DID I BREAK THE RECORD? mobile data via android handset

[Yourdogsdead]

Nice, I haven't even reached a gig yet. Guess I use too much Wifi.

 

[jonathanlc2005]

downloading huge binaries of midget trany gangbang porno
Brian

brian, do you see somebody about theses fetishes?

 

[jonathanlc2005]

Remember, there will be no way to root around the increased cost for metered billing and the heavy data users of today will be the ones that force the carriers to move to metered billing sooner. I do not wish to call the OP names, that's not my point, it is just that when I have to pay for someone else's heavy data use AND suffer reduced phone responsiveness I can't say the data hogs make me happy!


Brian

i dont believe you read everything i said, im doing exactly what the phone provides which is a slingbox app and music stream via apps. not like im hosting via ps3 or limewire because i dont have tv here to do that or want limewire viruses

 

[qitupx]

You better be paying for that mobile hotspot! Don't ruin unlimited for everyone else!

Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy -- Engadget

 

[steveh552]

I pay for the hotspot as well, we are up to over 17gig, just used for browsing on the web and youtube viewing.

 

[volwrath]

I dont think 4G shows up on my usage, because I know I downloaded a 800 meg file the other day on 4G, yet my usage for the month sits at 600Megs which I know is very low for the streaming, tethering I do on 4G

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Providing bandwidth cost the carriers money -- providing more bandwidth costs more -- that's just the way it is. So, as more and more people move to smart phones and then to more powerful smart phones the data use per customer will continue to increase.

SOOO, sooner or later the carriers will all switch to metered billing and everyone that's gotten comfortable streaming music and TV shows and downloading huge binaries of midget trany gangbang porno will find there monthly bill pushing well past $200 and maybe even 2X that. Better to NOT train yourself into bad and ultimately expensive habits now so you don't have to pay for it later.

Remember, there will be no way to root around the increased cost for metered billing and the heavy data users of today will be the ones that force the carriers to move to metered billing sooner. I do not wish to call the OP names, that's not my point, it is just that when I have to pay for someone else's heavy data use AND suffer reduced phone responsiveness I can't say the data hogs make me happy!


Brian

There have been many articles that state that hosting data on a 4G network is actually cheaper for the carriers because of the speed. Less stress on the network because it gets your request done faster. I wish I could find the link, because now I look like I'm talking out of my ***. It was Verizon that said it, I think.

 

[bnrbranding]

Wow. I haven't even hit a gig this month. That is an impressive number.

 

[Raptor]

There have been many articles that state that hosting data on a 4G network is actually cheaper for the carriers because of the speed. Less stress on the network because it gets your request done faster. I wish I could find the link, because now I look like I'm talking out of my ***. It was Verizon that said it, I think.

It will cost Sprint less to deliver a GB of data over 4G then 3G but it will still cost more to deliver 2GB on 4G versus 1GB on 4G. AND, the rate the data use is increasing is MUCH faster than the bandwidth that 4G offers over 3G.

But, as I said before, sooner-or-later this will be resolved when the carriers switch to metered billing. That way it won't mater what you do with your phone they will still get there money from your because the own the pipe and can know exactly how much data you use. So, even if you root so you can get the hotspot without paying for it they will still get you because of the data you use.

There is no free lunch so the carriers expect to be compensated more when you use it more. The current billing schemes do not take into account the fact that many have found a way around the fees they impose for things like the hotspot by rooting.

The early days of music downloading had only a handful of people doing so but as the software for sharing and downloading became more available and powerful the number of folks, with little or no tech experience that were getting there music by sharing/downloading increased to the point where the music industry is now on the verge of going out of business. The carriers are no doubt aware that rooting makes them vulnerable in a similar way but they have an Ace in the hole the music industry doesn't have -- they own the pipe!

Going forward the carriers will have to evolve the cell network to increase bandwidth for the ever growing number of smart phone users that all have an ever growing demand for data. Since the max bandwidth for a given cell/antennae is pretty well fixed the only way to increase bandwidth in an area is to increase the number of cell/antennae locations and run at lower power. As you can imagine that wont come for free so the carriers will need to be compensated for it or they will have only two options: throttle service or go out of business.

I foresee the day when a 5G or 6G network consists of many times the number of cell/antennae locations with office building have there own cell/antennae setup and likely many. That way the number of users on each cell/antennae can be kept to a lower number so the bandwidth isn't spread too thinly.

So, getting back to the current topic, the switch to metered billing will make the habit of streaming music and/or video and downloading large binaries very expensive so perhaps it would be wise to avoid developing those habits in the first place. I for one have 16GB of music and I carry that on my phone at all times so that I don't have to waste bandwidth streaming. It may not matter now with unlimited data but, as I said, when they go metered the habit of eating GB's per month for something you can easily avoid will prove unwise.


