G4 battery is worse on marshmallow.

[Catalin Esanu]

Sorry for posting twice. I tried to put two images, but it uploads only one. No, it's not rooted. H815T unlocked, running MM.

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[missmotta]

I'm glad I'm not the only one With Marshmallow battery woes!!
I updated my T-Mobile G4 a couple weeks ago and all was fine! I felt lucky that I didn't have to do a factory reset.
That is, until I noticed my phone getting hot, and strange things hogging the battery like android OS. Then it would be cell standby, followed by google, then the T-Mobile app decided to start sucking up 40%! It was all so strange and seemingly arbitrary. So, I backed everything up to my SD card, made sure my settings in Nova launcher were saved, did the dreaded factory reset and all was fine.... For about two Days.
Sigh... So then I read and read and researched and realized that if I toggle off ALL auto background sync ,including google, then my phone is totally fine. There's something that's working overtime when I enable google to have all its various things updating in the background. Even when I tried to turn all of them off that could be turned of with the auto sync set to ON, this problem persists.
So, I'm stuck with a phone that I have to manually check for emails, but at least I can still use it. I plan to check the apps daily in the play store to see which ones I want to update, trying to keep The bloatware from T-Mobile and other google apps that I rarely use off of my phone. Also, I don't have facebook installed. That would not be very helpful at this point.
Anyone else have to turn off their auto sync altogether???

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[Bruce39]

Now I have good battery life, am retired & a lot of time on my hands. Most (or all) of my issues were caused by the incorrect permissions. In some cases permissions not allowed (why? no clue but after fixing is OK) or allowed when I did not want. example - first day gps on 100% & using battery, deleted all location permissions for all apps. Problem solved; have since added location (1 app at a time) to apps I want. If you don't know - can go to app manager, click on app, click on permissions & change; also can go to app manages click on settings (3 dots on top right) configure apps, app permissions - shows all permissions, can then edit. You can also "disable" most bloat (removes from phone including app drawer - never to return) I have seen several apps that "disable" is grayed out & not allowed; I assume they were important system apps. You have to be VERY VERY careful when changing permissions or disabling apps. It is possible to really screw up your phone.

 

[LeoRex]

My wife's is about two weeks in now, and I'm getting a better idea.... from the looks of things, the battery life has improved overall, but that improvement is really build on the foundation of better idle usage. The phone sits a lot, so it kicks into Doze a fair amount. And with that, the amount of power consumed at idle frees up that power for active usage. In terms of active usage, there doesn't really seem to be any real improvements on that side of things.... I'm obsessive when it comes to power usage, so I am in there checking all the phones constantly.... and once that screen is on, it's consuming juice at a clip that is pretty much identical to LP.

I'm a little bit disappointed in this... for a slightly different reason... Yes, a more efficient phone would be nice, but the fact that there isn't really any improvement, or at least an improvement that is noticeable in day to day use, leads me to believe that LG has already kind of cast aside the G4 into 'maintenance'. They are just updating some stuff, keeping binaries up to date, etc... but the actual active development in the kernel amounts to doing a 'make all' and calling it a day.

And that points to a more overall complaint with OEMs... once the new model comes out, the previous generation becomes old news... and phones have advanced to the point where things are plateauing, so now people are most likely going to be holding on to those phones longer. So asking if a phone will still be actively updated over a year out of launch will be important. This is one of the many reasons why I kind of stick to Nexus for my personal phone... while a phone is still officially supported, Google maintains active development. The Nexus 5 has near all the software bells and whistles that my 6P does (short of a few things specific to the 6P, of course). The now-ancient Nexus 4, released in 2012, received its final security update in October (version 5.1.1 by the way).... 4 years after launch.

Rant over..

 

[revelations65]

I am not impressed with Marsh I can say honestly say there has been at least a 20% reduction in battery life, and what is more maddening is in the inept software, LG Bridge, coming from Blackberry this software is horrendous, trying to backup the phone continues to try to back up to the phone while the backup path set to the PC,
I want to wipe the phone, see if that improves the batter, I have since purchased a secondary battery, what is even sadder, my wife's Microsoft 640 gets better battery life
I feel Marsh could be the worse update an update is suppose to improve a phone, but in this case it has made things worse

They need to sort this out

 

[Disturbd1]

I wish root were possible on 6, I would love to play around with it.

