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  1. jtcannonball's Avatar
    So according to a few sites Samsung is working on a fix and they don’t mention what issues they are working on. The articles mention both the autofocus issues and the aggressive smoothing if details.

    Nice to see Samsung working on a fix before release. Hopefully it helps correct the issues I keep seeing people mention on here.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...pdate-promised
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    02-27-2020 01:30 PM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
    So according to a few sites Samsung is working on a fix and they don’t mention what issues they are working on. The articles mention both the autofocus issues and the aggressive smoothing if details.

    Nice to see Samsung working on a fix before release. Hopefully it helps correct the issues I keep seeing people mention on here.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...pdate-promised
    Yeah definitely
    02-27-2020 01:35 PM
  3. RaRa85's Avatar
    I hope all models benefit from this update since all the reviewers have zoomed in, pun intended, on the S20 Ultra so much. The average consumer will fall into the S20 and Plus camp yet you can't find any coverage on these phones that drop next Friday.
    02-27-2020 03:05 PM
  4. DanielLoreti's Avatar
    Doesn't need a fix. Tom's says it's the best smartphone camera ever
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    02-27-2020 03:35 PM
  5. DUTCH VanAtlanta's Avatar
    I wonder if the fix being worked on is the same one I posted about here:

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...ml#post6747153
    02-27-2020 04:11 PM
  6. Lobwedgephil's Avatar
    I wonder if the fix being worked on is the same one I posted about here:

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...ml#post6747153
    Will be a new fix in the future, not that one that is already out. No word on timeframe.
    02-27-2020 06:26 PM
  7. DUTCH VanAtlanta's Avatar
    Will be a new fix in the future, not that one that is already out. No word on timeframe.
    The one I referred may be already out, but it is not on the Samsung.com download page.
    02-27-2020 07:10 PM
  8. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Well I hope it improves it a lot...because form what I've seen online and in person, it's somewhat underwhelming.

    Enough for me to reconsider purchasing it.
    02-27-2020 07:14 PM
  9. DanielLoreti's Avatar
    Well I hope it improves it a lot...because form what I've seen online and in person, it's somewhat underwhelming.

    Enough for me to reconsider purchasing it.
    These don't look good?
    02-27-2020 07:21 PM
  10. Lobwedgephil's Avatar
    The one I referred may be already out, but it is not on the Samsung.com download page.
    It is already out in Korea, I bet its out for everyone near release date. The camera updates Samsung said they will make based on the "reviews" is going to be a different update.

    https://www.sammobile.com/news/galax...rmware-update/
    02-27-2020 07:47 PM
  11. RaRa85's Avatar
    Well I hope it improves it a lot...because form what I've seen online and in person, it's somewhat underwhelming.

    Enough for me to reconsider purchasing it.
    The camera is already a beast man. What have you been seeing? A few updates will make it mind blowing. 4-10x zoom is clutch in all lighting conditions too.
    02-27-2020 07:52 PM
  12. jtcannonball's Avatar
    The camera is already a beast man. What have you been seeing? A few updates will make it mind blowing. 4-10x zoom is clutch in all lighting conditions too.
    Did you read the reviews and the article that was linked? They mention how you don’t know what you’re getting, could be a great photo or a crap shot. Photo range is anywhere from highest of highs to the basement. It’s not consistent, soft details and bad autofocus. Those issues are what they are addressing. Quite a few reviewers mentioned how they took a ton of photos to get the ones you and others think are amazing. So if they can add a higher frequency of successful quality shots than that’s a win.
    02-27-2020 08:21 PM
  13. RaRa85's Avatar
    Did you read the reviews and the article that was linked? They mention how you don’t know what you’re getting, could be a great photo or a crap shot. Photo range is anywhere from highest of highs to the basement. It’s not consistent, soft details and bad autofocus. Those issues are what they are addressing. Quite a few reviewers mentioned how they took a ton of photos to get the ones you and others think are amazing. So if they can add a higher frequency of successful quality shots than that’s a win.
    I'm basing my opinions from the reviews I've seen from SuperSaf and a few others and at most they mentioned autofocus issues and some tendencies to blow out highlights and raise shadows etc. These are early annoyances that will be fixed especially since the phone isn't even in the hands of consumers yet.
    02-27-2020 09:06 PM
  14. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    These don't look good?
    Not really a fan. Thought the iPhone 11/Pixel 4 took better photos in those comparisons.

    Just don't like how Samsung handles skin. Too much smoothing, over exposed and just looks artificial to me. She looked like a plastic doll whereas looked like a human on the iP11/P4XL there. Also tends to oversharpen, which can be a double-edged sword. It can make things look more clear, but can also make things look too sharp and splotchy.

    I've been a Pixel user in the past (currently on Galaxy S10+) so maybe I'm just too used to how the Pixel took photos and I prefer that style. While I like my S10+, the camera I do feel was better on the Pixel. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, I don't think the S20U is much better.
    02-27-2020 09:56 PM
  15. buzzy3970's Avatar
    I'm glad I don't buy phones based on reviewers. If I did I'd probably only have iPhones and that's a sad sad life...
    02-27-2020 11:20 PM
  16. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Not really a fan. Thought the iPhone 11/Pixel 4 took better photos in those comparisons.