Brian

 

[bnob99]

Going forward the carriers will have to evolve the cell network to increase bandwidth for the ever growing number of smart phone users that all have an ever growing demand for data. Since the max bandwidth for a given cell/antennae is pretty well fixed the only way to increase bandwidth in an area is to increase the number of cell/antennae locations and run at lower power. As you can imagine that wont come for free so the carriers will need to be compensated for it or they will have only two options: throttle service or go out of business.

Lets quite pretending that this is about the carrier's livelihood. This is all about making a quick buck. The two major carriers are bringing in loads of cash. AT&T screwed their customer's that had to go to metered data. New customer's are getting 2GB of data and they can't even tether with that. They have to pay another outrageous fee to tether. If its metered then why charge extra for tethering since all the data is the same anyways? Oh, thats right just another way to screw the consumer. This is why we need real competition but we know thats not going to happen.

Instead of carriers trying to find ways to limit consumers data usage, maybe they should be investing more in their network. They would rather take the lazy route instead and pocket some more cash.

 

[Mdorty]

You better be paying for that mobile hotspot! Don't ruin unlimited for everyone else!

Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy -- Engadget

Did you read the OP?

 

[TheOnlyMorgan]

You owe nobody an explanation. You're using the phone the way it was advertised and meant to be used while also using an incredible feature that you're paying for. Will there probably be a cap at some point? Probably. But that's not your problem. You're paying for an unlimited plan so why worry about how much data you're using? I think it's pretty awesome that you've used more data in a month than I've used all year ha ha. Glad you're enjoying the phone dude.

Totally agreed. I remember before release I made comments how I'd make use of the phone to watch some lengthy HQ Youtube vids and some people got all pissy about it saying stuff like "you're ruining the experience for everyone else". Even under the $69.99 3G plan you're paying for unlimited data. There is no cap over 3G or 4G with the EVO. Using rooted tether apps is questionable, but if you're paying the extra $30 on top of the $10 premium fee like jonathan is for Mobile hotspot then he's well within his right to use as much data as he wants over 3G or 4G. H8rz gonnuh h8.

 

[qitupx]

Did you read the OP?

It should be obvious that I did indeed read the post. If I did not, how the hell would my post even be relevant? I didn't read the post following though. No where in the original post does it say PAID mobile hotspot. I use mobile hotspot. The free version at least

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

It should be obvious that I did indeed read the post. If I did not, how the hell would my post even be relevant? I didn't read the post following though. No where in the original post does it say PAID mobile hotspot. I use mobile hotspot. The free version at least

OP makes it perfectly clear (even to me, and I haven't had my 4 pots of coffee yet today) that he is paying for the hotspot.

You're the one that costs the carriers money, by your own admission, not the OP. This thread is about someone using what they pay for. Not the "free lunch" that some are trying to make it out to be.

 

[Mdorty]

It should be obvious that I did indeed read the post. If I did not, how the hell would my post even be relevant? I didn't read the post following though. No where in the original post does it say PAID mobile hotspot. I use mobile hotspot. The free version at least

Okay, sorry, the sixth post on the first page by the OP.

And I'm not sure I understand...you first said he "better be paying for it", and then now say you're not paying for it...?

 

[Raptor]

There have been many articles that state that hosting data on a 4G network is actually cheaper for the carriers because of the speed. Less stress on the network because it gets your request done faster. I wish I could find the link, because now I look like I'm talking out of my ***. It was Verizon that said it, I think.

It will cost Sprint less to deliver a GB of data over 4G then 3G but it will still cost more to deliver 2GB on 4G versus 1GB on 4G. AND, the rate the data use is increasing is MUCH faster than the bandwidth that 4G offers over 3G.

But, as I said before, sooner-or-later this will be resolved when the carriers switch to metered billing. That way it won't mater what you do with your phone they will still get there money from your because the own the pipe and can know exactly how much data you use. So, even if you root so you can get the hotspot without paying for it they will still get you because of the data you use.

There is no free lunch so the carriers expect to be compensated more when you use it more. The current billing schemes do not take into account the fact that many have found a way around the fees they impose for things like the hotspot by rooting.

The early days of music downloading had only a handful of people doing so but as the software for sharing and downloading became more available and powerful the number of folks, with little or no tech experience that were getting there music by sharing/downloading increased to the point where the music industry is now on the verge of going out of business. The carriers are no doubt aware that rooting makes them vulnerable in a similar way but they have an Ace in the hole the music industry doesn't have -- they own the pipe!

Going forward the carriers will have to evolve the cell network to increase bandwidth for the ever growing number of smart phone users that all have an ever growing demand for data. Since the max bandwidth for a given cell/antennae is pretty well fixed the only way to increase bandwidth in an area is to increase the number of cell/antennae locations and run at lower power. As you can imagine that wont come for free so the carriers will need to be compensated for it or they will have only two options: throttle service or go out of business.

