Why do most people hate TouchWiz?

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Keep in mind, I have little "hands on" time with TouchWiz, most of what follows is mostly based of what I have read rather then personal experience.

There are a number of people who hate TouchWiz, simply because that's what it appears is "cool". Kinda like it's "cool" to hate Apple. (I'll get back to this point later)

TouchWiz visuals DO need an update, I don't think anyone would argue if they updated the look of it to match the Holo (Ice Cream Sandwich and JellyBean) or KitKat look. I agree it's kinda ugly, but personally I'll take function over form. Sure I like things to look nice but they gotta work. If it doesn't work properly I don't care how good it looks! TouchWiz also tends to be really heavy on the phone's resources - high CPU and RAM usage. Part of this is understandable, but at the same time I'm curious. If you look at all the features available on TouchWiz, especially if you consider the Note 3 and all the S-Pen features - it's easy to see why the CPU has to work so hard, but at the same time Samsung is a HUGE company, and they've done really well with the Galaxy series and the Note series. With all the money they make I would think they could figure out how to re-write the code for TouchWiz in order to make it less "hungry" for lack of a better term. Are all those features needed or wanted? No, most people seem to try them out and turn them off... until they want to show off the "cool stuff" their phone can do. Some of them are useful, sure, but not nearly all of them. Many of them are pretty creative solutions to problems that aren't that big a deal - and it seems that even those creative solutions don't work consistently, which is another reason people like to hate on TouchWiz, If all the features worked 100% of the time, I think there'd be less people mocking TouchWiz.


So far, it seems the 3 biggest ones I read about are:
1) Ugly (agreed, but I'd rather drive an ugly car that is amazingly reliable then a beautiful shiny new one that needs constant repairs or maintainence)
2) Hungry (again, I agree. I don't know anyone who would rather have a bloated skin that sucks CPU and battery instead of one that's efficiant -- all features and everything else being equal)
3) Reliability (cool features that only work sometimes aren't that cool - and probably more annoying to try to use then ones that are simpler but work every time)

Lastly, a lot of people buy stuff because other people think it's cool. Or they avoid buying something because other people say it's not cool or it sucks or whatever. Nothing to do with appearance, functionality, reliability, or usefulness to the individual - but rather based off what people on the interwebz say is "cool" or "not cool". Going back to my first thought on Apple.

See, iOS is pretty awesome in and of itself. Its smooth, fast, reliable, and pretty dang efficient. The hardware (the phone) and the software (iOS) are designed to work together - instead of taking the base OS, slapping a skin and features on it, then building a phone that can hopefully keep up to it, which is what Samsung does with Android. But, a lot of Android fans seem to hate on iOS because it's cool to do - nothing to do with how good iOS is. Same thing has been happening with TouchWiz for the last year or so. It has become cool to hate on TouchWiz (and Samsung to a degree as well) simply because it's "cool" to do so. Nothing to do with the creativity in all the features, or anything else but simply because it's "cool"

Now, I will say Samsung could do a lot with it. They could update the look, re-code it for efficiency, and realize that consumers would rather have fewer features that work consistently then MORE features that work 68% of the time. Doing that would get a lot more people back onto Samsung's side - but the fact remains that people will always side with one product or service and "hate" another, simply because at that time product A is cooler then product B. Nothing to do with usefulness or features or reliability, but simply because by general consensus product A is cooler then product B. Look at clothing - a t-shirt is a t-shirt, yet if it has the label from Brand A rather then Brand B, somehow it's "cooler" - even if both t-shirts come out of the same factory!

Anyway - I've rambled on this far more then I thought I would. And just so you know where I stand, my current phone is a Galaxy Nexus - and I'm seriously considering a Samsung (with Touchwiz) as my next device. (Of course it depends on what's available and the reviews of any new devices). I've enjoyed the simplicity of a Nexus, but at the same time there's a lot of functionality that I've been missing that personally I think should have been part of the base OS.
 
Re: What's your opinion about touchwiz ?

I'm new to TouchWiz, I got my first Samsung phone (my GS4) back in July 1 2013.
I didn't have any problems getting used to TouchWiz and I actually like it very much.

Don't see why some people don't like it or even hate it, that's nonsense to me.

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dancing-bass, you make some very valid points and all of which I agree with. I do think that more and more people are starting to dislike OEM skins whether it's Sammy, HTC, Motorola, etc. and it's also why you are seeing the top OEMs release Google Play Edition phones. Unfortunately everyone can't afford $400 and up for a phone.

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Re: What's your opinion about touchwiz ?

dancing-bass , Touchwiz is more efficient than Stock Android.

Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition battery life tests are done, here are the results - GSMArena Blog
Battery tests for Exynos 5 Octa powered Samsung I9500 Galaxy S4 complete, here are the results - GSMArena Blog
Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 battery life tests updated with final firmware, check out the new scores - GSMArena Blog

Stock Android drains battery even faster.


Galaxy S4 S600 Touchwiz - 69h
Galaxy S4 GPE (S600 Processor) - 63h
Galaxy S4 Octa-Core Edition - 65h

GPE GS4 and S600 US version carry same chipset , So on fair comparison you get 6 hours more endurance rating on same test done.

