DID I BREAK THE RECORD? mobile data via android handset

[Brett]

OP makes it perfectly clear (even to me, and I haven't had my 4 pots of coffee yet today) that he is paying for the hotspot.

You're the one that costs the carriers money, by your own admission, not the OP. This thread is about someone using what they pay for. Not the "free lunch" that some are trying to make it out to be.

haha you tell him Jerry. J/k

please make sure you read the main posts if you are going to criticize it.

 

[Raptor]

Hesse can kiss his precious little company goodbye if they ever get rid of unlimited data. That is the only thing keeping customers with Sprint.

Well when ALL the carriers do away with unlimited who ya going to go with?


Brian

 

[Raptor]

While I can understand some of the points being made about "not getting into the habit" of using excessive data, I can't disagree anymore. The hell with what the future "might" be like. Right now, it's unlimited. So right now I'm gonna use the hell out of something that I'm PAYING for. When I go to all you can eat buffets, I eat all I can eat. Actually, I try and eat more than I can eat. Why? Because I paid for it. As of now we're paying for unlimited. If or when Sprint decides to remove the unlimited plan and start capping then it'll be time to start making some decisions. But until then, I say everyone has the right to use as much data as they damn well please since WE'RE PAYING for it. Probably not the best analogy, but I had a turbo'd Iroc. You think I drove it like an 80 year old grandpa because it "might" or "probably" will blow up? Hell no. It had almost 800hp. And trust me, I used all 800hp as much as I could. We have unlimited data. Use it. And use it as much as you can. To the hell with what "might" or "probably" will happen in the future. That's too boring of a way to live..

Your reference to cars is interesting ... let me go off from there...

The price of a gallon of gas is, like most things, based on supply and DEMAND. The greater the demand, all things being equal, the higher the price. Now, not all vehicles get the same gas mileage so in truth, the folks that drive more fuel efficient cars tend to drive the price/gal down whereas those that drive gas guzzlers tend to drive the price of gas up. So, if everyone drove gas guzzlers the price/gal would be MUCH higher than it is whereas if everyone drove a Prius the price/gal would be a lot less. So, getting back to cell phone, the heavy users of data drive the cost of cell service up by increasing demand.

The unlimited plans will wind up being the stupidest idea any company ever had because it does encourage users to use more than they would otherwise use. If you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet and eat more than you need/should you, in fact, raise the price of that meal for everyone BECAUSE the restaurants cost is increased and to make a profit as all business must they have to pass that higher cost along to ALL there customers. This boils down to simple greed and we are almost all guilty of it from time-to-time, goodness knows Wallstreet lives by it and as a consequence we are dying from it...


Brian

 

[bnob99]

Well when ALL the carriers do away with unlimited who ya going to go with?


Brian

Not all carriers will do away with unlimited. You will see the smaller prepaid carriers becoming more competitive with their offerings and pricings. They are already picking up android devices and offering better data plans.

 

[Jerzyiroc]

Your reference to cars is interesting ... let me go off from there...

The price of a gallon of gas is, like most things, based on supply and DEMAND. The greater the demand, all things being equal, the higher the price. Now, not all vehicles get the same gas mileage so in truth, the folks that drive more fuel efficient cars tend to drive the price/gal down whereas those that drive gas guzzlers tend to drive the price of gas up. So, if everyone drove gas guzzlers the price/gal would be MUCH higher than it is whereas if everyone drove a Prius the price/gal would be a lot less. So, getting back to cell phone, the heavy users of data drive the cost of cell service up by increasing demand.

The unlimited plans will wind up being the stupidest idea any company ever had because it does encourage users to use more than they would otherwise use. If you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet and eat more than you need/should you, in fact, raise the price of that meal for everyone BECAUSE the restaurants cost is increased and to make a profit as all business must they have to pass that higher cost along to ALL there customers. This boils down to simple greed and we are almost all guilty of it from time-to-time, goodness knows Wallstreet lives by it and as a consequence we are dying from it...


