04-03-2016 03:40 AM
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  1. naresh bathula's Avatar
    Why the Samsung flagship smartphones are not receive early software updates compare to the other smartphones.. Am full disappointed with this... SM G900H.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-26-2016 01:22 PM
  2. ironass's Avatar
    Why the Samsung flagship smartphones are not receive early software updates compare to the other smartphones.. Am full disappointed with this... SM G900H.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    The Samsung Galaxy S5 is almost 2 years old now and Marshmallow will go to the S7 and then the S6 before the S5. Also, you have the non 4G/LTE Exynos octa core minority variant which is only sold in a limited market as opposed to the 4G/LTE Qualcomm quad core models that are worldwide. Therefore, Samsung tend to push out updates to those first. See 42 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide
    03-26-2016 02:42 PM
  3. amar7's Avatar
    I have the G900-F LTE/4G variant and still on android 5.0, am disappointed too tbh. In my opinion androids policy needs improvement generally as a multi-device OS like Windows, they should change their policy to offer manufacturer independent direct updates, at least for security updates and bug fixes.
    03-26-2016 03:43 PM
  4. rokemsokem's Avatar
    The Samsung Galaxy S5 is almost 2 years old now...
    This right here is exactly why I'll never again purchase another Samsung product. Ever. The term Flagship doesn't really mean anything at all. It's just a catch phrase. S5 is less than a couple of dozen months old and this will likely be the last update to its android operating system it ever gets based solely upon the casual whim of a third party like Samsung although it remains a very modern and quite capable piece of technology. And it'll be lucky to receive any of those so called monthly security patches that they promised either unless you have an international version. None of these so called monthly security patches have ever once shown up on my S5, btw. Not once.

    I wish Google would just step in and create an infrastructure/system where they and only they can distribute and service android. These phone manufacturers and carriers have quite a little enterprise going on between themselves in that they are purposefully impeding any regular and critical maintence and service to the android operating system itself in order to sell new phones with an updated os. Each relying on the other to keep the gig going. It is no irony that the two year carrier contracts run consistent with the two year end of support bainwashing that these phone manufacturers feed to consumers as the normal support cycle of the technology.

    Only real way to receive any critical support and regular maintenence from the maker of the os for your android device after a couple of dozen months go by following the purchase is to buy Nexus. Or just migrate to Apple. Even Microsoft with their Windows phones do a better job at demonstrating regard for their customers by making sure their devices continue to receive the critical updates that they need.

    Once I know for sure that my very modern and quite capable S5 will finally be blocked by Samsung from ever receiving any kind of maintenance and support for the android operating system it came with , I'm moving to either Apple or Nexus. Samsung can pack sand and find another sucker.
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    03-26-2016 05:33 PM
  5. Feldon's Avatar
    I have the G900-F LTE/4G variant and still on android 5.0
    That is puzzling. I thought the "F" version could be updated at will?


    I certainly warn anyone considering a Samsung phone that they will be behind on updates by many months or up to a year, and that they will be SOL after a ridiculously short time like 2-3 years. It does seem like we'll be getting Marshmallow (6.0) on the AT&T Samsung S5, it will just take another 6 months or so.

    Unfortunately Google's only solution thus far is to shrink down AOSP to almost nothing and put everything in the Play Services app, and then come out with a Nexus phone every year. My next phone will probably be the Nexus 5X or 6P.
    03-26-2016 08:43 PM
  6. ironass's Avatar
    That is puzzling. I thought the "F" version could be updated at will?
    Update eligibility depends on CSC and Product codes for the 200+ G900F firmwares worldwide.
    03-26-2016 08:52 PM
  7. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    This too will most likely be my last Samsung phone, I have had the S3, Note 3, Note 4, and now the S5. Having to beg the manufacturer for OS updates is ridiculous. I also have the HTC One M8 which is just as old and it is running 6.0, if only the Nexus 5x had more storage available I would have one.
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    03-26-2016 09:51 PM
  8. Feldon's Avatar
    I guess we could twiddle our thumbs til October and see if the 2016 Nexus is a contender or a pretender.

    The removal of SD cards from last year's Nexus phones coinciding with the addition of Adoptive Storage in Marshmallow (which Samsung and LG have intentionally disabled) just shows how much of a left hand/right hand problem Google has.
    03-26-2016 09:55 PM
  9. ironass's Avatar
    To give you an idea in the difference between Apple's update and Samsung's.

