Wow. How's Google going to beat new HD Kindle Fire at $159?

What numbers? I think the last couple pages have made it clear there aren't really any numbers to go off of.

There are. We have market share numbers that are derived by retailer surveys as well as web checks. The fire has fallen behind all of them.
 
There are. We have market share numbers that are derived by retailer surveys as well as web checks. The fire has fallen behind all of them.

Where do the Kindle Fire numbers come from? I think Amazon is the only place you can buy them. And of course they are claiming a number some of you don't believe. So it sounds like we don't really have any comparable data on hand that I've seen. Though I can easily Google and find plenty of third party analysts that say the Kindle Fire has outsold every Android tablet easily. But that brings us back around to what data are we believing? That is why I used the word opinion, because I don't believe there is any way to verify.
 
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(And add Amazon Prime to that and for $79/year you can stream movies - some that Netflix doesn't even have - and take out thousands of books for free on the device)

I already have Prime (and boy is their Panasonic Vieralink app a buggy, unusable kluge), installed the Kindle app tonight... Where are these 1000s of free books? :confused:

// AndroidCentral app on Nexus 7 //
 
I already have Prime (and boy is their Panasonic Vieralink app a buggy, unusable kluge), installed the Kindle app tonight... Where are these 1000s of free books? :confused:

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Gutenberg project. Just search for free from the browser.

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Staples carries the Amazon Fire and e-readers. Does anyone else think the 8.9" is a little clunky at 20 ounces (567 grams). The 7" HD is 13.9 ounces (395 grams) compared to 340 grams for the N7. That plus the limitations of Ama(zon)droid last years forked flavor will deter those who don't want it mainly for Amazon content. If the larger model is really 20 ounces I think it will flop compared to an iPad mini if that is priced at $325_350.


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Kindle Fire 2 at 159$ doesn't interest me & 200$ for the HD? Nah, I'll stick with the N7.

I bought an original Kindle Fire at launch for the price which was fine but I hated their "Launcher" & only really started using the device when CM9 with ICS came out for it. Currently it's only being used as my bedside alarm clock.
 
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Cool device. Great price. For those who don't have a tablet already, it is a great choice. Nexus 7 is a great choice also. You can't lose. It depends on likes and preferences. Beat, I think the nexus 7 has nothing to beat. It is a solid device as is.

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I'll take a quad core 7" Tegra device with Nexus level software over a dual core 7" OMAP device with a horrifically bastardised Amazon OS. However, I'll happily pick up one of the 8.9 inch 1080p devices as soon xda cranks out a stable CM10 release for it.

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I'll take a quad core 7" Tegra device with Nexus level software over a dual core 7" OMAP device with a horrifically bastardised Amazon OS. However, I'll happily pick up one of the 8.9 inch 1080p devices as soon xda cranks out a stable CM10 release for it.

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The gpu is scary good though.

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To be honest unless the HD Kindle Fire has some horrible unforseen problems it is going to kill the Nexus 7. I may even dump my Nexus 7 and pick this up since Google can't seem to fix the issues with JellyBean devices connecting to WPA Enterprise Wireless Networks. If the Kindle will work on my work network then the Nexus 7 may be ditched. One other note, you can pretty much bet Amazon won't botch the pre-orders like Google did with the Nexus 7.

Except that you will once again be locked in to the Amazon App Store. And no more jelly bean.

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Only at floating points, not overall.

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I'll reserve judgment until I see scores and HD videos :). On paper though, that gpu is second to the new iPad.

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It was not successful. A successful product does not have its sales collapse a month or two after launch. The fact that amazons market share is behind samsungs should tell you that.

Listen, I won't be getting the new Kindle, but I have to be honest enough to come to their defense here. Clearly the fire was something of a success since the reports I've read say that developers make more money from the Kindle Fire apps than for the general Android apps.

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I'll reserve judgment until I see scores and HD videos :). On paper though, that gpu is second to the new iPad.

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Same here, waiting for benchmarks. But honestly from looking at the architecture, the OMAP doesn't seem to best the Tegra 3 overall. Honestly, though, if HD videos are your main goal both will perform equally well, they're both beasts.
 
Amazon Instant is accessible via flash and Firefox for Android. Just side load flash after installing Firefox and BAM, access to Amazon Instant Video.
And the experience is absolute garbage. Kludged, pixelated, simply unacceptable on a device like the N7 and far worse than the OG Fire. Amazon needs to put out an Android App, but I'm really doubting they'll do so.

I'm really annoyed that I dropped $250 for an N7 because for all it's slickness in speed and quality (once I got one without a borked screen), I'm finding that I have to use other devices to get at the stuff I want:

* Amazon Instant Video - iPad or Fire.
* Next Issue - iPad or Transformer and Wired is iPad-only. Vanity Fair, Entertainment Weekly and Wired have Fire versions. Next Issue says JB support is "coming soon" but they posted that a month ago.

Having the "pure Google experience" is cold comfort when that's all you have. I'm not prepared to dump the N7 for a Fire HD because I want my Play apps and wallpapers, but unless the app support stops sucking, it's hard to recommend the N7 over the Fire HD to general users. Sucks, but troof.
 
Listen, I won't be getting the new Kindle, but I have to be honest enough to come to their defense here. Clearly the fire was something of a success since the reports I've read say that developers make more money from the Kindle Fire apps than for the general Android apps.

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Thats moving the goalpost on defining success. We're talking about the success of the hardware in the marketplace. Successful devices don't go from 18% market share to 4% in the span of two months.

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And the experience is absolute garbage. Kludged, pixelated, simply unacceptable on a device like the N7 and far worse than the OG Fire. Amazon needs to put out an Android App, but I'm really doubting they'll do so.

I'm really annoyed that I dropped $250 for an N7 because for all it's slickness in speed and quality (once I got one without a borked screen), I'm finding that I have to use other devices to get at the stuff I want:

* Amazon Instant Video - iPad or Fire.
* Next Issue - iPad or Transformer and Wired is iPad-only. Vanity Fair, Entertainment Weekly and Wired have Fire versions. Next Issue says JB support is "coming soon" but they posted that a month ago.

Having the "pure Google experience" is cold comfort when that's all you have. I'm not prepared to dump the N7 for a Fire HD because I want my Play apps and wallpapers, but unless the app support stops sucking, it's hard to recommend the N7 over the Fire HD to general users. Sucks, but troof.

Scope browser plays Amazon instant video in perfect quality on the N7.

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Amazon sold around 6 millions Kindle Fire to date.

Kindle Fire Sold Out, But How Many? | Digital Book World

The question on everyone’s mind is, how many Kindle Fires did the company sell before it ran out?

Publishers Lunch has done some math on the matter and come up with six million. The New York Times did its own math and came up with the same number.

We’re all in agreement then: The Kindle Fire has sold six million units. Well, all of us except Amazon; the company has been mum. A request for comment on the matter by Digital Book World has not yet been answered by Amazon.
 

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