Why do most people hate TouchWiz?

[BOSSY TEXAS CHICK]

This is too funny. You are commenting on TouchWiz UI when the LG UI is a bad TouchWiz copy turned up 200%, and is really ugly. LOL. I guess you had to come here to see what all the fuss was about as the LG Pro forum is pretty dead.

Nope, whats too funny is that you are one of the sheep who think LG copies Samsung becuz that's what you "heard"...The actual truth of the matter is that both Samsung & LG contract out much of their software design from companies like Pantech, but it seems LG is much better at implementing the features, hence, no lag, stutter. force closes, etc. And what's even too funny "ier" is that you missed the point of the question: I hate Touchwiz, and I am a "people" so I don't think I need an "invite" to answer it....


(that's you "told" btw

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[JoeyyNY]

Well... What happen here? Thread started out perfectly fine..

Sent From My Lighting Fast Galaxy Note 3 & Galaxy Note 8.0.

 

[Donvald]

I think the point has been well made: as a comparison, although across the globe, Windows is likely to be present on very old and spec defiant hardware, as a consequnce of this it may be true that globally, people's experience of Windows is poor. This has no bearing on the actual Windows software and shouldn't be used as a means to undermine the software. Android can run on many types of mobiles and does. People buy their mobiles dependant on a number of factors; for many globally, their first priority will be cost and this will mean that their experience will be compromised. Again, it is foolish in my opinion, to use this experience to judge an OS or Manufacturer skin.

Anyone can play the game of - Insert consumer gadget - is rubbish. Especially if you ignore the high end market. Cars, Microwaves, Mobiles, Computers etc all create a poor user experience if you only rely on the low to middle end and consumer experiences with them.

But what many here that claim that Touchwiz is laggy etc don't seem to realise is that those who simply due to finance don't have access to the high end devices, will never have a way of comparing their experiences. What you may call laggy, they consider just a fact of life when using a mobile device and find tolerable. Just like a Fiat Punto driver doesn't really care how much horsepower and responsiveness they are missing out on by not driving a porche.

The facts are, Touchwiz is a success story, people like their gimmicks, like their features and don't mind the so-called 'lag' that some point to. Samsung add and tweak each iteration of Touchwiz on their high end devices and people keep coming back for more. This is the differentiator folks; Touchwiz. Most high end devices hardware wise are the same or even superior to Samsung Touchwiz devices. And guess what? They are the best selling Android Manufacturor by many factors.

The facts are, people don't hate Touchwiz. They enjoy it.

 

[MrMLK]

Samsung add and tweak each iteration of Touchwiz on their high end devices...

I just don't understand why they think its a good idea to have the same size grid on a 4 inch phone as on a 5.7 inch phone. The Note series shows they know that people want more information on the display. Why doesn't that knowledge make it to the launcher?

 

[Donvald]

I just don't understand why they think its a good idea to have the same size grid on a 4 inch phone as on a 5.7 inch phone. The Note series shows they know that people want more information on the display. Why doesn't that knowledge make it to the launcher?

Again, this goes back to the broader user base vs a few select people. How much is your opinion represented? I'm sure Samsung investigate use and make changes where its wanted by the broader consumer base. Anyone who has a particular need in this case, will just tweak their device accordingly, by ROM, by launcher etc. As long as you buy their mobiles, I don't think Samsung is that concerned.

 

[MrMLK]

Again, this goes back to the broader user base vs a few select people. How much is your opinion represented? I'm sure Samsung investigate use and make changes where its wanted by the broader consumer base.

The Galaxy Note series is not part of their broader consumer base, and yet they have made all sorts of software changes to support its unique features. They have added pen specific functions to the device, even though the broader consumer base doesn't care about the stylus. They do that because the stylus is a piece of hardware that is specific to the Note series and gets special treatment because of that. I just wish they recognized that the giant screen is also a a piece of hardware that is specific to the Note series and gave it some special treatment as well.

As long as you buy their mobiles, I don't think Samsung is that concerned.

Perfectly true, but not relevant to this discussion. This discussion is about "Why do people hate Touchwiz?" I hate it because it isn't optimized to take advantage of the giant screen on my Note. Well, not hate, but you get my point.

 

[Donvald]

The Galaxy Note series is not part of their broader consumer base, and yet they have made all sorts of software changes to support its unique features. They have added pen specific functions to the device, even though the broader consumer base doesn't care about the stylus. They do that because the stylus is a piece of hardware that is specific to the Note series and gets special treatment because of that. I just wish they recognized that the giant screen is also a a piece of hardware that is specific to the Note series and gave it some special treatment as well.

Again, you claim to speak on behalf of the broader consumer base as though you know. Where do you get that people who buy the note don't care about the stylus? A gut feeling? They gave the Note screen attention when they introduced the multi-window function first to it.

Perfectly true, but not relevant to this discussion.

Its just as relevant as breaking down aspects of Touchwiz as you have asked in your questions.

This discussion is about "Why do people hate Touchwiz?" I hate it because it isn't optimized to take advantage of the giant screen on my Note. Well, not hate, but you get my point.

