DROID BIONIC Jelly Bean Update
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The claim is that they are concerned about the network stability. Google did a million dollar study to show that this is total and complete BS. There is no proof, for example, that rom users jeopardize network stability, and those roms obviously don't go through the "rigorous" (cough joke) testing that VZW puts official updates through. VZW would prefer that you never find out about that study. The real answer, of course, is politics. VZW likes to maintain "control". This, of course, is coming to an end. Big changes in the industry are coming but it won't happen overnight. I've warned you all to get used to buying unsubsidized phones....you'll see why soon enough. Watch T-Mobile closely over the next few months.
I think you're right. T-Mobile is going to be the carrier that keeps pressure on AT&T and Verizon by ditching subsidies and contracts. Google will keep pressure up from the device side. It's only a matter of time before AT&T and VZW start to feel it. I think the critical time will be when all three start to deploy LTE on AWS spectrum and VoLTE becomes prevalent. At that time we'll start to see more interoperability of devices and hopefully more competition.
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This is exactly correct. VoLTE is going to be prevalent starting next year on VZW. They're talking about starting to drop CDMA at the end of next year.
The claim is that they are concerned about the network stability. Google did a million dollar study to show that this is total and complete BS. There is no proof, for example, that rom users jeopardize network stability, and those roms obviously don't go through the "rigorous" (cough joke) testing that VZW puts official updates through. VZW would prefer that you never find out about that study. The real answer, of course, is politics. VZW likes to maintain "control". This, of course, is coming to an end. Big changes in the industry are coming but it won't happen overnight. I've warned you all to get used to buying unsubsidized phones....you'll see why soon enough. Watch T-Mobile closely over the next few months.
Oh, oh, oh, I'm totally reading between the lines, and then between those lines, to start the rumor that Google is buying T-Moble USA....
Oh, oh, oh, I'm totally reading between the lines, and then between those lines, to start the rumor that Google is buying T-Moble USA....
All joking aside, Google and T-Mobile have a long relationship. If I'm not mistaken, T-Mobile was the first to release a Android Phone. So, it would be fitting if Google wanted to shake up the wireless industry (which we know they want to do) with a already established player, why not go with T-Mobile.
If they start deploying on AWS frequencies, will they all work on each other's bands?
They'll have interoperability on AWS but probably not on other bands right away. The sweet spot for consumers is going to be a combination of the following factors:
- AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile all deploying on AWS
- All three deploying VoLTE
- Verizon ditching CDMA as a radio requirement
- T-Mobile completing refarming of AWS/1900Mhz spectrum
It will get even better when 1900 and 850Mhz spectrum currently used by CDMA and GSM get refarmed, but that's much further down the road.
How does it work to buy an unsubsidized phone? Order one from the Play store, Amazon, whoever, then take it into VZW to have it activated on your existing plan? I was grandfathered in on my unlimited plan when I got my Bionic. I'm fine with buying an unsubed phone, though a short payment plan would be nice. As long as I can keep the unlimited data.
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Right now the way it works is you either pay full retail price at VZW, or, you can buy it from someone else and activate it on your account. In a few years (at least on VZW....there was just an article on it this morning), there will only be unsubsidized phones. T-Mobile is planning on doing it this year, and they're suggesting that you may be able to spread out the cost. How others will ultimately do it is unknown. They're all watching T-Mobile to see how successful they'll be before they make any decisions to go that route.
A note on grandfathered unlimited....don't get too used to it. VZW has a stated goal of nuking it by the end of next year and forcing everyone into one of their "awesome" new plans.
A note on grandfathered unlimited....don't get too used to it. VZW has a stated goal of nuking it by the end of next year and forcing everyone into one of their "awesome" new plans.
Yeah, the grandfathered unlimited plans are an endangered species. I was looking at plan change options earlier this week and noticed that when trying to change minutes or text or data on our account that my wife's unlimited plan doesn't even show up as a current selection. Basically, if you change anything on the account or any of the lines online, it forces you to select a new data plan for the unlimited line even if all you wanted to change is something on another line.
Eventually, we're all going to be assimilated into the new plans one way or another at some point. For my wife and me it's going to be when the employee discount audit hits and we lose my old discount. The share your wallet plans will be significantly cheaper for us at that point given our data usage.
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In my case I'm seriously looking into why I'd stay on VZW if my unlimited is taken. I'm at a point where another carrier could make more sense. Even AT&T doesn't force locked bootloaders on their phones. So as VZW keeps pushing more and more bad decisions on their customers, I'm finding more and more reason to get the hell off of their network. At some point having the most coverage and the best network isn't worth it given all the restrictions.
Maybe in years to come you will be able to build your own phone instead of buying a prebuilt phone. Years ago most all computers where prebuilt and now you can build your own...lol
Actually there should be an option to choose not only phone but also an Os!!!
Think, when you go to buy a phone and you have an option whether you want android, windows phone 8, iOS or any other carrier OS.
What do you say guyz
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Think, when you go to buy a phone and you have an option whether you want android, windows phone 8, iOS or any other carrier OS.
What do you say guyz
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Uh, not quite what I meant, but, ok, fair enough. I've been building my own desktops since the early 90's.
Has any one actually tried to extend their contract recently with grandfathered unlimited plan?
Fortunately I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
Fortunately I was able to interpret these feelings correctly: loss of essence.
Man, I'd almost put this up with learning that Santa claus isn't real...
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Any chance the razr build was rejected last minute, and that's why the soak rest hasn't happened yet?
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I was told something happened on Friday with the RAZR soak but no information and haven't heard anything since. No new builds being tested either, so, I have NO idea what's going on with it.
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