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  1. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Let's keep the discussion civil. There's no need to take a patronizing tone in this discussion.

    Sent from my SGSIII
    05-26-2013 01:23 AM
  2. tfast500's Avatar
    Its called root and then an app called foldermount

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
    05-26-2013 01:56 AM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    Technically you can root your device and gain the ability to move apps to an SD card, but it is becoming more unstable and difficult to update apps, etc. This should not be considered a primary solution, especially for brand new users to Android.

    If you are interested in rooting, I'd suggest these threads:
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sof...ting-here.html
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...hlight=rooting
    05-26-2013 02:16 AM
  4. fantom305's Avatar
    *eye rolls*

    I detest the annoying poster in this thread saying it is normal and that PC's have it too because they use 46 apps which barely take up any space.
    Get it through your head - not everyone uses apps that are under 200MB each.
    You don't need to get all bent out of shape and defensive about it. All I was doing was stating my opinion with out trying to offend any one. I think that the issue is simple, if you are the type of a person that uses big apps then go get yourself a phone that has plenty of memory to suit your needs but don't come here complaining and insulting people about something that you went into by your own choice. You had 15 days to return your so called fraudulent phone (I hope you did), and if you didn't do it shame on you. On the other hand there are plenty of people out there that will do good with 9gb. Is it not normal for a hard drive to have less space after being formatted and having the operating system installed ?? so what is the difference ? when you buy a 30 gb HD what you get is less than that to begin with so is up to any one if they get it or not, therefore, DON'T BE A HATER.
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    05-26-2013 02:52 AM
  5. anon5664829's Avatar
    You don't need to get all bent out of shape and defensive about it. All I was doing was stating my opinion with out trying to offend any one. I think that the issue is simple, if you are the type of a person that uses big apps then go get yourself a phone that has plenty of memory to suit your needs but don't come here complaining and insulting people about something that you went into by your own choice. You had 15 days to return your so called fraudulent phone (I hope you did), and if you didn't do it shame on you. On the other hand there are plenty of people out there that will do good with 9gb. Is it not normal for a hard drive to have less space after being formatted and having the operating system installed ?? so what is the difference ? when you buy a 30 gb HD what you get is less than that to begin with so is up to any one if they get it or not, therefore, DON'T BE A HATER.
    But touch wizz uses up past the acaptable limit. 1-2GB I understand, but 5-6 GIGABYTES?? That's just too much.
    05-26-2013 03:23 AM
  6. Notsosure's Avatar
    When I looked in to buying this phone I went through forums and google searches, read reviews and made certain that this is the phone for me. I knew of the 9 gig bc there were numerous forums with people complaining about it. And there were discussions after discussions on not being able to move apps on to the SD card. If I am dishing out that much money and signing a new 2 year contract I will need to know I can stay with this phone for 2 years. You cant claim fraud without proper proof. Without concrete evidence you want to go after a multinational corporation with loads of cash that can hire an expensive attorney and prob turn around and make you pay for their attorney fee in the end for wasting their time. You want to go after goliath you better be well equiped.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk
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    05-26-2013 03:25 AM
  7. Gator352's Avatar
    Samsung didn't advertise it to have that much storage. That's why it's specifically said that formatted storage will be less.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Samsung does in fact advertise it as 16GB. They do in fact state that formatted storage will be less. BUT they never stated before, or at least at launch, exactly how much would be available to the user. It's not fraud purse' but it's down right misleading. The way they put it makes the average user believe that it has "around" 16GB for storage. The touchwiz bullshoy takes up most of that space for all the features that barely work. Why didn't they incorporate TW into the rom itself leaving "around" 14.xGB for the user? I know...most manufacturers, including HTC, don't do that but why not?? Samsung seems to want to do want they want and they have every right to do so....but at the users expense is unforgivable like all the sensor features. The S4, to me, is a phone for testing purposes. Testing what actually works, testing what people use, and testing what apple is going to sue for next. Instead of actual testing, they threw it out to the user to be the "pigs" for Samsung's "R&D".

    Sent from my HTC One with no lag and in bright sunlight
    05-26-2013 07:09 AM
  8. jneusch's Avatar
    Maybe I missed something, but didn't the OP mention that they were giving their S3 away? Unless I'm mistaken, the S3 was launched with ICS. You can't move apps to the SD card on any OS from ICS on up.

    I think the OP has done a good job of sucking us all in on a subject that has been beaten to death.

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    05-26-2013 08:44 AM
  9. Gator352's Avatar
    Maybe I missed something, but didn't the OP mention that they were giving their S3 away? Unless I'm mistaken, the S3 was launched with ICS. You can't move apps to the SD card on any OS from ICS on up.