I foresee the day when a 5G or 6G network consists of many times the number of cell/antennae locations with office building have there own cell/antennae setup and likely many. That way the number of users on each cell/antennae can be kept to a lower number so the bandwidth isn't spread too thinly.

So, getting back to the current topic, the switch to metered billing will make the habit of streaming music and/or video and downloading large binaries very expensive so perhaps it would be wise to avoid developing those habits in the first place. I for one have 16GB of music and I carry that on my phone at all times so that I don't have to waste bandwidth streaming. It may not matter now with unlimited data but, as I said, when they go metered the habit of eating GB's per month for something you can easily avoid will prove unwise.


Brian

 

[theelite1x87]

How can you use that much data with the mobile hotspot? Sprint SPECIFICALLY told me when I asked, that when using the mobile hotspot feature, you are imposed a 5GB monthly cap. And must pay per MB after that.

 

[RupertP]

The following is an excerpt from an article on Precentral.net regarding unlimited data. Looks like the unlimited data could come to an end if it is abused.


Sprint has been the bastion of unlimited data in a land where the giants of AT&T and Verizon have either switched to the metered side, or have indicated it?s going to happen. But Sprint CEO Dan Hesse noted at the EmTech@MIT conference that if data usage gets out of hand, then Sprint?s unlimited data plans might got the way of the dodo, the dinosaur, and Lindsay Lohan?s film career. Says Hesse:

?We can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable. If you run an all-you-can-eat buffet, but you have the New England Patriots come in and the whole team spends a whole day there, I can't afford to do that anymore.?

True words, Mr. Hesse. The Sprint chief was sure to note that their 4G WiMax devices do command a $10-a-month higher charge than 3G-enabled devices, obviously because it?s easier to pull down more data over a faster 4G connection. For what it?s worth, the same thing happened when moving from $10-a-month 2G 1xRTT ?Vision? service to $15-a-month 3G EVDO ?Power Vision? service.

Hesse knows that Sprint users are fans of their unlimited service, and will be watching (and hoping) to see if they experience an influx of customers from AT&T and Verizon seeking to leave behind the metered data plans. Hesse himself is a fan of the unlimited concept: he is the owner of an unlimited car washes pass good for an entire year. ?I spend more probably than I would without it, but I enjoy not having to pay to wash my car each time.?

 

[bnob99]

The following is an excerpt from an article on Precentral.net regarding unlimited data. Looks like the unlimited data could come to an end if it is abused.


Sprint has been the bastion of unlimited data in a land where the giants of AT&T and Verizon have either switched to the metered side, or have indicated it?s going to happen. But Sprint CEO Dan Hesse noted at the EmTech@MIT conference that if data usage gets out of hand, then Sprint?s unlimited data plans might got the way of the dodo, the dinosaur, and Lindsay Lohan?s film career. Says Hesse:

?We can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable. If you run an all-you-can-eat buffet, but you have the New England Patriots come in and the whole team spends a whole day there, I can't afford to do that anymore.?

True words, Mr. Hesse. The Sprint chief was sure to note that their 4G WiMax devices do command a $10-a-month higher charge than 3G-enabled devices, obviously because it?s easier to pull down more data over a faster 4G connection. For what it?s worth, the same thing happened when moving from $10-a-month 2G 1xRTT ?Vision? service to $15-a-month 3G EVDO ?Power Vision? service.

Hesse knows that Sprint users are fans of their unlimited service, and will be watching (and hoping) to see if they experience an influx of customers from AT&T and Verizon seeking to leave behind the metered data plans. Hesse himself is a fan of the unlimited concept: he is the owner of an unlimited car washes pass good for an entire year. ?I spend more probably than I would without it, but I enjoy not having to pay to wash my car each time.?

Hesse can kiss his precious little company goodbye if they ever get rid of unlimited data. That is the only thing keeping customers with Sprint.

 

[Jerzyiroc]

While I can understand some of the points being made about "not getting into the habit" of using excessive data, I can't disagree anymore. The hell with what the future "might" be like. Right now, it's unlimited. So right now I'm gonna use the hell out of something that I'm PAYING for. When I go to all you can eat buffets, I eat all I can eat. Actually, I try and eat more than I can eat. Why? Because I paid for it. As of now we're paying for unlimited. If or when Sprint decides to remove the unlimited plan and start capping then it'll be time to start making some decisions. But until then, I say everyone has the right to use as much data as they damn well please since WE'RE PAYING for it. Probably not the best analogy, but I had a turbo'd Iroc. You think I drove it like an 80 year old grandpa because it "might" or "probably" will blow up? Hell no. It had almost 800hp. And trust me, I used all 800hp as much as I could. We have unlimited data. Use it. And use it as much as you can. To the hell with what "might" or "probably" will happen in the future. That's too boring of a way to live..