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And your phone will receive 10+ years worth of support too right and likely be viable for 15?
At least, maybe 20.

And your phone will receive 10+ years worth of support too right and likely be viable for 15?
Well for some they just want the latest phone , others will say it's not big upgrade so each individual will be different . I can upgrade to Minor bump as I like those things if I were to get the s20 it would be the ultra , like the camera from what I seen on your tube, 120hz definitely as I seen how good 90 hhz is also like the massive battery on the ultra 5000mah. But most likey will hold out until the Note 20 and trade my Note 10+ at that time .Which is why people will just not upgrade as often. Notwithstanding the price, incentives, etc - the differences between this year's and last year's model isn't sufficient to justify the expenditure. Why should any of us waste our time and money on an "upgrade" for an almost imperceptible improvement in features and performance?
https://bgr.com/2020/02/28/galaxy-s20-vs-galaxy-s10-sales-coronavirus-impact/
I'll bet that some of that downturn is also related to price.
Which is why people will just not upgrade as often. Notwithstanding the price, incentives, etc - the differences between this year's and last year's model isn't sufficient to justify the expenditure. Why should any of us waste our time and money on an "upgrade" for an almost imperceptible improvement in features and performance?
That's the irony. Prices are rising faster than the rate at which these devices are improving. So why spend the money? It's an argument that applies across the board. Samsung is just the most extreme example, being at the top end.Think we've arrived at that point where people aren't upgrading quite as often. I don't or at least we've kept our expenditures well below that of the base S20. But then there are people who are compelled to own the latest-n-greatest no matter what, that'll always be a thing. At some point I'm foreseeing Samsung asking "why aren't our devices selling?" if they continue w/skyward pricing LOL.
That's the irony. Prices are rising faster than the rate at which these devices are improving. So why spend the money? It's an argument that applies across the board. Samsung is just the most extreme example, being at the top end.
More people buy mid-rangers these days.I'm echoing what must people here are saying. The prices are getting ridiculous and consequently people are holding on longer to their phones-especially previous flagships.
In my case, I have 6 months to go before my contract ends. Currently I'm paying $80 per month for a 2 year lease on my Note 9. And my carrier doesn't do a lease on the new S20 series. I'll probably have to pay about $200 to keep the phone if I decide to do so.
But compare $80 to $133 minimum per month for the S20 Ultra over 2 years. As I said before, there has to be more than just a new camera system for me to do that. Things like 8K video, 120 Hz refresh rate etc mean nothing to me. There is no way I'd set the phone to 120 Hz refresh and suffer lesser battery life. I cannot believe people are getting excited over this.
So for me, it'll be have a look at the S21. If the S20 Ultra wasn't that much more than what I'm paying, I would have done it. But I think that is the new reality of flagship smartphones. Only a select few people will cough up to have the latest every year. A while ago, you could count on a lot of people upgrading at 2 years. Now even that is increasingly going by the wayside.
Nothing wrong with that , plenty good ones out thereMore people buy mid-rangers these days.
I'm echoing what must people here are saying. The prices are getting ridiculous and consequently people are holding on longer to their phones-especially previous flagships.
In my case, I have 6 months to go before my contract ends. Currently I'm paying $80 per month for a 2 year lease on my Note 9. And my carrier doesn't do a lease on the new S20 series. I'll probably have to pay about $200 to keep the phone if I decide to do so.
But compare $80 to $133 minimum per month for the S20 Ultra over 2 years. As I said before, there has to be more than just a new camera system for me to do that. Things like 8K video, 120 Hz refresh rate etc mean nothing to me. There is no way I'd set the phone to 120 Hz refresh and suffer lesser battery life. I cannot believe people are getting excited over this.
So for me, it'll be have a look at the S21. If the S20 Ultra wasn't that much more than what I'm paying, I would have done it. But I think that is the new reality of flagship smartphones. Only a select few people will cough up to have the latest every year. A while ago, you could count on a lot of people upgrading at 2 years. Now even that is increasingly going by the wayside.
More people buy mid-rangers these days.
I agree with your conceptThe problem is the true market pricing not MSRP. Samsung isn't actually charging $1000 for the s20 ( lets take the base line as example) , you can trade an s10 which market value is maybe avg $400 (i actually got a plus off my local CL for $300 to trade) so your price is then $800, now if you play the pre order game you could get the extra $35 credit plus the $100, making buds + $15. Lets assume you don't want them and will dump them say fetching $100 cash, you're now down to $700. Seems fair right?
Well the issue is that phone can probably be bought on my local CL (yes I have advantage being in NYC so larger buy/sell base) for $600 very , shortly after launch I've done it countless times with android phones.
Here is the short version which you all know, these phones are worth no where near their MSRP and Android / Samsung depreciate so rapidly and only have support for realistically two years. This is the problem with them . Iphone (most apple products) holds value int he secondary market so when I get my apple products Im less hesitant to jump through hoops for a deal as I know I won't take a huge beating when I want to sell change/upgrade.
And yet 11 months later I got the ceramic brand new for £699 which is half the original price!!I don't think last years flagships were a bargain unless you want to throw the lesser S10 or S10e into the mix.
To be fair current models offer features the S10 series didn't. If we look at the original release prices of S10+, the 128GB model was 999.00. The higher capacity ceramic models were 1249.00 for the 512GB model and 1599.00 for the 1TB model.
No....more people worldwide buy mid-rangers overall than high end phones is what I'm trying to say.Or flagships without the hefty price tag.
No....more people worldwide buy mid-rangers overall than high end phones is what I'm trying to say.