    Apple is updating to iOS9, all phones from the 4S, released Oct: 2011, to the 6S Plus.

    A total of 11 models on 11 firmwares

    If Apple push out another 7 updates in the coming year, that will be a total of 77 firmware updates.

    Samsung is updating to Marshmallow, Galaxy S5, released Feb: 2014, to S7 (inc: Note, Edge, Edge +)

    A total of 8 Galaxy models confirmed so far, and conservatively, around 3,000 firmwares for different CSC and Product codes for both unbranded and carrier branded phones on all variants.

    If Samsung push out a similar number of updates, 7, as Apple, for each model, that is a total of 21,000 firmware updates.

    (Galaxy S4, Alpha and Note 3 Marshmallow updates TBA)

    For more information about phone models, variants, CSC and Product codes, see 42 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide
    03-27-2016 01:57 AM
  10. sayf777's Avatar
    What's so difficult to make one csc for continents? I understand them having to answer to us carriers because they full of crap and feel mighty but Samsung pulls a lot of weight in developing markets. Have one 3G and one 4G version for Africa, Middle East, Asia. Carrier-locking is mostly an issue in us from what I've read?

    At least they could start in the regions above and instead of having so many software paths to worry about hire some people instead for direct software support for at least their high end devices and in that way they can maybe release updates directly.

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    03-27-2016 02:06 AM
  11. ironass's Avatar
    That is where Apple scores with one size, fits all. Samsung offers carrier branded phones and variants and so one model for, say, Canada, has no less than 13 different carrier branded firmwares for its Galaxy S5 Canadian variant. Tiny, Ireland has 5. Each one of those has to be issued as a separate firmware release. Samsung have realised this and have tried to trim the number of models/variants it offers for the S7 and S7 Edge.
    03-27-2016 02:50 AM
  12. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    Samsung aught to reach down and grab a set. They are large enough and command enough market share to manage updates the way Apple does. Apple tells the carriers what they will receive and when, not the other way around. The big carriers have no problem dancing to Apple's tune, it would be the same with Samsung. JMHO
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    03-27-2016 12:55 PM
  13. ironass's Avatar
    Samsung aught to reach down and grab a set. They are large enough and command enough market share to manage updates the way Apple does. Apple tells the carriers what they will receive and when, not the other way around. The big carriers have no problem dancing to Apple's tune, it would be the same with Samsung. JMHO
    Samsung, and other phone manufacturers, are doing exactly what their customers demand.

    Their customers are the carriers... not you. If you do not like the phones your carriers offer you, stop buying them. Simple!

    Maybe the customers should reach down and grab a set for a change. There is no way that, say, the Europeans would put up with heavily carried branded and modified firmware that have locked down bootloaders and creak under all the carrier bloatware and then receive less than half our updates and only a 1 year warranty and they're not even subsidised any longer. LMAO.
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    03-27-2016 03:22 PM
  14. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    Samsung, and other phone manufacturers, are doing exactly what their customers demand.

    Their customers are the carriers... not you. If you do not like the phones your carriers offer you, stop buying them. Simple!

    Maybe the customers should reach down and grab a set for a change. There is no way that, say, the Europeans would put up with heavily carried branded and modified firmware that has locked down bootloaders and creaks under all the carrier bloatware and then receive less than half our updates and only a 1 year warranty and they're not even subsidised any longer. LMAO.
    Thank you for your brilliant insight! LMAO
    03-27-2016 04:12 PM
  15. telrod11's Avatar
    Samsung, and other phone manufacturers, are doing exactly what their customers demand.

    Their customers are the carriers... not you. If you do not like the phones your carriers offer you, stop buying them. Simple!

