Bionic's still coming, is defintely new hardware - XT875
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Preach2k
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Heat issue was fixed months ago. I don't follow anyone on twitter. You sure this was a new tweet?
Sent from my Droid
That's good to hear about the heat issue. Hopefully him or someone else might mention something about the specs soon. Give us something real to discuss on here.
Curiousity About Production Times
I am curious about when the hand sets start coming off the production line in relation to being displayed at a CES.
When they show a phone at CES like the Bionic did they already have units in production?
Saying they are holding back the release for a better form factor alone would be a big deal if they had to retool.
I am curious about when the hand sets start coming off the production line in relation to being displayed at a CES.
When they show a phone at CES like the Bionic did they already have units in production?
Saying they are holding back the release for a better form factor alone would be a big deal if they had to retool.
I'm no insider, but my understanding is that they often show devices at CES before they're really finalized, and well before final testing. The Bionic did appear to be pretty much finalized at that time, but testing was a very extensive process, considering the multiple bleeding-edge technologies it had.
During the testing phase, the manufacturer makes a number of units to distribute internally within their company and the carrier its for, but would not put the unit in production as there's always a chance they may want to make a slight hardware revision. Typically, they'll reach a point in testing where there are no longer any major issues with the device, but the software still isn't optimized and the phone is rather slow and buggy. At that point, they'll typically consider the hardware to be complete and may begin production if the carrier plans on releasing it ASAP and they predict a large demand, as all future issues will be able to be worked out with software updates (or so they assume). Then, once the software is optimized enough for consumer use, they can flash the latest software and package the devices for retail sales.
The original Bionic never made it through the hardware-testing phase. They had more or less finalized the hardware, released the full specs, etc and had a number of testing units out. Most likely, they still had a few issues, but wanted to go ahead and lock in the hardware so they could begin production. But VZW, Moto, or both realized that one or more continuing issues was still hardware related, and couldn't be fixed without a major overhaul. Rather than trying to patch it with software and cause their expected flagship to flop and be a failure in the marketplace, they went back to the drawing board and did a major hardware revision (how major we still don't know). BMX said that the testing units were being sent back, and he hasn't yet seen the new device, though he did mention that he's working on another project, so that doesn't mean that others at VZW don't already have one.
So no, I don't think the original Etna/Bionic was in production at all. I'm sure they had tooled up and begun to plan for its manufacture, but I don't believe Moto would make thousands of units of hardware based on a design that was not yet finalized. Sure, its a setback, but I don't see them doing this unless it was absolutely necessary.
The heat issue was fixed right around the same time it became public, which was just over 2 months ago. End of February to be exact....
radgatt
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Eh, I see no reason to instigate anything between anyone friend-o, I don't think it really matters that much whether they fixed it at a certain point or not, the fact is there was one or more issues that simply could not be fixed, and the redesigned device will not have them, and will not have the heat issue, unless Motorola is a completely incompetent manufacturer (which history would NOT suggest).
The fact is, this new device should certainly have all these issues addressed, and with the Charge confirmed to finally launch officially tomorrow, I should expect we'll hear something more very soon regarding the Bionic, maybe even an early June release date. That's certainly not too much to ask considering how long we've been waiting.
The fact is, this new device should certainly have all these issues addressed, and with the Charge confirmed to finally launch officially tomorrow, I should expect we'll hear something more very soon regarding the Bionic, maybe even an early June release date. That's certainly not too much to ask considering how long we've been waiting.
Since I posted the announcement of the CES Bionic being cancelled he's been like this.
"You're wrong" "No it's not!" "Quit spreading lies!" "Sky is not blue!" "You lie. You didn't eat breakfast!"
"Moon walk was fake!" "Aluminum is not on the periodic table of elements!"
It's all good. It's the internet
Come, come now...I was just having a little fun. Lighten the mood. Not trying to instigate anything. Those two have been going at it for some time, so I thought it was fitting, ha ha. Heck, I've had my bouts with Droid800 too.
Since I posted the announcement of the CES Bionic being cancelled he's been like this.
"You're wrong" "No it's not!" "Quit spreading lies!" "Sky is not blue!" "You lie. You didn't eat breakfast!"
"Moon walk was fake!" "Aluminum is not on the periodic table of elements!"
It's all good. It's the internet
I hear you, buddy, hence the silly pic I posted. I dealt with it too for the same exact reasons as you. Like you said though, it's all good.
I'd love to see some actual release info on this phone. In an ideal world, I'd be comparing this against the Charge instead of simply settling for the only one that is out now.
I'm not sure that a 'summer release' is enough to tide me over.
I'm not sure that a 'summer release' is enough to tide me over.
Sadly CK, I have to vouch for this one with Droid800. I heard similar things from leaks mentioned in other forums past the original "hey we fixed it" back in February.
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