why does the marshmallow update suck

[Inders99]

And since you have a house full of Apple products that work perfectly I'm sure to will be rushing right over to the various Apple forums to help out?

Thing is that I'd be no help, nothing's ever gone wrong so I have no troubleshooting experience.

 

[Inders99]

I'm an aerospace engineer. Now you see where my madness comes from LOL. Six Sigma is huge in Aerospace.

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Airframes or power?

I've had plenty of Six Sigma along with some in-house proprietary process training programs. Interesting stuff with many applications...however I've seen it fail without buy-in from the top. Clearly some of the Android roll-outs with updates are done without rigorous testing.

 

[Inders99]

And three what are Apple Fanpeople doing in an Android forum!?

I own an Android, always have.

 

[Im Broken]

So the Nexus 6P ran like a dream but Android got it so wrong? Interesting.

Google provides a pure Android experience on Nexus devices. The number of devices are limited just like what Apple does.

Read my first post ITT. I put a lot of blame on carriers and manufacturers but you can't deny Google set these problems up from the beginning. The Chrome OS model should have been followed. We would all be having consistent experiences across all devices if that was the case.

 

[tardus]

I hate to agree with this but I'm really getting fed up with all the Android nonsense. Janky, settle in, wonky, factory reset, battery... If I hear those words anymore my head is going to explode. Apple puts out a super stable ENCRYPTED device using 1/2 the hardware and its almost "janky" free. I want to blame the carriers and manufacturers but Google set all this up the way they designed Android. Why are Chromebooks so awesome and Android such garbage? Anyway - I downgraded back to 5.1 and decided to root because MM was so bad. I made some small tweaks and debloated and its 1000% better. Might want to look into that solution.

It's easy enough to encrypt your G4. Your battery needs to be at 80% and it takes less than 10 minutes. Starting with Marshmallow, new devices are shipped encrypted from what I've read.

 

[Im Broken]

Try it and see how it drags. I was told MM took advantage of AES hardware acceleration but my phone ran like *** when I encrypted it.

 

[itguyjax8430]

Everyone do a factory reset and then lets reconvene. I personally do a factory reset after any major update, It just has become a habit for me. Most people might not want to do it but 99% of the time if prevents any issues from coming up and fixes any issues that people have after an update.

All of the time spent searching for answers to troubleshoot, posting on forums and waiting for answers, and whatever else is researched. A factory reset and restoring all everything back will have taken 1/10th effort. That is they way I look at it.

 

[Murph5150]

Airframes or power?

I've had plenty of Six Sigma along with some in-house proprietary process training programs. Interesting stuff with many applications...however I've seen it fail without buy-in from the top. Clearly some of the Android roll-outs with updates are done without rigorous testing.

Mainly airfoils. We do the GE 106 turbine from start to finish.

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[JayWill]

Everyone do a factory reset and then lets reconvene. I personally do a factory reset after any major update, It just has become a habit for me. Most people might not want to do it but 99% of the time if prevents any issues from coming up and fixes any issues that people have after an update.

All of the time spent searching for answers to troubleshoot, posting on forums and waiting for answers, and whatever else is researched. A factory reset and restoring all everything back will have taken 1/10th effort. That is they way I look at it.

That's exactly the beef Inders has, that an owner shouldn't be expected to have to factory reset after an update to have a device perform as expected, a premise I agree with, even though I tend to do the same thing as you. But I'm a tinkerer. Not everyone is nor should it be required as part of owning an Android device.

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[itguyjax8430]

That's exactly the beef Inders has, that an owner shouldn't be expected to have to factory reset after an update to have a device perform as expected, a premise I agree with, even though I tend to do the same thing as you. But I'm a tinkerer. Not everyone is nor should it be required as part of owning an Android device.

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I completely understand his reservation of doing a factory reset. Sometimes it is just needed. I can say that iOS is the same way when a major update comes. It is hit or miss on whether the install goes well. I had to reset my wife's iPhone 6 after one of her updates. The sound on her phone would stop working every other day, she would have to reboot the phone to get it to work. After a factory reset it was fixed and her iPhone 6 worked perfectly. I personally look at it as, how much time should I waste on an issue when it can be resolved with a reset.

