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  1. mustang7757's Avatar
    Oh I totally am. But if this was how it was supposed to be, then each carrier wouldn't bother releasing their own software. One would release it and then people would just load it onto an SD card and flash it. So stop pushing people to do something that makes no sense. Seriously. You look silly.
    Where did i say you must do this ?
    they didn't want to wait I gave them a option .
    Seriously you look even more foolish making a comment like that
    02-07-2019 10:34 AM
  2. ksharp's Avatar
    Thanks to all you who are trying to help us (mustang1157, iceystreeeet and others)... but I understand some concerns that people have, I have been an Android user since the first days and have been with just about every carrier at some point and have had about every flagship device through the years (too many to name) and have gone through lots of these kinds of updates.

    My question is if the carriers are given the firmware to test and check for compatibility then if and when they discover any would'nt they delay the update until a fix could be determined otherwise what would be the purpose for the testing period? Also, on a carrier level how much access do they have to tweak and make changes to the firmware for implementation on their network?

    I realize the rush by some carriers to be the first to push the update but sometimes those are the ones that are putting their customers into a beta testing role for the device on their network and I have felt like I been there a couple of times and then after being so anxious for a major update to only find regret that I jumped in too soon.

    Like most, I use my phone as an essential part of my job and if it is not working then I have trouble doing what I am paid to do.

    Thanks for you help though and please keep up the contributions I do enjoy reading them and they are helpful.
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    02-07-2019 10:59 AM
  3. Iceystreeeet's Avatar
    Bugs will likely be flushed from this update and other things will be worked out. Waiting just makes more sense.
    Bro, Name is Icey I'm a XDA developer who has over 18 years experience in working with Samsung devices.

    Listen to me closely,

    0. This is an update not a rollout
    1. CSAAA update is the official version by Samsung.
    2. No bugs are in this update due to samsung releasing and testing for the past six months.
    3. Carriers dont get to change firmware anymore the updates come directly from the dev's
    4. I am sorry you do not know how to do this but I can promise you it works.
    5. Stating nonsense on the threads doesn't help others here.
    6. Verizon wireless, at&t wireless, sprint, tmobile all use the same version of pie CSAAA which is a universal version.

    Again the next update is not due by Samsung until March which will be updating the one UI again and possibly pie. So please stop saying will work out you sound crazy.

    No offense.

    Icey
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    02-07-2019 11:06 AM
  4. TechNut79's Avatar
    That's fine. Enjoy Pie and I will get it when Verizon releases it. End of story. I'll say no more on this subject.
    02-07-2019 11:09 AM
  5. Iceystreeeet's Avatar
    Thanks to all you who are trying to help us (mustang1157, iceystreeeet and others)... but I understand some concerns that people have, I have been an Android user since the first days and have been with just about every carrier at some point and have had about every flagship device through the years (too many to name) and have gone through lots of these kinds of updates.

    Update coming from developers are done in house and then sent as batch updates to carriers. This allows for full transparency and allows for quicker releases. As android has changed over the years so have the processes.

    My question is if the carriers are given the firmware to test and check for compatibility then if and when they discover any would'nt they delay the update until a fix could be determined otherwise what would be the purpose for the testing period? Also, on a carrier level how much access do they have to tweak and make changes to the firmware for implementation on their network?

    Updates are coming from developers not carriers anymore carriers were taken forever so universal updates should be common going forward.

    I realize the rush by some carriers to be the first to push the update but sometimes those are the ones that are putting their customers into a beta testing role for the device on their network and I have felt like I been there a couple of times and then after being so anxious for a major update to only find regret that I jumped in too soon.

    Most updates are tested by developers for a duration using betas with international users etc.

    Like most, I use my phone as an essential part of my job and if it is not working then I have trouble doing what I am paid to do.

    Your phone will go into maintenance mode which is brand new to alot of people this means you can manually push an update however the update has to match if it doesn't it wont install as it does not have root to overwrite anything.

    Thanks for you help though and please keep up the contributions I do enjoy reading them and they are helpful.
    See my answers above. This is literally failsafe everyone.
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    02-07-2019 11:13 AM
  6. jlangner's Avatar
    I was confused at first as well. In the past you would have to Odin say ATT software onto T-Mobile, Verizon, etc. and then when your carrier's version came out you would have to odin back and update. If this was the case now, I also would have waited, but its not and was a breeze. But with this update it is universal so everything in my case, still says t-mobile, all t-mobile features still there, etc.

    As far as bugs found, I would guess the only way they would not roll out would be if some major bug was found that only affected Verizon then would have to fix prior, otherwise small stuff fixed on next.
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    02-07-2019 11:13 AM
  7. Iceystreeeet's Avatar
    Yes you are correct carriers use to have custom firmware which added lots of bloat as of right now developers are in talks to be able to disable and or remove bloat from there roms. Samsung is heavy on user experience I mean the new UI... took them 9 months to fine tune and test. I'd say in the coming updates carriers wont really matter and sooner or later we will get a the batch updates like users who have international variants.
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    02-07-2019 11:21 AM
  8. Neal Smith's Avatar
    Oh I totally am. But if this was how it was supposed to be, then each carrier wouldn't bother releasing their own software. One would release it and then people would just load it onto an SD card and flash it. So stop pushing people to do something that makes no sense. Seriously. You look silly.
    He's not pushing you to do anything... if you can't figure out how to do it then wait for Verizon to push it to your phone.
    02-07-2019 11:22 AM
  9. ansa82's Avatar
    [QUOTE=felloffthetruck;6460374]Absolutely, Verizon is always the last to do anything or release