 

[LeoRex]

I wish root were possible on 6, I would love to play around with it.

Well, it is on some. But they have unlockable bootloaders. As Google closes up security holes, finding workarounds to brute force root becomes harder and harder. It's getting to the point where if the bootloader is locked, there will be no hope of getting root access.

The S7, as some devs over in XDA have warned, may never be able to get root access.

But at least LG has moved in a good direction. The G4s that aren't locked down by their carrier, use the stock android bootloader (fastboot, OEM unlock and all that).

 

[Disturbd1]

Well, it is on some. But they have unlockable bootloaders. As Google closes up security holes, finding workarounds to brute force root becomes harder and harder. It's getting to the point where if the bootloader is locked, there will be no hope of getting root access.

The S7, as some devs over in XDA have warned, may never be able to get root access.

But at least LG has moved in a good direction. The G4s that aren't locked down by their carrier, use the stock android bootloader (fastboot, OEM unlock and all that).

I'm all for enhanced security - as long as it doesn't come at the cost of performance - but my gripe is that (to date) I've yet to see anything anywhere near as thorough as Titanium Backup when it comes to maintaining the same configuration and experience when either resurrecting a current device that needed to be reset, or migrating to a new one.

My limited experience on Marshmallow, back when I had a Nexus 9, was slightly frustrating in that external storage was not easy to access, but I do like the idea of security enhancements. Everything I've read in every forum on any device I have owned or shown interest in lately, has indicated that battery life has suffered after the person updated to Marshmallow from Lollipop, save for a few who completely reset their devices afterward. Which, I'm of the opinion should not be required to achieve or maintain decent battery life.

 

[LeoRex]

I'm all for enhanced security - as long as it doesn't come at the cost of performance - but my gripe is that (to date) I've yet to see anything anywhere near as thorough as Titanium Backup when it comes to maintaining the same configuration and experience when either resurrecting a current device that needed to be reset, or migrating to a new one.

My limited experience on Marshmallow, back when I had a Nexus 9, was slightly frustrating in that external storage was not easy to access, but I do like the idea of security enhancements. Everything I've read in every forum on any device I have owned or shown interest in lately, has indicated that battery life has suffered after the person updated to Marshmallow from Lollipop, save for a few who completely reset their devices afterward. Which, I'm of the opinion should not be required to achieve or maintain decent battery life.

Yeah, Titanium Backup is a great tool... I've been using it for years. But I will say that once the application developers finally include the new 6.0 backup API into their apps, that restore is going to be substantially more complete. I've checked it out a few times and if all the apps bought into the new model, I wouldn't have to use TB for anything. Now.. granted, the SPEED here is still an issue... It takes a long time to pull all those apps, and their app data, from Google's servers... What I've been doing is have a good backup set from TB, and once the restore portion dumps out to the home screen, I stop the Play Store restore and just use TB to pull in my user apps.

What I would kind of like to see is an option to do the restore a little differently. If you do the restore on 6, AND you use the Google Launcher, when it drops out of the Restoring window and you get your home screen with all those grey placeholder icons... Stop there, or give the user the option to halt the restore (or a list of apps that you want to pull down immediately). The apps you don't select stay as ghosts, then when the user clicks on one of those ghost icons, it goes and pulls the app and app data down.

As for issues related to upgrades, this is a tricky thing. I've been in software for a really long time and upgrades are often the bane of our existence, espcially major full point updates, which often pull in substantial core changes... completely overhauled API updates, changes runtime libraries, etc. Taking data from an old version and pulling it to the new version is usually one of the biggest challenges to any project I've worked on.... and more often than not, one of the biggest sources of field issues post-release.

So any time I've had a major upgrade, I keep it on a short leash.... if I start to see things so south, FDR.