    Maybe the customers should reach down and grab a set for a change. There is no way that, say, the Europeans would put up with heavily carried branded and modified firmware that have locked down bootloaders and creak under all the carrier bloatware and then receive less than half our updates and only a 1 year warranty and they're not even subsidised any longer. LMAO.
    Exactly why my S5 is my last Samsung product. I will vote with my feet, and the next phone will be a Nexus or a Moto....
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    03-28-2016 09:14 AM
  16. amar7's Avatar
    Exactly why my S5 is my last Samsung product. I will vote with my feet, and the next phone will be a Nexus or a Moto....
    Basically the Nexus, though still not a perfect phone, is the only available solution I'm afraid, if updates are an issue. It is the only solution, incase one handles sensitive data on the phone and would like the latest vulnerability security fixes. Today I recieved another update for my S5 (still 5.0) and Stagefright has been fixed now, months after it being known. Overall my experience with the S5 isn't too bad, but my next phone, if android, will be a Nexus 6p or 7.

    edit: worstthing on the Nexus 6p to me is the unchangable battery (talk about planned obsolescense) and also no sdcard slot, no wireless charging, which is a cool feature on the S7 and others.
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    03-28-2016 09:25 AM
  17. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    Samsung has always been my phone of choice and I think it is a great phone, if they could update them as often as Nexus, I would not look anywhere else. But it is doubtful that my next phone in September will be a Samsung. Although the S7 is one damn fine phone.....delimas, delimas?
    03-29-2016 11:07 AM
  18. Feldon's Avatar
    Samsung has always been my phone of choice and I think it is a great phone, if they could update them as often as Nexus, I would not look anywhere else. But it is doubtful that my next phone in September will be a Samsung. Although the S7 is one damn fine phone.....delimas, delimas?
    November is when the new Nexii tend to be announced. If they put a great camera and SD card, I'm buying.
    03-29-2016 11:51 AM
  19. amar7's Avatar
    November is when the new Nexii tend to be announced. If they put a great camera and SD card, I'm buying.
    Plus a replacable battery for me
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    04-02-2016 02:53 PM
  20. Chad Davis2's Avatar
    I'm trying to update my phone to Marshmellow 6.0 but according to the T-Mobile software update thing the build of android lollipop I have has been "modified in an unauthorized way." I never modified this phone at all.
    What do I do?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-02-2016 05:29 PM
  21. ironass's Avatar
    I'm trying to update my phone to Marshmellow 6.0 but according to the T-Mobile software update thing the build of android lollipop I have has been "modified in an unauthorized way." I never modified this phone at all.
    What do I do?

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    Hello and welcome to Android Central Chad Davis2!

    AFAIK, Android 6.0.1, Marshmallow, has not been released for the T-Mobile Galaxy S5, G900T. Android 5.1.1 is the latest firmware for that model.
    04-02-2016 05:36 PM
  22. rokemsokem's Avatar
    Samsung, and other phone manufacturers, are doing exactly what their customers demand.

    Their customers are the carriers... not you. If you do not like the phones your carriers offer you, stop buying them. Simple!

    Maybe the customers should reach down and grab a set for a change.
    Thank you for your brilliant insight! LMAO
    That insight was actually spot on. I thought so anyway. It is the only logical way that the existing problems that end users are facing will ever be solved. The free market works when consumers function from within its true parameters. When the market is permitted to dictate the consumer's action as opposed to the consumer dictating the market's action, we get what we get. Which is exactly what we have. Again, it is no irony that the traditional carrier contract of two years reflects the same two year device life cycle for support from manufacturers. Carriers and manufacturers have quite a litte enterprise going between themselves. One that is dictating the consumer's action instead of the other way around like it should be. As was mentioned, the manufacturers have grown comfortable and have been successful in popularizung the idea that the carriers are the customers.

    So, yes. Agreed. Grow a pair.
    04-02-2016 05:47 PM
  23. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    That insight was actually spot on. I thought so anyway.
    Yes it was, when he is right, he is right.
    04-02-2016 05:51 PM
  24. ironass's Avatar
    Say what you like about the U.S. Galaxy S5 models but they are nothing compared to the slow motion train wreck that is unfolding for the U.S. Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge customers.

    U.S. carrier S7 models have locked bootloaders and no rooting

    US models, poor battery, audio and slow

    Never has the difference between what the U.S.A. gets compared to the rest of the world, been so great.
    04-02-2016 06:46 PM
  25. Failure2Comply's Avatar
    Say what you like about the U.S. Galaxy S5 models but they are nothing compared to the slow motion train wreck that is unfolding for the U.S. Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge customers.

    U.S. carrier S7 models have locked bootloaders and no rooting

    US models, poor battery, audio and slow

    Never has the difference between what the U.S.A. gets compared to the rest of the world, been so great.
    That is a shame. The S7 is a very beautiful and comfortable phone to hold . So much good and apparently they dropped the ball.
    04-02-2016 09:53 PM
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