    I'm just not that great with my phone to update on my own. Now if I had someone right here doing it for me I totally would lol
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    02-07-2019 11:48 AM
  10. tjubb's Avatar
    update went smoothly but a couple issues. (1). battery life seems to have taken a major hit. I go from 100% to 70% alot quicker than previously. I can't put numbers on it or quantify it but initial impressions are much poorer battery life. Will continue to monitor. (2) and most problematic is now the camera when going into 2x zoom mode. I hear an audible buzz and can feel a slight vibration and the camera can't seem to lock on and focus. If I shake the phone it will sometimes fix itself and lock on to the subject and the "buzz" goes away. It seems like the zoom lens gets stuck. I searched on this and seemed to be problem back in September/October when the phone was first released. I haven't dropped the phone and this certainly seems to be a hardware issue but oddly, was not a problem pre-Pie updates. Any thoughts?
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    02-07-2019 12:26 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    update went smoothly but a couple issues. (1). battery life seems to have taken a major hit. I go from 100% to 70% alot quicker than previously. I can't put numbers on it or quantify it but initial impressions are much poorer battery life. Will continue to monitor. (2) and most problematic is now the camera when going into 2x zoom mode. I hear an audible buzz and can feel a slight vibration and the camera can't seem to lock on and focus. If I shake the phone it will sometimes fix itself and lock on to the subject and the "buzz" goes away. It seems like the zoom lens gets stuck. I searched on this and seemed to be problem back in September/October when the phone was first released. I haven't dropped the phone and this certainly seems to be a hardware issue but oddly, was not a problem pre-Pie updates. Any thoughts?
    For battery you probably have to wait few days before adaptive battery figures your usage pattern then get better.
    For camera not sure what to say as I heard pie has fixed frozen,not working before it.
    02-07-2019 12:49 PM
  12. mustang7757's Avatar
    Yes you are correct carriers use to have custom firmware which added lots of bloat as of right now developers are in talks to be able to disable and or remove bloat from there roms. Samsung is heavy on user experience I mean the new UI... took them 9 months to fine tune and test. I'd say in the coming updates carriers wont really matter and sooner or later we will get a the batch updates like users who have international variants.
    I hope they can do that like international versions.
    02-07-2019 12:54 PM
  13. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I'm on Verizon and I'm PieLess
    02-07-2019 01:30 PM
  14. daero93's Avatar
    I followed the above mentioned procedure. It was smooth and painless if you follow the instructions. I've been on Pie since last night. No issues. Just went exploring trying to learn some of the new changes. My phone has no issues. By the way I'm on Verizon. It took about 10 minutes.
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    02-07-2019 01:32 PM
  15. aparker2005's Avatar
    Loving the update. Super easy to install. Thanks for the help everyone!
    mustang7757 and Neal Smith like this.
    02-07-2019 01:37 PM
  16. Iceystreeeet's Avatar
    Just follow my steps. You will be on pie just like that.

    Download correct version
    Rename your downloaded file to update.zip
    Move to SD card
    Turn off phone
    Turn on device holding Bixby and volume up
    Release once logo pops
    Update from SD pick update.zip
    Done
    Be patient and let update load plug in device.
    You now have Pie.

    Please tag me if you have any questions I'll answer as fast as I can I run an IT consulting company and I'm busy all the time lol.

    XDA Dev
    Icey
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    02-07-2019 01:40 PM
  17. berfles's Avatar
    I'd be doing this in a heartbeat if I didn't have my unlocked model.
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    02-07-2019 02:26 PM
  18. TX Jedi's Avatar
    Ok, first real problem with this update. Samsung Pay; I had removed the swipe from bottom feature because it interferes with the other swipe gestures. It keeps coming back even when showing disabled. Also, whenever SP is opened it shows navigation buttons even though I am in swipe mode for everything else. Tried clearing the cache, no help. Tried uninstall/reinstall, same problem.
    02-07-2019 02:33 PM
  19. scribe4food's Avatar
    Something else I've noticed. My apps in the Apps Edge are removed, whenever I change the font size in the Display setting.
    02-07-2019 02:47 PM
  20. Iceystreeeet's Avatar
    Simply put the core applications were wipped as the upgrade did remove unwanted apps just readd your edge apps I had to do the same as well. You might have noticed the phone app u use to use is gone as well android pie is a game changer for sure. You will notice new features as well

    XDA Dev
    Icey
    02-07-2019 03:20 PM
  21. Roose00's Avatar
    I did a full factory reset and cache clear before installing the .Zip. So far all seems very good. I did back up to PC with SS. I didn't restore anything from it.
    02-07-2019 03:28 PM
  22. anon(10579675)'s Avatar
    Anyone else on Verizon having issues with Always on Display not working after using the sideload?
    02-07-2019 06:14 PM
  23. stephen nicholson's Avatar
    Well I'm a little over 24 hours after using this method to update and I have zero issues thus far everything seems smooth and I thought the battery was draining a little fast aswell but it's most likely me since I haven't put my phone down yet
    02-07-2019 07:44 PM
  24. mclarryjr's Avatar
    Anyone else on Verizon having issues with Always on Display not working after using the sideload?
    Mine works just fine and I like the new clock options. Are you sure you have it set to always show and not tap to wake or scheduled?

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    02-07-2019 08:20 PM
  25. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    Still Pieless over here waiting on Verizon.
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    02-07-2019 08:29 PM
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