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Samuri you seem to be in the know. Speaking "on background"... from the point say jb is released from google to the point we bionic owners receive our update. How much of this time is actually spent creating the update compared with paper pushing, bureaucratic nonsense?

It would appear to me that quite a lot of time elapsed from when jb was released and when moto seriously begun the update process, specific to bionic.

Fortunately I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
 
It's complicated. Google will release the source. It could be months before Moto takes that and starts creating an engineering build from it. The engineering build is the basis for all the retail builds. They created one unified engineering build for RAZR, D4, and Bionic. This is different than previous builds where each one got their own engineering build. The first retail build that went to testing was created from the engineering build, was for RAZR, and was created on Dec 24, 2012. Date sounds familiar, yea? That's cause that's the date when the build leaked accidentally...before any testing was done. They've spent the remaining months doing D4 and Bionic builds and trying to get VZW to accept them. From a technical stand point, an engineering takes 3 to 4 days to compile, then a retail build takes a few hours from that. Testing takes 2 weeks. Approval takes another 2 weeks.
 
Ry said:
Did they remove the AOSP browser in favor of Chrome or did they just make Chrome the default browser?
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Don't know. That's a change I made on my Bionic since I started running ICS. The stock browser is disabled on my phone.
 
SamuriHL said:
It's complicated. Google will release the source. It could be months before Moto takes that and starts creating an engineering build from it. The engineering build is the basis for all the retail builds. They created one unified engineering build for RAZR, D4, and Bionic. This is different than previous builds where each one got their own engineering build. The first retail build that went to testing was created from the engineering build, was for RAZR, and was created on Dec 24, 2012. Date sounds familiar, yea? That's cause that's the date when the build leaked accidentally...before any testing was done. They've spent the remaining months doing D4 and Bionic builds and trying to get VZW to accept them. From a technical stand point, an engineering takes 3 to 4 days to compile, then a retail build takes a few hours from that. Testing takes 2 weeks. Approval takes another 2 weeks.
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Ha that's glorious. Year or so to do about a month or two of work. What do they work for the government or something?
Anyway thanks for the insight. Much appreciated.

Fortunately I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
 
drstrangelove5 said:
Ha that's glorious. Year or so to do about a month or two of work. What do they work for the government or something?
Anyway thanks for the insight. Much appreciated.

Fortunately I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
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More specifically, like dealing with congress, nothing gets done and it is the other sides fault (too much drama, even when moto tries to make it up to owners their hands are tied!)
 
Unless I am misreading Moto's post over on G+, sounds like the RAZR end user rollout is also happening now, too. Just like when we got ICS. So very, very long ago.... :'(
 
You, and pretty much everyone else, are misreading it, yes. Phase 1 = soak test. That's happening now and will end sometime on Sunday. During the soak test a limited number of non-soak participants will get it pushed to them. Phase 2 = rollout to first batch of users late Sunday night or early Monday. And then they will keep the batched rollout going until it's reached a majority of users. Final phase is rollout to all who haven't not gotten it.
 
SamuriHL said:
You, and pretty much everyone else, are misreading it, yes. Phase 1 = soak test. That's happening now and will end sometime on Sunday. During the soak test a limited number of non-soak participants will get it pushed to them. Phase 2 = rollout to first batch of users late Sunday night or early Monday. And then they will keep the batched rollout going until it's reached a majority of users. Final phase is rollout to all who haven't not gotten it.
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Sorry for what might be a technically naive question. I know the Razr and Bionic don't have the exact same specs but they're not worlds off. Why wouldn't the Razr build be essentially the same build as the Bionic?
 
AllPurposeRadio said:
Sorry for what might be a technically naive question. I know the Razr and Bionic don't have the exact same specs but they're not worlds off. Why wouldn't the Razr build be essentially the same build as the Bionic?
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Different partitions. The hardware is close enough where it'd work but the security and the partitions they chose for each phone wouldn't allow it. I'm told that the D4 is close enough where it works. But you don't want that build. Trust me. :)
 
I also want to point something out. I posted a link to a story that suggested that the Moto apps were removed in the RAZR JB build and replaced with Google apps. This story is WRONG. I don't know where they got their "change list" from but it's total nonsense. I was tipped off earlier by a RAZR user and so I pulled their update zip and looked at it. All the apps they claim are "replaced" are still there. So uh, no.
 
Hi SamuriHL - I've been following for quite a while. I am a Bionic ICS user. Just wanted to thank you and give you props for the updates. Very much appreciated.
 
SamuriHL said:
I also want to point something out. I posted a link to a story that suggested that the Moto apps were removed in the RAZR JB build and replaced with Google apps. This story is WRONG. I don't know where they got their "change list" from but it's total nonsense. I was tipped off earlier by a RAZR user and so I pulled their update zip and looked at it. All the apps they claim are "replaced" are still there. So uh, no.
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Every Android site I frequent posted the same thing about the Moto apps being removed. I don't know about anyone else but I don't really have any issue w/ the Moto apps and in the case of the email app FAR prefer it to the official Gmail app. Now all that VZW bloatware is a different story. ;)
 
AllPurposeRadio said:
Every Android site I frequent posted the same thing about the Moto apps being removed. I don't know about anyone else but I don't really have any issue w/ the Moto apps and in the case of the email app FAR prefer it to the official Gmail app. Now all that VZW bloatware is a different story. ;)
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I was given this link as the source:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/93191

Yet, I see some of those apps in the update. So I'm very confused on this.
 
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