 

[revelations65]

I had some battery issues what I did is first back up the phone then completed a factory wipe that seem to help
I suggest to wipe your phone after a major upgrade and also look at the poorly written apps that suck battery power
But it's a decent phone

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[tphg]

I had some battery issues what I did is first back up the phone then completed a factory wipe that seem to help
I suggest to wipe your phone after a major upgrade and also look at the poorly written apps that suck battery power
But it's a decent phone

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I also did a factory reset after using LG backup for my phone. After resetting, I used LG restore to get back all the previously installed apps, but there is problem that some apps lost their icons, so these app icons were replaced with the same "android robot" icons.
Did you use LG restore after resetting like me, or newly reinstall all the apps? I'm wondering that restoring apps and settings using LG backup is not the proper procedure to have a clean system.

 

[erlonbie]

Anyone else having issue on the 20D?

 

[AustinTechie]

I have had MM for some time now on my ATT G4. I have had the phone since June of 2015 and on Lolli, it was running perfectly. No issues.
As background, I work in a typical office building with lots of data centers in the building, so I have never been able to get good LTE in the building. No problems as the phone switched over to ATT "4G" 3.5G network for data and it worked fine. Battery lasted more than a day with a good amount of idle time, running "batter hog" apps like Facebook in the background was never a problem.

Now comes MM.

I constantly have issues in my building getting data flow on the ATT "4G" 3.5G data network - with full bars!!!. It is constantly pinging the towers and many times, I have to switch in/out of airplane mode just to get data to send. By 2-3pm my phone is running HOT, battery is now in power save mode and I haven't even made it to the end of the working day.

At home, I have WiFi issues that I never had before. WiFi keeps turning off. Not sure why. It never did this before.

I think there is something wrong with the radio management on this update and it is causing battery havoc.

Anyone else with similar experience?

 

[Inders99]

MM has squashed any enthusiasm I had for this phone.

 

[tardus]

Interesting news, battery performance has returned to pre-Marshmallow level!
I tried turning off Sync, but it made little difference, and I sync lots of stuff. Many email accounts and all the Google stuff. Next I disabled (when available) or uninstalled every app that I infrequently use. Unfortunately I don't know what the "bad" ones were - but there was most likely some kind of memory leak. I'm back to not having to swap batteries every day! At the end of the day - 11PM or so I still have around 30% left. I can live with that. Under 5.0x I had more but this is good enough. As a test I start off with a battery charged to 100% just before I go to sleep and the next morning see how much is left.

Here's before - from 100% to 62% overnight:



And after - from 100% to 96% overnight:



I conclude that apps that aren't well behaved under Marshmallow are the cause of much of the battery woes. Factory reset also helped - but removing the apps made a much more significant difference. I was able to get rid of apps I didn't need. If you absolutely need some apps that are not well behaved, the only thing you can do is wait until the app developer improves things on their end or the next system update improves things.

 

[tardus]

I haven't had to use my spare battery for days. Of course if you have an app that is essential and is killing the battery under Marshmallow - no solution for now. Almost 11AM and at 97%. It's like having my phone back!

 

[Inders99]

I haven't had to use my spare battery for days. Of course if you have an app that is essential and is killing the battery under Marshmallow - no solution for now. Almost 11AM and at 97%. It's like having my phone back!

I disabled almost every app, working better now, not quite L but better than crapping out in the middle of the day.

 

[Rich215]

I had pretty good SOT and very good battery performance......prior to the last OS update a week or so ago. Now the Android system is sucking most of the battery life.

Below shows phone data 30 minutes after I woke up from a nights sleep. Prior to that it was barely used from the full charge the morning day before. I saw after being on yesterday the GPS was pulling about 3/4 hours and I did not have it on.

Checked apps I use often and none had permissions to use GPS except weather app and google services or something. I usually keep the GPS set on battery saving mode....but every time I turn GPS back on....it defaults to "High accuracy".....WTF What could possibly be defaulting the GPS to use the high accuracy mode after I set to battery saving?

You can see the GPS was in use for several hours during my sleep time, because it only had about 4 hours of use prior to me going to sleep where I again made sure gps was off and it was on battery saving mode.

 

[kraze4u]

Data strenth isn't indicated by bars.

 

[Inders99]

I disabled almost every app, working better now, not quite L but better than crapping out in the middle of the day.

Forget that, after suffering initially with the MM roll-out I tweaked the phone some with help from members here and finally disabled just about every app I could and it started to come back to just under L levels...until yesterday...then the phone crapped out on me at 3:00pm after a less than average day of use. Dead...nada.

I'm back to hating this phone/roll-out.