I repeat: As long as you buy their mobiles, why would they care about making changes to Touchwiz? If you really want to do something about the icons on screen then simply download a rom that does it. There are plenty at least for the Note 2. I expect there will be ones similarly for the Note 3 in short time if not already.

 

[Golfdriver97]

A different launcher should allow altering the grid size of both the app drawer and home screens.
Nova will.

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[MrMLK]

Again, you claim to speak on behalf of the broader consumer base as though you know. Where do you get that people who buy the note don't care about the stylus? A gut feeling?

I think you are missing my point. I didn't say that most people who buy the Note don't care about the stylus. I said the broader consumer base doesn't care about the stylus. I believe this to be true because the broader consumer base doesn't have a stylus. The Note is not part of the broader consumer base, it is a high-end specialty device.

Samsung has come out with a specialty device with specialty hardware. In some cases (ie the stylus) they have made changes to their standard Touchwiz software to account for the differences. In the case of the screen, they made some changes (ie Mutliwindow) but they missed a feature that is important to me (a 5x5 or 6x6 grid on the home screen). The fact that they did this for - to them - very good reasons, doesn't make me like Touchwiz any more.

Its just as relevant as breaking down aspects of Touchwiz as you have asked in your questions.

I suspect you are confusing me with someone else in this thread. Having said that, on a thread about why people hate Touchwiz, "breaking down aspects of Touchwiz" is relevant to the conversation, while why Samsung doesn't make it differently is probably not.

I repeat: As long as you buy their mobiles, why would they care about making changes to Touchwiz? If you really want to do something about the icons on screen then simply download a rom that does it. There are plenty at least for the Note 2. I expect there will be ones similarly for the Note 3 in short time if not already.

I don't like custom Roms or rooting. I do use a different launcher.

But can you understand that if the OP asked "Why do people hate touchwiz?", the answer "simply download a rom" is not answering the question, while "I don't like all the dead space on the home screen" is answering the question?

 

[MrMLK]

A different launcher should allow altering the grid size of both the app drawer and home screens.
Nova will.

I use Nova and I love it. But, if I could alter the grid size in Touchwiz, I probably wouldn't bother. Well, I am used to it now so I would probably keep using it, but I probably wouldn't have used it in the first place.

 

[zt14427]

Re: Why does almost everyone dislike TouchWiz? I'm just really really curious...

The thing I don't like about touchwiz is that on the new Samsung Galaxy S4 it lags. It lags on a device with good specs. Apps lag during opening. And I think the UI doesn't look good. Why? Because the clock font doesn't look nice to me. The cartoon background of the clock doesn't look goo to me. I'm not a fan of the app drawer interface, I don't like all the widgets Samsung gives to you. TW, IMO, is a cluttered mess. The TW lock screen doesn't have a good unlock mechanic either. TW lacks a clean feel. TW lacks a professional feel. TW is asymmetric.

Touch Wiz is laughable
Big Papa Joe, world's biggest TouchWiz Fan - The Vergecast (clip) - YouTube

Just my two cents, please don't hate, just an opinion.

 

[Mike Churcher]

Re: Why does almost everyone dislike TouchWiz? I'm just really really curious...

I have had my galaxy note 3 for one week.....got my home screen set up, figured out chrome and how to add and see my bookmarks
then my phone suddenly got hung up on TouchWiz. I had never used it before. It took me awhile to get out of it by constant rebooting, trying
to disable Touchwiz. My homepage and settings were toast. I will take my phone back to Bell tomorrow and if they can't help me
blow up Touchwiz, I will return the phone and go back to a Blackberry.

 

[JeffDenver]

Re: Why does almost everyone dislike TouchWiz? I'm just really really curious...

I have had my galaxy note 3 for one week.....got my home screen set up, figured out chrome and how to add and see my bookmarks
then my phone suddenly got hung up on TouchWiz. I had never used it before. It took me awhile to get out of it by constant rebooting, trying
to disable Touchwiz. My homepage and settings were toast. I will take my phone back to Bell tomorrow and if they can't help me
blow up Touchwiz, I will return the phone and go back to a Blackberry.

Get a Moto X or Nexus 5 instead.

 

[shanghaichica]

Re: Why does almost everyone dislike TouchWiz? I'm just really really curious...

I know some hate touchwiz but I quite like it. I've used it on 3 phones and a tablet and have no problems with it. At the moment I can't see myself using an android device made by another OEM. I had a nexus 7 last year but got rid of it after a month as I didn't like stock android.

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[Anton Horn]

I used to think that TouchWiz was stock Android (back then I didn't even know about it), but when I reviews an Android ICS launcher (I added a screenshot of touchwiz), the dev replied to say that I was on an OEM ROM- in this case TouchWiz- and a screenshot of Android- in this case ICS-, I was SO cross the next day, just looking at grey and grey-blue shaded buttons, and, of course, wanting to get stock Android on my device, I saw many launchers ( how can i say this, about 23), some looking-like but with very little customization, some not at all and the plain useless, I then saw Nova launcher, my hero, now its my favorite part of this tablet, I'm keeping it, until I get the new Nexus 5 or 7 or 10! So basically, overall, I HATE (As in HATE) TOUCHWIZ! =TouchWiz :'( :-( :-! &#%%@&#%@&?$??^????℅?℅℅?? Stock Android YAY YAY YAY ♥♥♥❇❇❇✴✴✴✳✳✳♥♥♥‼‼‼

 

[tdbarlow]

In my personal preference...

