Will VZW get it? What do you think?

[richardyarrell]

None of what you stated matters. Verizon is the WORST CARRIER for any Nexus device. Fast Internet meaning nothing when your overall Dbm/asu reception is inconsistent. Your 4g switches to 3G and 1x very often daily. Even with 4.1 jellybean the Verizon Galaxy Nexus can't keep a data connection signal. Verizon is useless

Sent from my Galaxy S3 on Tmobile..

 

[peterskim]

I was with T-Mobile for about 4 years, switched to AT&T to get the iPhone, then went to Verizon for the GNex. Had the GNex on Verizon for 6 months but just sold it (yeah I paid the ETF). This really depends on where you live but in NYC, Verizon is overrated. I never had reception issues with T-Mobile. AT&T (as was widely reported) was crap in NYC.

Since the Nexus 4 is coming out soon, I dumped Verizon and the GNex so I can get faster updates. I don't think people should blame Verizon for the slow Android update issue. It seems like Google shouldn't have allowed Verizon to get a Nexus phone if they weren't going to agree with the principle of the Nexus program which is to get stock Android updates to end users as soon as they get released by Google. And knowing how Verizon operates, I highly doubt they would have given Google control over the OS update deployment, so in all likelihood, Google should have known this would happen.

I think for the sake of the integrity of the Nexus brand and program, Google shouldn't release a Nexus phone specifically for Verizon if Verizon won't agree to give Google full control over when and how Android updates are pushed out. Either that or Google should only sell unlocked Nexus phones with the Verizon LTE bands through the Play store and make the Android updates available for download directly by users in case Verizon blocks the OTA updates.

 

[richardyarrell]

I gladly kicked Verizon to the curb sold my Galaxy Nexus for 250 and brought my current Galaxy S3 on Tmobile. Tmobile pimp slaps Verizon silly here in New York City. Verizon will never see any Nexus device again and that makes me happy. Terrible experience on Verizon they are mud in my book anybody talking up Verizon and it's Lte network will always here from me.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 on Tmobile..

 

[moosc]

IPhone5 has it. and that's a smaller frame phone.

I don't think they could fit all that in a smartphone. LTE versions of phones are usually bigger and heavier. So if they wanted to put GSM, CDMA and LTE radios inside, the phone would be too big. But what they could do I think, is to make an unlocked CDMA LTE version so that one could activate it with VZW or any other CDMA carrier that allows using out-of-carrier phones.

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[Rizz1-2]

None of what you stated matters. Verizon is the WORST CARRIER for any Nexus device. Fast Internet meaning nothing when your overall Dbm/asu reception is inconsistent. Your 4g switches to 3G and 1x very often daily. Even with 4.1 jellybean the Verizon Galaxy Nexus can't keep a data connection signal. Verizon is useless

Sent from my Galaxy S3 on Tmobile..

I am fairly certain none of what you stated is Verizon's fault. If your phone is dropping and switching between signals that's an antenna and hardware issue. Really not that surprising considering there was a lot of complaints about the Gnex radios on verizon. Verizon pumps out a signal, if your phone cant pick it up and maintain it I would point the blame to the device. Personally I haven't had issues with Verizon, but I don't think google should let them be part of the nexus program if they are gonna continue to muddle the update process and bloat the phone.

 

[ChuckG73]

Why does this require multiple Nexus devices? Why not just Sprint version, Verizon version etc. as with the Galaxy Nexus?

Sent from my Nexus S 4G

Multiple Nexus' would give Google the opportunity to build a Motorola Nexus and not show favoritism and have a Nexus on VZW

 

[dmmarck]

Multiple Nexus' would give Google the opportunity to build a Motorola Nexus and not show favoritism and have a Nexus on VZW

Yup. Removes any evidence of favoritism.

Dropped by Felix from 24 Miles above the Earth

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

It is always entertaining to read the various assortment of personal definitions that people give for what Google uses for what a Nexus is. The strange part of it is they are personal definitions. I am unable to find any documentation from Google that includes any of the criteria listed by folks here for the Nexus. :what:

Maybe someone can post the sources to the Google documentation which supports those claims?

