Why people don't like the fact that Apple is using Android features in iOS 7

[jeno27]

Once APPLE Os was good... now total copy of our android... shameful os..ios

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[JHBThree]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)

"The world's first publicly available LTE service was launched by TeliaSonera in Oslo and Stockholm on December 14, 2009."

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Publicly available. Since you like to date things before they're available for the public, we might as well do the same for LTE.

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[JHBThree]

"In some form?" Explain please?

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Lte was being developed in 2002.

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[vasekvi]

And what the rest of us are trying to open your eyes to is the fact that android does EXACTLY THE SAME THING. So the high and mighty attitude you're showing only speaks to how asinine the argument you're making really is.

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We can do without the needless adjectives. If you want to infer what my attitude is then that is your own issue.

Apple designs the hardware and the software. I'm talking about innovation. Which apple lacks. And this is in their hardware and their software. Sure competing manufacturers and OS developers may borrow popular features from each other. But my question still remains. What has apple done lately that is so revolutionary? They may have had the most impact in the smartphone the way we know it today, but they did not invent the smartphone. Handset manufacturers who make handsets with android or even other operating systems consistently introduce new features before apple. Apple may be the leader in marketshare, but not with innovation.

I love the GS3 ads. The next big thing is already here. With an Apple, you may get it next time. Or the time after.

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[Ry]

Sort of but not really. The android of 2003 was a blackberry clone. (And using your logic, the iPhone has existed since the 90s when apple began R&D on it)

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Not to mention Android was originally conceived as a camera OS.

 

[Ry]

We can do without the needless adjectives. If you want to infer what my attitude is then that is your own issue.

Apple designs the hardware and the software. I'm talking about innovation. Which apple lacks. And this is in their hardware and their software. Sure competing manufacturers and OS developers may borrow popular features from each other. But my question still remains. What has apple done lately that is so revolutionary? They may have had the most impact in the smartphone the way we know it today, but they did not invent the smartphone. Handset manufacturers who make handsets with android or even other operating systems consistently introduce new features before apple. Apple may be the leader in marketshare, but not with innovation.

I love the GS3 ads. The next big thing is already here. With an Apple, you may get it next time. Or the time after.

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What's so revolutionary about going from an S1 to an S2 to an S3. Evolutionary.

My view - take a step back. "Innovative" is one of the most overused words in this industry. People mad about Apple calling what they do innovative? Well you're really getting mad a marketing.

BTW, Android is the leader in OS marketshare. And Samsung alone makes more phones than Apple.

 

[Ry]

This thread is discussing things apple is borrowing from android despite their lawsuits for patent infringement. My thoughts are, apple does really know how to implement something very well for the most part. They have a great product. All I'm saying is that I don't hardly ever see them breaking new ground.

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Look deeper into the lawsuits. They get more specific than what you probably think.

 

[anon5664829]

We can do without the needless adjectives. If you want to infer what my attitude is then that is your own issue.

Apple designs the hardware and the software. I'm talking about innovation. Which apple lacks. And this is in their hardware and their software. Sure competing manufacturers and OS developers may borrow popular features from each other. But my question still remains. What has apple done lately that is so revolutionary? They may have had the most impact in the smartphone the way we know it today, but they did not invent the smartphone. Handset manufacturers who make handsets with android or even other operating systems consistently introduce new features before apple. Apple may be the leader in marketshare, but not with innovation.

I love the GS3 ads. The next big thing is already here. With an Apple, you may get it next time. Or the time after.

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The GS3 ads are pathetic

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[return_0]

Publicly available. Since you like to date things before they're available for the public, we might as well do the same for LTE.

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Lte was being developed in 2002.

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The question was which OS phone was the first with LTE, not when LTE development began.

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[anon5664829]

The question was which OS phone was the first with LTE, not when LTE development began.

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Of course, now you are gonna say that.

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[JHBThree]

The question was which OS phone was the first with LTE, not when LTE development began.

