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  1. garak0410's Avatar
    Is the Note 7's Selective Focus similar to the iPhone 7's depth-of-field that they were making such a big deal of today during the iPhone event?
    09-07-2016 03:46 PM
  2. geraldem's Avatar
    Results seem to be the same
    Gray Area likes this.
    09-07-2016 04:10 PM
  3. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    I just took this photo with the selective focus and honestly if I took better one I think it will be right up there with the iPhone 7 concept.... It not only let's u blur the background but also the foreground... and this was low light
    09-07-2016 05:18 PM
  4. 1213 1213's Avatar
    I thought it was a standard camera feature? I know the galaxy s5 did it quite well over 3 years ago.
    Gray Area likes this.
    09-07-2016 05:28 PM
  5. Stealthieone's Avatar
    Lol i was thinking the same thing
    Gray Area likes this.
    09-07-2016 05:48 PM
  6. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    The 7Plus can focus on a different part of the scene, allowing the user to change focus after the fact.

    Similar to a Lytro camera.
    09-07-2016 05:53 PM
  7. pcsperson's Avatar
    The 7Plus can focus on a different part of the scene, allowing the user to change focus after the fact.

    Similar to a Lytro camera.
    I didn't catch that cold so it is good to know. Is there a similar feature on the note 7?
    09-07-2016 06:03 PM
  8. Connert's Avatar
    Lol, I'm so happy that Apple has finally innovated this new and exciting feature.

    Is it something like this?

    https://recombu.com/mobile/article/f...ed_M20454.html
    09-07-2016 06:03 PM
  9. chyeo1979's Avatar
    Seems different to me.

    Apple's depth of field effect is to artificially blur the background to create bokeh effect. Samsung's selective focus is taking a few pics so that you can choose which object is in focus after that.
    09-07-2016 06:12 PM
  10. garak0410's Avatar
    Thanks for the insight here...Camera is the number one feature for me but it would take a lot more than a Camera to make me go to iOS. If I may digress, I'm just waiting on Verizon to get the replacement Note 7's!!!
    09-08-2016 05:51 AM
  11. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Being a photographer, all I can say is there is no difference between these two. When they call it depth of field, there is no aperture control to control the depth of field. All its going to do is by focus. In a real world (SLR cameras), you change the depth field by changing the aperture in the lens, while iPhone 7 comes with fixed 1.8 aperture. That said, iPhone utilizes the software feature to control the depth of field aka selective focus to capture what they call, depth of field.
    To understand the aperture, you can experiment this with your eyes. If you place an object just near to your eye and you just look at that object, your eye pupil expands (lets say its around 1.4f aperture - and you can notice the background is totally blur) and when you look at an object 50 meters away pupil size decreases (around f8.0 aperture - you can see more stuffs in distance in the same glance).

    IPhone 7 comes with the fixed f1.8 aperture, and is in its way to make a new legacy about depth of field - people believe whatever Apple says!
    09-08-2016 08:14 AM
  12. chyeo1979's Avatar
    Being a photographer, all I can say is there is no difference between these two. When they call it depth of field, there is no aperture control to control the depth of field. All its going to do is by focus. In a real world (SLR cameras), you change the depth field by changing the aperture in the lens, while iPhone 7 comes with fixed 1.8 aperture. That said, iPhone utilizes the software feature to control the depth of field aka selective focus to capture what they call, depth of field.
    To understand the aperture, you can experiment this with your eyes. If you place an object just near to your eye and you just look at that object, your eye pupil expands (lets say its around 1.4f aperture - and you can notice the background is totally blur) and when you look at an object 50 meters away pupil size decreases (around f8.0 aperture - you can see more stuffs in distance in the same glance).

    IPhone 7 comes with the fixed f1.8 aperture, and is in its way to make a new legacy about depth of field - people believe whatever Apple says!
    From what I read, iPhone's depth of field feature is using software to artificially blurred the background more to create a more pronounced bokeh effect.
    09-08-2016 08:22 AM
  13. garak0410's Avatar
    Being a photographer, all I can say is there is no difference between these two. When they call it depth of field, there is no aperture control to control the depth of field. All its going to do is by focus. In a real world (SLR cameras), you change the depth field by changing the aperture in the lens, while iPhone 7 comes with fixed 1.8 aperture. That said, iPhone utilizes the software feature to control the depth of field aka selective focus to capture what they call, depth of field.
    To understand the aperture, you can experiment this with your eyes. If you place an object just near to your eye and you just look at that object, your eye pupil expands (lets say its around 1.4f aperture - and you can notice the background is totally blur) and when you look at an object 50 meters away pupil size decreases (around f8.0 aperture - you can see more stuffs in distance in the same glance).