    I think the OP has done a good job of sucking us all in on a subject that has been beaten to death.


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    Agreed!
    05-26-2013 08:47 AM
  10. meyerweb#CB's Avatar
    Come on people. I don't know about overseas, but in the U.S. EVERY carrier offers a 14 day return period. In some states longer. If you bought the phone and were unhappy to discover how much free memory it has, TAKE IT BACK! No one is forcing you to buy a Samsung GS4. If you're unhappy with it, vote with your wallet, and buy something else.

    Grow up and take responsibility for yourself. Whining here will accomplish nothing. Letting Samsung know, by returning the phone, just might.
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    05-26-2013 10:52 AM
  11. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Let's keep the discussion civil. There's no need for the patronizing tone in some of the posts here. This is the second time that I've had to say this in the thread.

    Sent from my Nexus 4
    05-26-2013 11:03 AM
  12. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Tom Tom for Android. The map data is huge. I used this instead of Google Maps etc, because the automatic traffic rerouting has been best for me. Supposedly they had made it so the data can be moved to a SD card, but as I found out on their forums, that feature is not working. In one day I may drive anywhere from 150-300 miles so the real time traffic adjustments are life saver.
    I would then counter-suggest finding a different app. Waze, Mapquest, Telenav, there are many.
    05-26-2013 11:13 AM
  13. jneusch's Avatar
    I would then counter-suggest finding a different app. Waze, Mapquest, Telenav, there are many.
    I would second Waze. It uses very little data and does a good job with traffic. It may be worth it to give it a try.


    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Android Central Forums
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    05-26-2013 11:18 AM
  14. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I would second Waze. It uses very little data and does a good job with traffic. It may be worth it to give it a try.


    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Android Central Forums
    I actually just looked at the Tom Tom app on Play. 33 MB download; even if unzipped to about 70 MB total, what is the other 2.13 GB accounting for?
    05-26-2013 11:22 AM
  15. gabbott's Avatar
    I actually just looked at the Tom Tom app on Play. 33 MB download; even if unzipped to about 70 MB total, what is the other 2.13 GB accounting for?
    Never used it myself but looking at it on the play store there is mention of this:

    *** BEFORE YOU BUY THIS APP ***
    1. Check that you have at least 2.3GB of free storage space, either on your internal phone memory or external storage. To look it up, go to your phone settings, and then data storage.
    2. If theres enough storage, buy the app using your Google account and install it on your phone. You now need to download the latest TomTom map before you can use the app.
    So I'm guessing it downloads map data after the initial install. (yep, that sounds like a lot of map data)

    Also, for the price of the app (it's quite pricey) I'd imagine someone that has already invested in it wouldn't want to use an alternative.
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    05-26-2013 11:26 AM
  16. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Never used it myself but looking at it on the play store there is mention of this:



    So I'm guessing it downloads map data after the initial install. (yep, that sounds like a lot of map data)

    Also, for the price of the app (it's quite pricey) I'd imagine someone that has already invested in it wouldn't want to use an alternative.
    Good point. Also, isn't there a subscription on top of it as well?
    05-26-2013 11:34 AM
  17. Farish's Avatar
    I would then counter-suggest finding a different app. Waze, Mapquest, Telenav, there are many.
    I have used them all, none of them in my experience does rerouting this well.
    Incident that I put on another post.

    There was a big rig accident blocking a lane of a freeway. In real time, TomTom saw the accident, rerouted me off the exit and back on the freeway without me having to do one single thing.
    I have yet to use another app that does it for me like this. TomTom will also start popping up with faster route options for me to choose while driving as it makes adjustments based on traffic.

    Now this is all based on my experience with IOS but I am assuming it is going to be same on Android.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Good point. Also, isn't there a subscription on top of it as well?
    20 dollars annually for traffic. Worth every penny in my experience.
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    05-26-2013 11:53 AM
  18. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Now this is all based on my experience with IOS but I am assuming it is going to be same on Android.
    .
    Key word: assume.
    05-26-2013 12:00 PM
  19. jokout1's Avatar
    WOW, I can't believe I'm actually going to reply to another one of these threads!
    The fact remains, the vast majority of S4 buyers will never fill the roughly 9Gb of internal storage! This is the main customer base the standard 16GB model is aimed at, PERIOD! Why make everyone pay for the extra storage so a realitive few can utilize it? If you have special needs, purchase a phone that meets those special needs! That's like telling Dell they can only sell top end gaming PCs because a very small percentage of their customer base are game enthusiasts!
    I have to second the notion that the OP was playing pretty loose with the truth when he claims to have had a GS3 and was shocked when he got the GS4! There is only approx. 2Gb diference in remaining storage from S3 to S4 and NEITHER phone can move apps to SD!
    Funny thing here is I still have roughly 8GB of space on internal storage but have used over 30GB of data on the SD, so a 32 GB HTC One or Nexus 4 wouldn't work for me! Should I be over on the HTC forum whinning about that? NO, that is why I bought a phone that fills my needs!
    If the HTC One or Nexus 4 do a better job of filling your needs, go ahead and buy one, they are both fine devices!
    You will be happy and we will be happy!