    Just don't like how Samsung handles skin. Too much smoothing, over exposed and just looks artificial to me. She looked like a plastic doll whereas looked like a human on the iP11/P4XL there. Also tends to oversharpen, which can be a double-edged sword. It can make things look more clear, but can also make things look too sharp and splotchy.

    I've been a Pixel user in the past (currently on Galaxy S10+) so maybe I'm just too used to how the Pixel took photos and I prefer that style. While I like my S10+, the camera I do feel was better on the Pixel. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, I don't think the S20U is much better.
    Different strokes. Pixel photos make everyone look 15 years older than they are.
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    02-28-2020 12:24 AM
  17. dov1978's Avatar
    Different strokes. Pixel photos make everyone look 15 years older than they are.
    Haaa. The Pixel 3xl I was using for the past 8 months did just that. I thought I'd just had a reality check and I'd seriously aged but now you mention this. 🤔😂
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    02-28-2020 01:21 AM
  18. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Different strokes. Pixel photos make everyone look 15 years older than they are.
    I've never heard that before - that the Pixel ages people. But I do like the Pixel camera more than my S10+ and from what I've seen on the S20 Ultra as well. More true to life colours/not oversaturated, more depth/contrast, no aggressive skin smoothing (unless you turn it on), and no aggressive sharpening. I prefer that look.

    Also I've found the Galaxy might take a couple shots from me to get one that looks good, whereas the Pixel was typically one shot and it was very consistent. Also moving objects, the shutter speed on the S10+ seems to be a touch slow and results in the moving object being blurry.

    Still a good, versatile camera, but I do think the Pixel camera is better when it just gives down to image quality. Hence why I'll wait for the Note 20/iPhone 11S/Pixel 5. Hoping the Note 20 has a different direction for camera software processing.
    02-28-2020 01:37 AM
  19. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    For my money, the iPhone 11 takes the overall best photos right now. I'd take Samsung/Huawei next. Pixel would be next. Pixel over sharpens and the software basically creates what it thinks you look like. Some people like that. For me it doesn't feel like a real photos but a robotic creation.

    Therefore what I often got with my Pixel 3 was faces that looked old and details like a sky or street lights blown out.

    Of course no camera is perfect and neither is Samsung. Every camera is capable of great shots and throwaways. Which is why, although the camera is a important feature, I don't completely buy into the smartphone camera hype.
    02-28-2020 03:29 AM
  20. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    For my money, the iPhone 11 takes the overall best photos right now. I'd take Samsung/Huawei next. Pixel would be next. Pixel over sharpens and the software basically creates what it thinks you look like. Some people like that. For me it doesn't feel like a real photos but a robotic creation.

    Therefore what I often got with my Pixel 3 was faces that looked old and details like a sky or street lights blown out.

    Of course no camera is perfect and neither is Samsung. Every camera is capable of great shots and throwaways. Which is why, although the camera is a important feature, I don't completely buy into the smartphone camera hype.
    Pixel oversharpens but Samsung doesn't?? Huh?

    Oversharpening is one of the main characteristics (and criticisms) of Samsung's cameras.
    02-28-2020 05:37 AM
  21. kolyan2k's Avatar
    Hoping they will fix stuff in time for release. For whatever reason they haven't fixed anything in S10 series to this day
    02-28-2020 05:52 AM
  22. jtcannonball's Avatar
    I'm basing my opinions from the reviews I've seen from SuperSaf and a few others and at most they mentioned autofocus issues and some tendencies to blow out highlights and raise shadows etc. These are early annoyances that will be fixed especially since the phone isn't even in the hands of consumers yet.
    I'm not arguing the phones are taking bad photos, but there is a clear issue with autofocus not finding a focal point and bouncing around and soft details due to aggressive HDR trying to over-sharpen. A fix would be something that benefits everybody. And a lot of these HDR/Soft Details/Skin Smoothing have been annoyances as you called them for several years without a fix yet, so lets hope they do fix them as I am a big Samsung fan.
    02-28-2020 07:08 AM
  23. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Pixel oversharpens but Samsung doesn't?? Huh?

    Oversharpening is one of the main characteristics (and criticisms) of Samsung's cameras.
    Pixels oversharpening is different. Take a picture of someone's face and then show it to them.
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    02-28-2020 09:29 AM
  24. Lobwedgephil's Avatar
    Hoping they will fix stuff in time for release. For whatever reason they haven't fixed anything in S10 series to this day
    This fix likely won't be by release, but I am hoping they actually do fix in, and its just not what they are saying before the phone launches. Guess we will see. Either way looks like the Ultra will be a great camera.
    02-28-2020 11:53 AM
  25. milehigherik's Avatar
    Different strokes. Pixel photos make everyone look 15 years older than they are.
    I like that the pixel doesn't filter out my wrinkles and white hair. I'm a real person.
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    02-28-2020 10:24 PM
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