Doze, Samsung Optimize, Greenify, and the "Bad" Ones: Battery Life

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i reinstalled greenify to give it a try again.

yea, the problem for me is nonrooted with fignerprint security it can not do anything auto. its manual fore close apps. granted i can hit the greenify button and it runs though the list and force closes each app in its application settings window but apps that get restarted dont get closed again. It basically functions as an app killer in these conditions.

im using aggressive doze which is nice but isnt always wanted.

if i was using an insecure lock screen or was rooted this would be way more useful to me and be more than just an on demand app killer.

 

[Ronnie Price1]

I was getting great battery life without any added apps on my S7 edge. But I read an article on greenify that absolutely shows what it adds to the phone what doze doesn't. Im not sure what, exactly that is, but i will tell you that i noticed an even better battery life experience with greenify. Im never below 50 % at bedtime now with greenify. Im a moderate user. Prior to adding greenify, i would be in the low 40% bracket.

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ABSOLUTELY am with you 100% on my beneficial battery experience on my S7 edge while using Greenify!🖒🖒It's an awesome app!

 

[Ronnie Price1]

They have worked great together from my experience.

 

[enesha]

Re: Doze, Samsung Optimize, Greenify, and the "Bad" Ones: Battery Life

When I first started using Android in 2012, I initially used RAM booster apps that promised to increase performance & battery life. Not too long after, I realized through personal experience using such apps & reading about them, that there wasn't much, if any, battery savings involved.

The true battery killers were mostly GPS, bad signal quality, background data caused by rogue apps, and wakelocks keeping the phone active and preventing deep sleep (and now Doze starting from marshmallow).

Prior to using GS6E (and Samsung Pay), I used to root all my phones to installed Xposed & its battery-saving modules such as Greenify & Amplify. And they really helped with battery life. Greenify by hibernating those apps with excessive background activity & preventing their restart and Amplify with its ability to cut off or massively slow down the rate of wakelocks.

Since I don't root anymore so I can use Samsung Pay, I turn to apps like Greenify & ForceDoze that work even without root but through adb activation. They have made a trmendous difference to my battery life by keeping my awake percentage below 5% which leads to great standby battery drain rate which in turn leads to higher SOT.

Just a side thought since I don't use samsung pay, but can you use something like Hide My Root to use it? The fios app was preventing me from using the remote dvr service because it saw root, but after using Hide My Root (which basically just hides SU until you tell it to unhide) it works fine for me.

Just a thought.

 

[G Wokk1]

I'm not worried if they overlap, unless I can save some resources by disabling one (likely Optimize). Assuming they do fully overlap (which is my hunch).

Thanks KPM for your thread posting. I've enjoyed reading through the very well thought out posts and musings in this thread.

I'm wondering how you went KPM with your one month trial of greenify with Samsung optimiser? Was there any significant improvement in battery life?

My S7e battery has really declined recently with Android system and OS often taking up to 45% battery combined leading to SOTs of 3hrs average. After reading multiple forum threads, I've picked up Samsung package disabler and gone to town disabling unwanted bloat with a trial and error on packages that I want for certain things I like such as SPay (tui process).

Remarkably, Samsung bloat is still well alive in thinned down touchwiz albeit shoved under the carpet. My gf has a nexus 5X and her android system/os only uses 5-6% each with Android system only having 6 packages included. This is completely contrasted to my S7e android system which has over 100 included packages. The difference is just staggering. Clearly there's something wrong with Samsungs touchwiz android system, why does it need 20x more packages to run all the time??

I'm up to dealing with smart manager now which is needed for Sam optimisation...it takes up 50-70mb of Ram and I'm not sure if it is required above Greenify which I also have (non root).

Which one would should I disable? Smart Manager vs Greenify? I'm leaning towards keeping Greenify because of its doze features, although I charge my phone every night anyway because it's struggling to get through.

Also with greenify, there is some anecdotal evidence on forums that task killing/hibernation had led to worse battery life for some users on marshmallow. What sort of apps are people aggressively hibernating? I use Facebook a lot so should I hibernate that and spend the resources to reopen it every time I click it? Or should I leave it on the whitelist Knowing that it is a resource hog?

Thanks in advance, there are many questions and any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Domestoboto92x]

I have an Xperia Z2 on completely stock 6.0.1, I run Greenify (I ADB'd it,) and enabled 'Aggressive Doze' and 'Doze on the Go,' and the standby times I get is mindblowing - I wake up at best with 1 percent battery down with 9 hours sleep.

Given this, Should I still use Forcedoze? Because I read that i's even more potent if used together (even better battery savings supposedly or does it overlap with Greenify's Aggressive Doze and Doze on the go modes?

 

[CentralizationOfInfo]

Re: Doze, Samsung Optimize, Greenify, and the "Bad" Ones: Battery Life

Just a side thought since I don't use samsung pay, but can you use something like Hide My Root to use it? The fios app was preventing me from using the remote dvr service because it saw root, but after using Hide My Root (which basically just hides SU until you tell it to unhide) it works fine for me.

Just a thought.

Nope, a rooted phone means Knox is tripped (0x1) meaning you can't use Samsung pay.

What finds did the people who used both the Android app optimization and greenify make?