I like Touchwiz and all the cool features it has to offer but I can also see why people dislike it, hate's a bit strong, but disliking I can understand. It does come with a lot of bloatware which can't be easily uninstalled without roat access. Its less of a problem due to samsung devices having expendable memory but I myself dont like having apps lingering about that I'll never use. Tw also has a very distinctive look and feel, some say its "ugly". I dont think its the best looking UI androids ever seen as there are elements which look a bit odd, out of place, extreme or just wrong e.g. colour scheme, but I dont think its too bad. I prefer the look of touchwiz over IOS7 for instance but of course that is all a very subjective opinion. At least those using touchwiz have the option to change how it looks quite easily by installing a third party launcher. It wont remove or change ui element's such as the harsh green toggles from the notification shade, but I've gradually gotten used to them and their functionality is great. Then theres performance issues which people experience when using touchwiz, whilst Ive never had any lag on my s4, (i turn off all animations) I can see why people find this an issue and therefore are put off from using touchwiz. Although there are problems with tw, it does have many great advantages such multi-window, which I use all the time with YouTube. Some of its features are a admittedly gimmicks but then again others I find myself not being able to live without (slight exaggeration but they are very useful to me). I also think touchwiz has improved a lot lately, especially over the last year, so I think some people speak their opinion based on tw how it used to be.

 

[RexdaleNap]

Re: In my personal preference...

Laggy, crashes, lack of options. I turn off animations, and root however, it does look the best. I still use touchwiz home as my launcher albeit heavily modified.

 

[FBA]

The cartoonish UI and the dreaded LAG which touchwhiz enables is the reason many have developed passionate hate for Touchwhiz.

I believe that would be Touch Wiz EZ - not Touch Wiz. Touch Wiz doesn't use the cartoonish UI or icons, or am I missing something?

This is what I have on my home screen for Touch Wiz



That said - I do prefer Nova, but TW isn't all that bad!

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

What's your opinion about touchwiz ?

I like touchwiz for functionality but don't like design of it.Its ugly

I think Touchwiz performs very excellent but feels slow because of bad frame rates but in reality its same speed as stock Android.


I like so many options they give under settings for every app and also settings etc.
For example , Many browsers offer reading mode and leave it like that but Samsung's browser gives option of night mode inside reader which is pretty nice during night time usage.
I have used tonnes of gallery apps but none of them given option to have background music while slideshow but Touchwiz does (only other devices I see are iOS devices for which that feature was added recently)
Music Player shows embedded lyrics (i.e lyrics which are pasted into original music file itself so that Its offline)

I generally prefer iOS for having all basic functions but Touchwiz takes those basics to another level by adding even better options.

Those small things add up to a very nice user experience to me.

When I started using Android 5 months back , I used Chrome , Quickpic , Alarm Clock etc. so many 3rd party apps but now I am using almost every Samsung app (except S-voice) because 3rd party apps all lack basics at one place or other.Those 3rd party apps are pain to use as well because of design inconsistencies.

One app has x features but misses y feature , other app has both x and y features but no z feature etc.

Only thing I am waiting for is aesthetic redesign of Touchwiz.Apart from that , I have no complains.

Hardware also , Samsung gets it "RIGHT".
When I say about SD-slot and removable battery , people say that SD-slot is waste and Cloud is a way to go but when I say that Samsung also gave me 50GB dropbox for cloud , they go speechless
There is Galaxy S2 in home which needs battery replacement because it got exhausted but still good for typical day's usage , do you know replacement cost ? $12 yep that's right official Samsung battery.

Do you know how much they asked for my iPod Touch battery replacement ? over $100 + 14 working days time (after shipping charges)

That's why those basic hardware things are important for me.
As long as they make feather weight devices and thin , I am not bothered with plastic.

 

[flybub]

Re: What's your opinion about touchwiz ?

Touchwiz needs to be slimmed down, there is no reason it should take up over 8gb of memory. Because of everything that is going on with TW it slows the phone down opening some of the core apps. Example would be the phone app. A very basic and important app, I shouldn't have to wait for it to load a dialer or my contact list. The other would be opening shortcut apps from the lock screen. It drives me crazy that when I open something like messages from my lock screen that it goes to my home screen first then opens the app. Why can't it jump right into the app. Little things like that make me dislike TW. But there are things such as the SD card and removable battery that get me to tolerate it. All of the eye detection and hand gesture gimmicks can go to the curb. If Sammy would slim TW down to where it is the speed of stock android but still incorporate a few of their own little things they actually did well they would have an amazing device. The Note 3 is about as close to the speed of stock android as I've seen from Samsung but the chances of me carrying a phone that big are non existent.

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