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[Chocu1a]

Multiple Nexus' would give Google the opportunity to build a Motorola Nexus and not show favoritism and have a Nexus on VZW

I am not sure they meant PHONES when they touted "multiple Nexus devices". Think about it:
Nexus 4
Nexus 7
Nexus Q
rumored Nexus 10.
That right there is 4 Nexus devices, only 1 being a phone.

None of what you stated matters. Verizon is the WORST CARRIER for any Nexus device. Fast Internet meaning nothing when your overall Dbm/asu reception is inconsistent. Your 4g switches to 3G and 1x very often daily. Even with 4.1 jellybean the Verizon Galaxy Nexus can't keep a data connection signal. Verizon is useless

Sent from my Galaxy S3 on Tmobile..

I am sorry that was your experience on Verizon. My Nexus has been great on Verizon. Never a "bad" signal, even better on JellyBean. I almost always have 4 bars of service. In my area, lte is everywhere. I drove from Memphis TN to Jackson MS without one single drop in service.

 

[dmmarck]

I gladly kicked Verizon to the curb sold my Galaxy Nexus for 250 and brought my current Galaxy S3 on Tmobile. Tmobile pimp slaps Verizon silly here in New York City. Verizon will never see any Nexus device again and that makes me happy. Terrible experience on Verizon they are mud in my book anybody talking up Verizon and it's Lte network will always here from me.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 on Tmobile..

I've never had that happen, particularly since the latest JB radios. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't for others, particularly when you factor in location.

 

[movielover76]

I somewhat doubt it, Verizon has shown that it can't truly embrace a nexus phone and allow Google to properly update it without massive delays.
When you add large delays to software updates on a nexus, it isn't a nexus anymore.
I'm a verizon refugee, who finally realized that Verizon was ripping me off, prepaid on a GSM Galaxy Nexus now paying half the cost of my Verizon service
and I've never been happier with my smartphone and service. (T-mobile mvno)

I don't have to worry, I'll get my gsm nexus right away

 

[Chiggin4]

I think it's funny that it says "Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using crappy HSPA+ network". LOL (and I too am hoping to see the Nexus on VZW)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using awesome LTE network

 

[Chiggin4]

What stops Google from launching the Nexus Four as a "world phone" or i think the term is "penta" band. Basically antenas that will work for GSM/CDM/HSPA+/LTE so that they could sell that one phone through the play store and we all could take that same phone to our carrier of preference? Is that even Possible?
BCB

I think this would be great! It also eliminates the need for many skus on similar devices. Manufacturing costs would be more easily controlled too. The hard part is getting all those antennas/radios in the phone without inuring extra costs for users who wont use all the antennas because of their network of choice. Even so, I would LOVE to see Google sell the Nexus as a world phone!

 

[bugz_92]

A couple of things, you guys need to first realize that updates take longer on CDMA for a reason. CDMA has a lot more secret and complex software ties than GSM and that's fine. Also If the radios for the VZW nexus didn't supposedly suck(blame Samsung) to begin with then they wouldn't have focused so much time on maintenance updates to fix reception problems, and slowing the total update process. Basically they would have push the update out a little bit faster if it was the smart thing to do.

Second, one of my main issue with VZW getting a nexus, was the disapperance of the logo. It is because VZW was able to do it that made sprint do it, which irritated a lot of people. Another BIG problem is how we had to wait like a month and a half before it came to the U.S. Combine this with the whole Wallet and apps problem and we have a negative view of Verizon and Nexus in the same sentence. You have to agree with me here.

I really do want VZW and Sprint to both get it but if VZW can not keep the phone stock at least with no carrier apps like Sprint(who puts apps in the play store), then they shouldn't be allowed to dirty Google's reputation.

 

[jcsugrue]

As a former Verizon customer who was VERY disappointed with the way the Galaxy "Nexus" was treated, I hope that Verizon does not get it. I think that it would be a good thing for the Nexus program. A Nexus phone should be unlocked, and should receive immediate updates from Google. Even though it was the best phone I ever had on Verizon, I am 100x more happy with the Galaxy Nexus that I purchased from the Play Store. I didn't mind giving up half of my storage space, to have a phone that was supported, updated, and could easily switch between carriers with a simple SIM swap.