Brian

For the most part I agree. As far as the buffet, if they have to increase the price, then increase it. It's part of the territory. You'll get 10 people that'll spend 10 bucks to eat a moderate sized meal. Then you might get 1 person that ends up eating 3 bowls of rice, 20 chicken wings and god knows what else.. But my point is, so what? He PAID for "all you can eat". So he ate all you can eat. It's not his fault nobody else took advantage of it. We pay for unlimited data. It's not my fault that some people only use 1gb while I may use 5-10 or even more. I'm using what I pay for, unlimited data. If they have to increase the price, fine. But don't advertise an "unlimited plan" then complain that people are using too much. That's practically false advertising. Again, I'll be damned if I walk into an all you can eat, drop the 10 bucks, then get bs that I'm eating too much. Fine, don't call it all you can eat. Don't call it unlimited data. As long as it's called unlimited data, there is not one single reason to complain about using too much data. It's not greed, it's about paying for something and expecting to get what you pay for. Using 50gbs is NOT being greedy. Wallstreet is completely different. Wallstreet is filled with a bunch of rich bastards that want to be more rich, and have no problem screwing and taking away from those that arent rich, us, just to make them more rich. Totally different concept. I'd love to have a political debate on Wallstreets greed, but this isn't the forum for it.. As far as the car analogy, my analogy wasn't about fuel consumption. It was the idea that I had all the power I wanted, and never held back from using it because of what "might" happen. Just as if we pay for unlimited data, we shouldn't have to refrain from "using too much" because of what "might" happen. If you have it, use it... I understand your point about supply and demand but it applies only to a certain extent. With the unlimited data, we all pay the same flat price. With fuel, you don't. The price per gallon is based on where you live, who's their supplier, and taxes. Contrary to what people think, our price per gallon isn't based on supply and demand as much as people think. It's all BS. When gas prices went to $4+, the demand wasn't anywhere near what it's been in the past, and the supply was as high as it ever was. When fuel was still hovering around $1 fuel demand was actually higher than it is now. Like I said before, fuel and gas prices is a topic more for another forum. But all I'm gonna say it it's not the same as an unlimited plan for a phone service. We pay a flat fee, you don't with fuel. Also, I probably used more fuel in the few months I had that car than 10 Prius owners do in a year. But you know what, I PAID for every gallon. I PAID for every single ounce of fuel that was put in that tank. I paid MORE for fuel than the Prius owner. Not only because I used more, but also the type of fuel was a hell of a lot more money. The same isn't with our plan. Again, we all pay for the same unlimited plan. Some just so happen to use more than others. But those that do use more, don't pay more. Not the same with fuel. Should there be a tiered plan? I dunno. You can debate both ways. Some will say that it's not fair that they have to pay the same price for a plan as people that use more than them. Some will say too bad it's not our fault we use so much. I can see both sides. But as long as it's called "unlimited data". There is not one single reason in the world to self impose a limit on your unlimited plan.

 

[Darth Mo]

I don't understand this mentality that if the unlimited data has to come to end it's a "dumb business move" or they're "being greedy" or "I'm leaving because that's the only thing keeping me with them."

While bandwidth isn't something you can take home and put in your cupboard, it does cost money to produce. Large numbers of users sucking down massive amounts of bandwidth cost more money.

We see threads here all the time where people freak out because they can't connect to 3G/4G for a day and they flood Sprint with calls and threaten to return devices for a minor network hiccup. Guess what? That costs Sprint money to answer the phone and investigate the alleged issue.

People freak out when their 4G speed is down .75 Mbps last week and flood Sprint with calls. More money.

Now, network issues are going to happen, and people have every right to call and try to get it sorted out. But when the issues could potentially be caused by a minority of users hogging all the bandwidth, what do you expect Sprint to do but try to reel it in some?

