing the word I... P... H... O... N... E... As if thats supposed to prove something thats comparing apples to pizza not even oranges

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[badbrad17]

the iphone gets brought up because some make the argument that there is a physical limitation on having high end components in a device with a 4" screen. the existence of a device like the iphone shows that that is not the case

But what do we consider high end? The HTC One S and Moto Razr M and other Evo phones are all very competent phones with great specs. I think this post originally started as a complaint that the flag ship phones were all big and the smaller phones were not measuring up to be the greatest. Yet after 3 months all hardware is dated, so I don't really see the point. All the people who currently have sgs3's will still be able to do everything they need to do even after the next truck load of quad core nexus phones arrives or the next sgs4 drops.

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[nitemancometh]

Because there wouldn't be enough to differentiate the models except the screen size. If you're telling me this phone costs $600 MSRP and the other one costs $500 but the only thing that's separating the two is half an inch of display which one do you think I'm going to buy?

And what of those who complain about 4 inches of display as a screen too big? Do you think they deserve a high end phone that's no bigger than my index finger?

At first I was skeptical about the Galaxy S III. My thick head thought even my giant hands couldn't handle a phone that's nearly 5" of display. Then, I realized that it's measured 4.8 diagonally. Meaning, they had managed to increase the width of the handset's display just a tad enough to allow the phone to still fit freely for just one hand to hold.

Some of these midrange phones are definite contenders and while I had wished the qHD res on my Droid Razr didn't project engrossing pixelated app icons I had to remind myself much like every other materialistic thing the world you have to pay more to get more.

 

[cormaster628]

It's no different than a $50 difference for 8 or 16gb of storage

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[NoYankees44]

Because there wouldn't be enough to differentiate the models except the screen size. If you're telling me this phone costs $600 MSRP and the other one costs $500 but the only thing that's separating the two is half an inch of display which one do you think I'm going to buy?

But the difference would be in the entire design of the phone. It would be big devise vs small device. It would not just be different screen with same case. That would be stupid. It would be same internals with different cases and screens. Not much else different though. Maybe memory options...

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[bp3dots]

But the difference would be in the entire design of the phone. It would be big devise vs small device. It would not just be different screen with same case. That would be stupid. It would be same internals with different cases and screens. Not much else different though. Maybe memory options...

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Exactly the problem. Most consumers don't care about hardware specs. They want a device that works for them. The majority of smartphone users can't tell you processor speed, number of cores, RAM, Storage, etc. This concept is undisputed, and is recognized by every tech professional.

When Joe Consumer goes shopping for a phone, and is presented with:

Phone A: Works for what they want to do, and is 4 inches, costing $200 (With contract discount)
and
Phone B: Works for what they want to do, and is 4.8 inches, costing $200

Most will pick B. The ones that don't will still buy A, REGARDLESS of if A or B is top of the line specs or not. To a manufacturer, that means the spending the time and money on development of high end, small phones isn't worth the payout. Carriers also see this, and they understand that the expensive, higher performance small devices sit on the shelf. (Rezound is one that jumps to mind quickly) They will not buy these handsets at 5-600 dollars a pop to have to sit on them until they devalue, and get sold for a loss. Of course, this does disappoint a small segment of users that really desire that particular combination, but the reality is that you can't please everyone all of the time.

Now, you will see smaller bezels and truer edge to edge screens eventually, which will shrink devices some, but there is currently a limit on how well you can do that.

 

[RicanMedic78]

Hey, if they want to charge for screen size like they do for memory, nothing wrong with that.... Better for me! No one is asking for Motorola to raise the price of the M to $299. But if a high end 4.8in is $299 on contract, then its equivalent little brother at 4.3in WITH THE SAME SPECS can sell for maybe $50 less. That reduced price shouldn't make the phone a mid range in any way shape or form. All we askin for is spec for spec in a smaller housing, that is it.

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[nrm5110]

Its like talking to brick walls in here

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