 

[Woosh]

What stops Google from launching the Nexus Four as a "world phone" or i think the term is "penta" band. Basically antenas that will work for GSM/CDM/HSPA+/LTE so that they could sell that one phone through the play store and we all could take that same phone to our carrier of preference? Is that even Possible?
BCB

What stops Google is the carriers, each carrier wants something specific and won't just take any phone and slap it on their network. If they sold one Nexus phone with LTE/CDMA it would be pointless since carriers have complete control of LTE and if you slap it on their network they can cut it off at anytime if they want. As for CDMA, Verizon and Sprint will not activate a phone that they don't sell and/or have their logo on. So adding CDMA would be completely pointless since very few carriers outside the US even use this technology and the ones who do likely might have the same requirements.

Also, if you look at Apple they have issues with their LTE also. They have to make 4 ish different iPhones, maybe more I'm not sure. So atm not one phone can work on any network you plop it on. But Apple also has the sales to backup being able to do whatever they want on these networks. It was no doubt in their original contract with AT&T and when that blew up I would say Verizon had to comply to get the phone so I'm sure its in their contract as well. Google has no pull with carriers right now since their phones don't even sell that well on their networks.

So basically the carrier gets to tell Google what they want and they go fetch it for them. Which is why Verizons model has 32GB and the play store was just 16GB. Verizon also gets to lock down apps which I assume is model based? So imagine if that were able to happen, all the ppl paying for unlocked phones are blocked from whatever Verizon doesn't want you to have.

So I'd say its very possible to add the CDMA part and maybe even a form of LTE, there is just no reason to do it since the carriers don't want it to happen.

 

[gone down south]

Verizon "screwing the GNex up" is completely subjective. My phone worked just fine on ICS. Was my phone "screwed up" because I had to wait a bit for an update? Nope. Nexus branded phones provide stock android, which is what the GNex has. So how it's not a "true Nexus" escapes me.

So if they sell a phone with stock Froyo, it's still a Nexus? The whole point of the program isn't just having stock Android, it's having the most recent updated stock Android at all times.

 

[Saiga]

It is always entertaining to read the various assortment of personal definitions that people give for what Google uses for what a Nexus is. The strange part of it is they are personal definitions. I am unable to find any documentation from Google that includes any of the criteria listed by folks here for the Nexus. :what:

Maybe someone can post the sources to the Google documentation which supports those claims?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

So do you feel that Verizon and Sprint Galaxy Nexus users have received the same quality experience as GSM Galaxy Nexus users? There is no possible way anyone here can say yes.

Isn't it odd to you that the Galaxy Nexus versions with carrier branding don't offer the same experience as the Google branded Galaxy Nexus? Isn't it kind of odd that this website has three Galaxy Nexus forums? One for the Google Galaxy Nexus and then two additional forums for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Did that naming difference ever strike you as being sort of odd? You know all of the real Nexus devices that I can think of usually say Google in the name. Not the OEM that made it. I mean we call it the Google Nexus 7 don't we? Why is it that every single retailer that offers the sprint or Verizon Wireless Galaxy Nexus calls the device a Samsung Galaxy Nexus? Serious questions, if the CDMA Nexus is a real Nexus then why are there these differences in the experience, branding and naming?

If people are happy being able to say they have a Nexus just because of a word in the name than congratulations, you all have a Nexus! Sure they don't offer the advantages one would expect from a Nexus, but the name is sorda there and that's all that matters isn't it?

 

[KennyMB]

I don't understand the people saying Verizon doesn't deserve a Nexus. So because you disagree with how Verizon handled the Galaxy Nexus, us Verizon customers don't deserve a quality phone? Even if it's not "pure Nexus" (which is total bull), it's still a quality high end option for CONSUMERS.

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[osubeavs728]

So if they sell a phone with stock Froyo, it's still a Nexus? The whole point of the program isn't just having stock Android, it's having the most recent updated stock Android at all times.

If people are happy being able to say they have a Nexus just because of a word in the name than congratulations, you all have a Nexus! Sure they don't offer the advantages one would expect from a Nexus, but the name is sorda there and that's all that matters isn't it?

You assume that's the whole point of the program. Has there been in documentation from Google guaranteeing or explicitly promising these things that people assume the Nexus program is for? I have yet to see it, but I'd love to if it exists. The Nexus showcases a new version of software when it's released, which both the GSM and CDMA versions had. So in that regard how was the CDMA version a fail?