1. yhboy's Avatar
    Has anyone been experiencing this? Is it firmware related?
    08-22-2019 03:29 PM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
    It might be because carrier firmware have the carrier aggression. You can can flash to carrier firmware if you choose so.
    bgbagz likes this.
    08-22-2019 03:57 PM
  3. jlangner's Avatar
    My signal strength is lower than my S10+ (locked) was.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    08-22-2019 03:58 PM
  4. yhboy's Avatar
    It might be because carrier firmware have the carrier aggression. You can can flash to carrier firmware if you choose so.
    I was thinking the same, except it does show LTE+ which means it 'should' be using/taking advantage of carrier aggregation. Maybe it just doesn't play well with T-Mo network without their firmware?
    mustang7757 likes this.
    08-22-2019 04:10 PM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    I was thinking the same, except it does show LTE+ which means it 'should' support carrier aggregation. Maybe it just doesn't play well with T-Mo network without their firmware?
    I've messed around with this on my note 9 going from unlocked to carrier firmware and carrier firmware is better signal wise and RCS features but I love the unlocked version enough to not keep me on carrier one.
    08-22-2019 04:12 PM
  6. yhboy's Avatar
    I've messed around with this on my note 9 going from unlocked to carrier firmware and carrier firmware is better signal wise and RCS features but I love the unlocked version enough to not keep me on carrier one.
    Any particular reason aside from it being unlocked and having slightly less bloat?
    08-22-2019 04:17 PM
  7. CKwik240's Avatar
    My signal strength is lower than my S10+ (locked) was.
    Not how are you measuring that? I noticed on the past that t-mobile branded versions of hardware would scale the signal meter differently than the unlocked version. But if I looked at the numerical value, the signal strength was identical.
    08-22-2019 04:46 PM
  8. shook187's Avatar
    Not how are you measuring that? I noticed on the past that t-mobile branded versions of hardware would scale the signal meter differently than the unlocked version. But if I looked at the numerical value, the signal strength was identical.
    Exactly.. T-Mobile always boost their signal on their branded phone compared to their unlocks counterparts even though the APN settings are the same.. I had situations where my wife's T-Mobile phone shows full signal even though there is no signal.
    08-22-2019 05:30 PM
  9. Lepa79's Avatar
    I have pixel 3 xl on T-Mobile and don't see any speed issues. If note 10+ unlocked is different for some reason, it will be going back. Don't have patience for things like this.
    08-22-2019 05:35 PM
  10. mustang7757's Avatar
    Any particular reason aside from it being unlocked and having slightly less bloat?
    Battery life and no splash screen , I don't like having carrier stuff on it .
    runfar262 likes this.
    08-22-2019 05:41 PM
  11. shook187's Avatar
    I have pixel 3 xl on T-Mobile and don't see any speed issues. If note 10+ unlocked is different for some reason, it will be going back. Don't have patience for things like this.
    How are you measuring the speed?
    08-22-2019 05:46 PM
  12. hou33guy's Avatar
    Depending on ur location tmobile was having network issues yesterday, not sure if they still are
    08-22-2019 05:49 PM
  13. yhboy's Avatar
    Depending on ur location tmobile was having network issues yesterday, not sure if they still are
    I read about that. But that doesn't explain it. I just spoke to a buddy who purchased an unlocked 10+ from Samsung and was experiencing a similar issue with reception. He flashed the T-Mo firmware on it and is seeing noticeably better signal/speeds (unrelated to the artificially boosted signal icon up top).
    nuangel2 likes this.
    08-22-2019 05:51 PM
  14. worldsoutro's Avatar
    Battery life and no splash screen , I don't like having carrier stuff on it .
    You can disable bloat with adb comma d
    08-22-2019 06:42 PM
  15. dario12v's Avatar
    Battery life and no splash screen , I don't like having carrier stuff on it .
    So our unlocked version has more battery life?
    Why?
    08-22-2019 06:46 PM
  16. mustang7757's Avatar
    So our unlocked version has more battery life?
    Why?
    It does because it doesn't have more process in background going on that carrier phones do
    08-22-2019 06:48 PM
  17. mustang7757's Avatar
    You can disable bloat with adb comma d
    Never bothered that way , but heard you can .
    08-22-2019 06:48 PM
  18. shook187's Avatar
    How do you flash T-Mobile software?
    nuangel2 likes this.
    08-22-2019 06:54 PM
  19. mustang7757's Avatar
    How do you flash T-Mobile software?
    Odin , download 3.13.1 then head to sammobile and download your firmware model but for tmobile .
    shook187 and nuangel2 like this.
    08-22-2019 07:11 PM
  20. bhatech's Avatar
    Don't go by the signal indicators, in my testing perviously at least in my location there wasn't any difference in actual speeds between the unlocked and carrier versions when I was with T-Mobile. Carriers like to show more bars in their firmware maybe but actual speeds and connection no difference. If carrier bloat and carrier firmware doesn't bother you then yeah just for your peace of mind flashing the carrier firmware to make it carrier version doesn't hurt. Personally always prefer the non carrier firmware but that's just me.

    PS: if you aren't familiar flashing, then be careful and don't brick your device
    nuangel2, EMGSM and runfar262 like this.
    08-22-2019 07:47 PM
  21. jlangner's Avatar
    Not how are you measuring that? I noticed on the past that t-mobile branded versions of hardware would scale the signal meter differently than the unlocked version. But if I looked at the numerical value, the signal strength was identical.
    I still have my S10+. Side by side at work S10+had 5 bars, Note 10+ had 2 bars. Hopefully the meter not that off.
    08-22-2019 08:02 PM
  22. jlangner's Avatar
    Don't go by the signal indicators, in my testing perviously at least in my location there wasn't any difference in actual speeds between the unlocked and carrier versions when I was with T-Mobile. Carriers like to show more bars in their firmware maybe but actual speeds and connection no difference. If carrier bloat and carrier firmware doesn't bother you then yeah just for your peace of mind flashing the carrier firmware to make it carrier version doesn't hurt. Personally always prefer the non carrier firmware but that's just me.

    PS: if you aren't familiar flashing, then be careful and don't brick your device
    I'll try to remember and do a speed test tomorrow then.
    08-22-2019 08:04 PM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    Yeah I never bother doing speed test but I've noticed in areas I went in that cell phone coverage was not good my unlocked phones would get no service vs a carrier firmware phone would have it . Not often it happens but that's my finding.
    08-22-2019 08:26 PM
  24. jlangner's Avatar
    Slower speeds with Unlocked ver. on T-Mobile?-screenshot_20190823-160118_t-mobile.jpg

    Don't believe any of that but this is what t-mobile said. I had full signal strength on way home with 120 download speed so guessing whatever band is work is weaker???
    08-23-2019 04:36 PM
  25. jlangner's Avatar
    This is on drive home.

    Slower speeds with Unlocked ver. on T-Mobile?-inkedinkedscreenshot_20190823-163748_speedtest_li.jpg
    08-23-2019 04:51 PM
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