Sure, you could expand the network and put up more towers. But now you've spent a boatload on equipment and now have the increased overhead of maintaining that additional equipment. That's not good business.

The deciding reason to pull the unlimited data would be when maintaining the quality of service on the network cuts too far into profit. While you may never see them, there is an army of people and equipment making this cell phone thing work, and it isn't cheap.

As I said before, we're paying for unlimited, so use it up. It's your right under you service agreement. I just don't understand how people can't see where it can become a detriment to the provider.

 

[derek5l]

Thats ridiculous

 

[jonathanlc2005]

We have unlimited data. Use it. And use it as much as you can. To the hell with what "might" or "probably" will happen in the future. That's too boring of a way to live..

correct, everyday cant be the end of the bible. its not a good way to live, ATLEAST IF YOUR PAYING FOR IT


also, if sprint is serious about excessive data then it doesnt make sense to allow virgin mobile unlimited data cards while leaving the sprint monthly contracts 5gb a month

 

[TheOnlyMorgan]

also, if sprint is serious about excessive data then it doesnt make sense to allow virgin mobile unlimited data cards while leaving the sprint monthly contracts 5gb a month

Yeah I still don't understand why they did this. Perhaps they want more numbers under the Virgin Mobile bank statement or they don't expect people to use so much data, but Sprint should be doing a no contract mobile broadband plan on their main service before Virgin. Oh well, can't complain though. Unlimited 3G use within a 30 day period for $40 I think? Damn good deal.

 

[jonathanlc2005]

i feel bad announcing this, but im living normal here... so...1 more GB to go

 

[Lupevalenz#AC]

Ohhh so Dan Hesse message must have been directed to you :O

 

[justinsaneeeee]

what is that like almost 6GB of data in one month yea see people unlimited is worth it : )

 

[jonathanlc2005]

what is that like almost 6GB of data in one month yea see people unlimited is worth it : )

more like 5.001GB

they put tiered data on sprint aircards but unlimited for sprint employees and virgin mobile. Dan hesse has a problem with me, i welcome his call. he has my number

 

[jonathanlc2005]

so i accomplished 50

 

[jonathanlc2005]

This sounds like a challenge!!!!!!!

I'm calling Sprint now to sign up j/k I'm not BUT i think it would be a great idea for some people who are actually paying for the wifi hotspot feature (NOT ROOT USERS ON BARNICLE OR WIFI TETHER) to ring out in this thread and let us know how much data you're using.

Oh, and no fibbing. Pictures or it didn't happen!

hey i was looking for the email... but im going to email you the picture and post here when the official bill comes because i noticed it was delayed in giving me the actual amount, although right now its 52 gigs because of netflix

i did sent the unofficial live amount to jerry.hildenbrand@androidcentral.com

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

All the OT and mean bits have been deleted. Use the report post button guys. Makes my part easier. And for the record, insulting the Admin gets the same response as insulting any of you guys or gals.

And yes, I got Jonathan's email. I'm speechless lol. More on that soon.

 

[jonathanlc2005]

And yes, I got Jonathan's email. I'm speechless lol. More on that soon.

awesome... please let me get the final though so its a complete number

 

[Gekko]

people like this who abuse the data plan may force Sprint to discontinue unlimited data and switch to tier plans. please don't be a pig just to be a pig. take what you want but take only what you need. don't ruin it for all of us.

thanks.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

awesome... please let me get the final though so its a complete number

If you insist Be sure to send me the total!

people like this who abuse the data plan may force Sprint to discontinue unlimited data and switch to tier plans. please don't be a pig just to be a pig. take what you want but take only what you need. don't ruin it for all of us.

thanks.

Abuse? Dude paid for this privilege. People who use 1kb without paying for it are the real abusers.

 

[caliskimmer]

I'm completely fine with people using data the way it's supposed to be used. I just hope that Sprint won't start the stupid data plans like Verizon and AT&T.