    IPhone 7 comes with the fixed f1.8 aperture, and is in its way to make a new legacy about depth of field - people believe whatever Apple says!
    Thanks for the comments. I almost drank the Kool-Aid. Guess waiting on my Note 7 recall/replacement has me antsy.
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    09-08-2016 08:26 AM
  14. True_RL's Avatar
    Being a photographer, all I can say is there is no difference between these two. When they call it depth of field, there is no aperture control to control the depth of field. All its going to do is by focus. In a real world (SLR cameras), you change the depth field by changing the aperture in the lens, while iPhone 7 comes with fixed 1.8 aperture. That said, iPhone utilizes the software feature to control the depth of field aka selective focus to capture what they call, depth of field.
    To understand the aperture, you can experiment this with your eyes. If you place an object just near to your eye and you just look at that object, your eye pupil expands (lets say its around 1.4f aperture - and you can notice the background is totally blur) and when you look at an object 50 meters away pupil size decreases (around f8.0 aperture - you can see more stuffs in distance in the same glance).

    IPhone 7 comes with the fixed f1.8 aperture, and is in its way to make a new legacy about depth of field - people believe whatever Apple says!
    Thanks for the explanation. This makes sense. Being that the Note has a f1.7 aperture, that makes it better than the iPhone 7+, correct?
    PlaybookFanatic likes this.
    09-08-2016 08:37 AM
  15. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    From what I read, iPhone's depth of field feature is using software to artificially blurred the background more to create a more pronounced bokeh effect.
    That is how it sounds from their keynote. But I will be surprised if it can beat the existing monsters in the market. HTC 10 already has f/1.8 26mm and Galaxy S7 with f/1.7 26mm. Technically, S7 should be able to create better bokeh images. However, the telephoto lens (56mm) on IPhone 7 plus, could have a better chance, but the aperture is f/2.8 (which could be better than 26mm for a bokeh, but low light performance on its small sensor would be worst). either way these are no other than selective focus features.
    09-08-2016 08:37 AM
  16. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Thanks for the explanation. This makes sense. Being that the Note has a f1.7 aperture, that makes it better than the iPhone 7+, correct?
    Yes, it should be the case. While the 56mm lens on iPhone 7 plus could take a better bokeh in good lighting, but low light performance will be worst, with its f/2.8 aperture.
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    09-08-2016 08:40 AM
  17. True_RL's Avatar


    Take that iPhone 7! Lol
    09-08-2016 02:17 PM
  18. NCTRNL2's Avatar
    You should post the other version where the water is in focus. Selective Focus is actually pretty cool.
    09-08-2016 02:29 PM
  19. True_RL's Avatar


    Here is the other version, it didn't work too well because it kept telling me that the subject was undetected. Either way, still looks good.
    09-08-2016 02:39 PM
  20. NCTRNL2's Avatar
    Well with the Selective Focus mode, you can actually select the focus point from front to back in the same photo.
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    09-08-2016 02:44 PM
  21. dsignori's Avatar
    I think what Apple announced is pretty great. Let's face it, it really doesn't matter HOW depth of field is achieved if the only thing that matters is that your photo is PERCEIVED to have depth of field. The iPhone appears to be able to do this well (though we won't know for sure until a later software update it seems). I expect some rather fantastic looking photos from the 7Plus.

    Give Apple credit where it is due. They have had great cameras in their phones ever since the iPhone 4. Continuing to push the technology for the best cameras on a phone is great for all of us.
    09-08-2016 04:00 PM
  22. 1213 1213's Avatar
    I think what Apple announced is pretty great. Let's face it, it really doesn't matter HOW depth of field is achieved if the only thing that matters is that your photo is PERCEIVED to have depth of field. The iPhone appears to be able to do this well (though we won't know for sure until a later software update it seems). I expect some rather fantastic looking photos from the 7Plus.

    Give Apple credit where it is due. They have had great cameras in their phones ever since the iPhone 4. Continuing to push the technology for the best cameras on a phone is great for all of us.
    How is it better than what we have in the note 7 though?
    09-08-2016 04:03 PM
  23. chyeo1979's Avatar
    How is it better than what we have in the note 7 though?
    It means the background can be blurred even more in iPhone 7 by software, even though the lens aperture isn't as wide as Note 7. Of course, the result need to come out natural and not look too "photoshopped".
    09-08-2016 06:09 PM
  24. Connert's Avatar
    It means the background can be blurred even more in iPhone 7 by software, even though the lens aperture isn't as wide as Note 7. Of course, the result need to come out natural and not look too "photoshopped".
    I'm not getting your point here. Additional blur added by software can be done with just about any device with the help of any one of several apps from the play store.

    What the Note 7 seems to be doing is taking two shots, one with a near focal point which gives the background a natural blur and one with a distant focal point, giving the foreground a natural blur. It also seems to be merging the two shots to give you a third option with a very large depth of field (like an f8 or f10) so everything in view is in focus (for the most part).

    I've just started playing around with this, I think it's going to be fun and provide some interesting shots.
    PlaybookFanatic likes this.
    09-08-2016 07:18 PM
  25. dsignori's Avatar
    How is it better than what we have in the note 7 though?
    Why does it matter if it is better or not? We don't know yet, because no one can "test" it yet anyway. I am sure once it becomes available there will be more than enough comparison articles around to see, if it really matters. I'm just saying I expect it will be very good, regardless of how it compares to anything else.
    09-08-2016 10:39 PM
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