 

[Inders99]

I personally look at it as, how much time should I waste on an issue when it can be resolved with a reset.

There are quite a few posts here stating that the FDR did not help at all. I'm probably going to do it at some point but not thrilled about it. I lost some info the last time I did it and generally that data is stuff I need for the business.

 

[itguyjax8430]

There are quite a few posts here stating that the FDR did not help at all. I'm probably going to do it at some point but not thrilled about it. I lost some info the last time I did it and generally that data is stuff I need for the business.

I gotcha. Well good luck, just make sure to triple check that you backed everything up before you do the FDR. There are some good apps out there that can help with the back up. I personally use SMS Backup & Restore, they added the call log in to it as well. I just used it to transition to my Galaxy S7 Edge and it worked like a charm as usual. Just make sure to check all the things you want backed up and make sure to move it to your PC or SD Card. I just upload it to my Dropbox and then download it after my reset.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...eshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en&token=vziwOxCJ

 

[benchph]

Holding out on the MM update for now. Still running Lollipop.

 

[JayWill]

It might be worth noting here that I personally didn't perform an FDR after updating to MM and my G4 has been running beautifully for the past month. What's the difference between some of you and me? No friggin clue. But I would bet it has to do with saved data settings, both at the system and individual app level. Something about your saved data isn't playing nice with MM, while mine is. This one of the reasons FDRs can often solve the problem. A clean slate, and the same reason reinstalling Windows or OSX on a computer often improves performance or solves OS problems.

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[Way Guy]

Ok so can we stop fighting about android vs apple because thats a fight that no one will win. Fact of the matter is some phones are acting up and we are looking for a fix. I installed the marshmallow update a month ago and had no issues until this weekend when my phone went from lasting 105 hrs on a charge to lasting 16hrs without being touched. I looked at what used all the battery power and it showed 80% was android OS. I did a factory reset and am still experiencing bad battery life and android OS taking the vast majority of it. Is there any helpful advise other than androids suck, because i love my G4 and would never switch to apple.

 

[itguyjax8430]

Ok so can we stop fighting about android vs apple because thats a fight that no one will win. Fact of the matter is some phones are acting up and we are looking for a fix. I installed the marshmallow update a month ago and had no issues until this weekend when my phone went from lasting 105 hrs on a charge to lasting 16hrs without being touched. I looked at what used all the battery power and it showed 80% was android OS. I did a factory reset and am still experiencing bad battery life and android OS taking the vast majority of it. Is there any helpful advise other than androids suck, because i love my G4 and would never switch to apple.

Do you have Google Now setup or Location history turned on? Those could be causing some issues, they might just need to be reset.

 

[tardus]

Try it and see how it drags. I was told MM took advantage of AES hardware acceleration but my phone ran like *** when I encrypted it.

My G4 (main memory not sd) is encrypted and no drag. But I don't play games on my phone.

 

[Way Guy]

No dont have google now i disabled google+ and dont have any location services turned on.

 

[tardus]

There are quite a few posts here stating that the FDR did not help at all. I'm probably going to do it at some point but not thrilled about it. I lost some info the last time I did it and generally that data is stuff I need for the business.

I think there are two ways to do it, assuming the G4 not rooted.

1. Do factory reset and reinstall all apps manually. Use SMS backup and restore for call logs and messages. Some (possible all) settings will have to be re-entered.
2. Use LG Backup & restore - make a backup, restore to factory settings, and then let Google do restore followed by using LG Backup & restore to restore. This got 99%+ of everything working. No need to re-enter settings.

I did the second method after using Marshmallow for about two weeks. I got moderate improvement. Maybe the first way would have better results. But I won't do that - too much time required. I'm still hoping that an update will be available that will set things straight with the battery.

 

[Way Guy]

I called LG they said it might be a battery malfunction but im not convinced of that. They are however sending me a free battery to help diagnose if that is in fact the problem. Otherwise i will have to send it in for a repair. according to them. So if you have any other advise i would love to hear it. Is there a way to downgrade back to lollipop. Just to see if it is in fact MM that is causing the OS to over use battery power?