    Cheers
    05-26-2013 12:38 PM
  20. Harry Poole's Avatar
    Here's a very brief YouTube video on how to move some of your internal storage items to your SD card. I used it and it moved at least half of my internal storage to the sd card. And it appears that my Note 2 still works.
    05-26-2013 12:59 PM
  21. gabbott's Avatar
    Here's a very brief YouTube video on how to move some of your internal storage items to your SD card. I used it and it moved at least half of my internal storage to the sd card. And it appears that my Note 2 still works.
    Just tried this on my S4 and while initially it moves a bunch of app space such as cache and such... when you use the apps again they begin to recreate their cache space in the internal memory.
    05-26-2013 01:18 PM
  22. ljredeye's Avatar
    I went back to full-time Android a couple weeks ago. I did not know about the SD card thing when I had my Galaxy Nexus and became a space cautious user. Probably because I have like one or two games, at minimum, on my phone. The rest of the space is dedicated to music, podcasts and other apps. Yes I was disappointed about not moving apps to the SD card anymore, but I get by. I just need to figure out what to do with my extra SD cards lying around.
    05-26-2013 01:18 PM
  23. dimsdale's Avatar
    WOW, I can't believe I'm actually going to reply to another one of these threads!
    The fact remains, the vast majority of S4 buyers will never fill the roughly 9Gb of internal storage! This is the main customer base the standard 16GB model is aimed at, PERIOD!
    Yes! Thank you. I got a 64GB SD card in my 16GB S4 at the moment. Threw a bunch of HD movies and tons of music onto the card. I installed pretty much every app that I could find a use for and still have 7.72GB of free space internally.

    I'm a heavy user. Desktop is a Quadcore Ivy Bridge at 4.5GHz on water, 4GB of RAID 0, etc. I beat my equipment into the ground. I can't figure out how to fill the internal memory. How many games would I need to install. I say games, b/c I can't see how any other apps will possibly come close.

    Given the SD card slot, how am I supposed to fill the internal memory?

    Can someone please please post a tabulated summary of (a) what apps, and (b) how big they are, so we can see how the 16 GB runs out? Let's assume that you have 7GB free after installing the basics of Chrome, Gmail, Maps. etc.
    05-26-2013 01:38 PM
  24. GadgetGator's Avatar
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    Remember that this forum is here so that people can come and ask questions, and receive answers. While sometimes the answer could be found by something as simple as searching, it is also common for people to buy the next device in their current line of phones because they are dependable. Not every person researches a device before purchasing it. There is no need to bash or talk down to someone because they are not knowledgeable about something. Remember what momma said. "If you don't have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all."
    Jennifer, while I totally agree that everyone should be nice to people, I also think people shouldn't complain about things when they don't research purchases beforehand well. That goes from everything from a toaster to a car to the neighborhood you live in. Research is key to avoiding disappoiments! I've bought products in the past without researching and lived to regret it. But that was my fault. Not anyone else"s. Store employees are notorious for being uninformed and not the best source to go to for information. Not just on phones, but anything. I once shopped for a car where I knew more about the car then the car salesman. I was flabbergasted. Now I research everything cause doing it myself is the only real way to know and not get fleeced.
    05-26-2013 01:46 PM
  25. gabbott's Avatar

    Given the SD card slot, how am I supposed to fill the internal memory?

    Can someone please please post a tabulated summary of (a) what apps, and (b) how big they are, so we can see how the 16 GB runs out? Let's assume that you have 7GB free after installing the basics of Chrome, Gmail, Maps. etc.
    Eh it's been getting beaten to death. But for myself, I can get by with the amount of internal space. But say for those that do gaming on their phone, some apps can take well over a gig of space. There are apps suchs as google play music and youtube that have options to cache media on the device but they will only use internal memory.

    All in all, I can see for some use cases where one can legitimately come close to filling that space. But for those cases, it comes down to chose a different phone or get the 32GB version if available.
    05-26-2013 02:41 PM
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