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And yet you peg androids start at 2003. Your double standards are showing.

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[return_0]

And yet you peg androids start at 2003. Your double standards are showing.

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That's a different question. When asked when Android began or when its development began, the answer is 2003. 2008 would be the answer to "When was Android publicly introduced?"

Similarly, 2002 would be the answer to "when did LTE development begin?" But the question was when LTE was publicly introduced, which would be 2009.

If by "double standards" you mean having two different answers to two different questions, then yes I have double standards and they are showing.

 

[JHBThree]

That's a different question. When asked when Android began or when its development began, the answer is 2003. 2008 would be the answer to "When was Android publicly introduced?"

Similarly, 2002 would be the answer to "when did LTE development begin?" But the question was when LTE was publicly introduced, which would be 2009.

If by "double standards" you mean having two different answers to two different questions, then yes I have double standards and they are showing.

Those weren't the questions being asked.

Not to mention that your answer isn't accurate. Android as a smartphone os didn't exist until 2007.

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[abazigal]

We can argue all we want about whether the ipad is an original creation or not, or nitpick about 101 perceived shortcomings it possesses (no ports, file manager, real multitasking etc). Bottom line is, it looks great and works great and people love it. It continues to garner the lion's share of the tablet market (and its profits) despite competitors flooding the market with all variants of tablets. Just yesterday, there was news of another school cluster signing a deal for $30 million worth of ipads. Contrast this with Microsoft practically dumping their RT tablets are sure-fire rates (and even then, there doesn't seem to be any takers). So Apple is clearly doing something right (and it's not just their marketing).

You ask me what it is that Apple does which is supposedly so revolutionary. To me, it's their whole take on simplicity (I know, it sounds rather hackneyed and contrived after Ive's video in WWDC). Each of their offerings is geared towards solving a perceived problem or shortcoming in the way we use similar products. The whole crux here is that complexity isn't a feature (or at least not a feature that most people want or appreciate). Simplicity is. Other companies may have been first to introduce a certain feature, but let's be honest, in hindsight, most of their implementations sucked, or didn't work as well as they could have.

It's not an easy distinction to make, not when complexity is often confused with "more", and people tend to equate "getting more" with "getting more value for their money". However, the problem then comes when people are not getting more of what they want, but are instead saddled with more issues that they have to contend with.

Apple realised this, and I daresay that we are all better off for it.

 

[return_0]

It continues to garner the lion's share of the tablet market (and its profits) despite competitors flooding the market with all variants of tablets.

Actually, the iPad's market share is dwindling rather rapidly. At this point I think it's at 40% if not lower.

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[JHBThree]

Actually, the iPad's market share is dwindling rather rapidly. At this point I think it's at 40% if not lower.

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Depends on who you talk to and the metric you're using. Apples marketshare is 40-60%, but their actual usage is significantly higher. iPads account for over 80% of web traffic.

http://marketingland.com/tablet-market-share-ipad-remains-dominant-samsung-shows-growth-45974

 

[Aquila]

Depends on who you talk to.

Q1 2013 numbers were 48% iOS, 43% Android, 7% Windows, 1% others with some odd low tenths of a percent on the top 3.
Q1 2012 numbers were 63% iOS, 34% Android, 0% Windows, 3% others.

 

[JHBThree]

Q1 2013 numbers were 48% iOS, 43% Android, 7% Windows, 1% others with some odd low tenths of a percent on the top 3.
Q1 2012 numbers were 63% iOS, 34% Android, 0% Windows, 3% others.

Again, depends on who you talk to. Some have apple in the low 40s, others in the 60s. They're all just guesses anyways.

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[anon5664829]

Actually, the iPad's market share is dwindling rather rapidly. At this point I think it's at 40% if not lower.

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IPad mini gave them a boost back into it.

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[Aquila]

At least one of the iPads is in the top 5 tablets available, in my opinion. Depends on who I'm recommending for.