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Reliability - Agreed

Storage ? Not sure because Samsung already moved their base model to 32GB with Note III , So I wouldn't bother about any bloat and also SD-card comes handy.
What I want is ability for user to remove those apps if he needs.
I don't mind Samsung giving 100 apps installed out of the box but they must allow user to remove them.

Contacts and Dailer apps should be unified again.It was so fast in gingerbread but slow after 4.x
Gallery also slow.
 
I'm not sure if the hate is truly for TW itself or the fact that Samsung ships phones with locked down TW Roms. Most of the draw to Android is the fact that it is more open and customizable, so why not start with a base level, stock experience and add those customizations as the USER sees fit? Samsung doesn't give us this option.

I personally think stock Android is phenomenal and never liked TW on my GS2, but I realize a lot of people do like it. If Samsung were to release a phone where you could just uninstall its TW features, and easily revert to stock, it'd probably get rid of a lot of the hate. Regular users would go about their business as usual, and people who desire a stock experience would be happy too.

Based on some articles on the Samsung/Google relationship though I wouldn't be surprised if (and I hope that) TW and all it's "gimmicky features" becomes a launcher or apps you get off the play store instead of baked into the ROM.
 
I personally think stock Android is phenomenal...

Do you use the MicroSD slot on your phone? The stylus? Neither one is supported by "stock Android".

I use Nova Launcher, so I never see any of the Touchwiz stuff. Going to stock android would kill a lot of the things I like about my GN3.
 
I hate Touchwiz because you could be doing nothing with all your applications closed and your phone will still have 1 GB of memory being used to keep Touchwiz working. Touchwiz is useless, redundant and hogs up the CPU / memory. It's trash.
 
I hate Touchwiz because you could be doing nothing with all your applications closed and your phone will still have 1 GB of memory being used to keep Touchwiz working.

Even if this was true, if you are doing nothing with all your applications closed, why would you care how much memory is being used?


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I prefer to keep the Touchwiz framework and use a different home launcher like Nova. I keep Touchwiz because I like some of the extra features (Note 3 you need TW to use the S-Pen stuff) and then currently I'm using Nova to customize my layout the way I like it.

I think that most of us are mainly referring to the interface when we talk about our view of TW. I know I am. I'm in a TW ROM with Go Launcher as we speak.

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Touchwiz uses 1GB of memory with all other applications closed. Touchwiz bogs down the phone and many of its features are useless or redundant with what Android already offers. My Note 3 is the last Samung phone I'll own if they continue to use Touchwiz.

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Its the "in" thing to do as in hate it. Most people read what others have written and automatically feel they must hate it also.

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Its the "in" thing to do as in hate it. Most people read what others have written and automatically feel they must hate it also.

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That's sad, I just straight up don't like Samsung phones

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Touchwiz to me is the off-screen home/menu/back/buttons, the very logical tabbed settings menu and notification panels and easy home screen layouts.

In another thread about ram, it will use ram if it is available, so its not like Windows. Even though something may be beavering away in the background, it does not affect battery performance.

I hate the barebones, enthusiast only Android interface. It's a customisers dream, but I currently like the polished finished product feel Samsungs from 4.1 exude, and it's more attractive to newcomers in their Tab tablets.

Sure there are regular hiccups and glitches, but I have shutdown a lot of unused Samsung and Google bloatware without penalty, and am getting even more stellar battery life compared to my GS2.

I may try launchers again, but I will stick with TouchWiz.

Some like to strip their car - sorry - phone down to the metal and start from scratch using the excellent screen and hardware, but it's not for me.

It's a phone, a set of tools and a life manager.

If I want to customize something I will do it next on a pc when I can afford it.

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Btw - I had two threads going on high ram usage, and whether any early GN3's have slowed down, and apparently they are fine.

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Touchwiz uses 1GB of memory with all other applications closed. Touchwiz bogs down the phone and many of its features are useless or redundant with what Android already offers. My Note 3 is the last Samung phone I'll own if they continue to use Touchwiz.

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This is a good article. It helps everyone to understand that Android isn't Windows so it isn't exactly alike.

I personally never look at my RAM (except now I'll look due to this thread) and my phone runs beautifully. I use Nova Launcher but mainly because I like how Nova operates... Even with using Nova you can see (below) that I'm using a good amount of RAM... Music going, tether, texting, syncs, etc.. And still everything is great :).

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And yet, you still hang out on a Samsung Phone forum. Hmmm....

Hang out or just came up in the unread thread. Good job guy.

Oh sure. With hundred and hundreds of new posts every day, you just decided to start reading the ones about a phone you want us to believe you don't like. Listen, its a safe place here. We all love our GN3, and we don't judge you for loving it too.

By the way, wicked cool profile pict. It makes you look totally awesome. Not like a poser at all.
 
That's sad, I just straight up don't like Samsung phones

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Yes, because Motorola is better with their subpar processors, sealed battery, and no expandable storage. I guess to each their own though.

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