Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on November 21st?

[Each3]

People also need to remember that the amount of people out there that know anything at all about upcoming phones is a tiny percentage of the customer base. 98% of people go in when they can get an upgrade, look at the phones on the shelf, maybe ask one of the workers, and pick something. 98% of Verizon customers don't have the slightest clue what a Nexus is.

It also depends on location and advertisement.

I came in expecting people to think the way you did on the Droid X launch but to my surprise there were people waiting outside for nearly 2 hours and I was the only one who missed getting one

 

[crzycrkr]

It also depends on location and advertisement.

I came in expecting people to think the way you did on the Droid X launch but to my surprise there were people waiting outside for nearly 2 hours and I was the only one who missed getting one

There isn't going to be much advertisement. Verizon has under 2400 stores in the US. They have 70 million customers. If there's 20 people outside each one of those store, that's still a ridiculously tiny percentage of people. I stand by my statement, a vast majority of customers have no clue and couldn't care less. As long as the new phone is shiny and faster than the last they're happy

 

[crzycrkr]

I don't think that the other phones figure into the Nexus release date that much.
I'm not personally subscribing to any theories that place any of the big three phones above the others in a majority of normal people's minds. Nor do I believe Verizon knows yet which of these phones they should bet on, and I do think they only want to bet on the one that's going to sell the most by itself. I believe that the only thing in danger here is the Nexus reputation in terms of readiness.
The iPhone, Razr, and Rezound all had release dates either announcable or pretty much ready when the phones were unveiled. My original prediction was that if Nexus does not have a release date by the time the other phones hit the store, people besides those of us who are eagerly anticipating it will become aware that one of these things is not like the others. They won't have the benefit of the saner minds and information we have here to balance out straight curiosity. Despite not ever having a hard release date, the phone will be questioned by some larger news outlet seeking to cherry-pick an easy + good tech story. I've seen one minor source already "putting two and two together" and claming the phone must not be ready.

I'm still personally of the opinion the phone will come out before this happens, but with all the ads everywhere on the internet, it could get ugly if it doesn't.

Despite (or possibly because of) all the info I am privy to here, color me still baffled.

Verizon doesn't want to bet on any one of them. They want all three to have some level of success. The other twobare without a doubt having an effect on the Nexus release date. Again, its just business. To compare it to something, look at video games or movies. You stagger release dates to optimize the sales of all of them. You don't put blockbusters from the same company against each other because one will pull sales from the other, and then you have more time before your next blockbuster. Very basic business

Edited for clarity

 

[crzycrkr]

But how does not giving a release date figure into that strategically?
Every summer, Pixar and Dreamworks go head to head for the family dollar. They often re-adjust their release dates if they learn the other will be a strategic conflict, but neither of them holds back on telling their release date. I'm not making predictions regarding the reasons, I'm predicting a possible repercussion.

Because a releasebdate might factor into some peoples decisions. Or they're not sure of the release date for the Vigor. Pixar and Dreamworks are two different companies competing for viewers. That's not a good example. That's more like Verizon releasing a high end phone at the same time as Sprint. They do that. You don't see Pixar release 2 or 3 movies at the same time. Verizon has a stake in all these phones. They want them all to do the best they can

 

[borgey401]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

We will know the official release date two days before the actual release. Same thing they did with the Galaxy S on Verizon last year.

 

[bxojr]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

Why, if Verizon has this phone on their website, don't they say anything about release date?

Why *should* they say anything about the release date? What possible benefit would there be for them to make a promise that they might have to break, if something causes a delay?

And make no mistake: if they announced a release date and then had to change it, they would get NO credit for having announced a date. People would instead criticize them for announcing a date and not sticking to it.

From their perspective, there is absolutely no down side to keeping things vague and not announcing the release until the phone is already in stockrooms and ready to go out the door.

Don't get me wrong: I do wish they would be more transparent. They could say "Hey, glad you're interested -- we're currently thinking it will be the week of Thanksgiving, but we have a couple of details still to iron out." But from a bottom-line perspective, there really is no reason for them to do so.

 

[STC09]

But they're are still other phones out there. You're talking about a few weeks. Its still really not Verizon's concern. They're not worried about a handful of people that might leave because their Droid dies before a phone that doesn't even have a release date comes out. The number of people that would actually leave over that is EXTREMELY small

You're right, there is another phone out there if mine dies before the GN arrives: the Nexus S. I can't speak for anyone else but I'm simply not going to waste time with used phones or proprietary UIs. If I'm happy on Sprint, for example, I'll probably transfer the other corporate phones over as their contracts expire. One of my acquaintances is in a similar situation but with fewer lines at stake.

This is just one data point, I know, but there it is. My point in entering this discussion was to refute the assertion that we're no worse off than before VZW began this wankathon.

 

[crzycrkr]

You're right, there is another phone out there if mine dies before the GN arrives: the Nexus S. I can't speak for anyone else but I'm simply not going to waste time with used phones or proprietary UIs. If I'm happy on Sprint, for example, I'll probably transfer the other corporate phones over as their contracts expire. One of my acquaintances is in a similar situation but with fewer lines at stake.

This is just one data point, I know, but there it is. My point in entering this discussion was to refute the assertion that we're no worse off than before VZW began this wankathon.

Okay, I understand, but I'm just saying that you are one of very few that will change companies over them taking too long in your opinion putting outback phone. And to be fair, I didn't say you were no worse off, I said your phone is probably not much differnet than it was before the Nexus announcement.

 

[crzycrkr]

Dude, that's your example...lol!
Just to be a butt, I'll point out that Pixar and Dreamworks releasing competing movies in the same theatre is very much like Moto and Samsung releasing competing phones in the same store.

To not be a butt, I'll point out that's not what I was talking about anyway.

I'm sorry, I was not clear. To be more specific, you don't see blockbusters from the same company released at the same time. I guess I didn't elaborate as much as I should have. Thought it would just be understood. Verizon doesn't want Moto and Samsung competing in their stores. That's the point. They want them both to sell to their fullest extent. Its a pretty simple concept

I edited my original post to make my point more clear.

 

[altimax98]

If you recall the accessories sites have said that they will start shipping on the 21st. Don't be surprised to hear the global released gets moved to the 21st as well. The 21st really adds up. I'm just upset I won't be able to go to the store at opening... I was excited for that.


Edit - I was right, I just found this http://www.handtec.co.uk/blog/2011/11/samsung-galaxy-nexus-shipping-update/

 

[STC09]

Okay, I understand, but I'm just saying that you are one of very few that will change companies over them taking too long in your opinion putting outback phone. And to be fair, I didn't say you were no worse off, I said your phone is probably not much differnet than it was before the Nexus announcement.

From my experience in managing a small fleet of phones is that often failures within a certain model run in clusters and the faults in mine are appearing in others. If that holds among others throughout the system and the launch is significantly delayed, there could be a statistically significant number of other Droid owners looking for emergency replacements. I understand the point someone else made about average users not caring about vanilla Android but that overlooks two points:
- OG owners are the group of vanilla users Verizon has and...
- there hasn't been anything worth upgrading to since we became eligible. Since I heard the first rumor of the Prime, I've been waiting for nothing else.

Not saying this is going to hurt Verizon a great deal but who wants to lose long term premium customers like that?

I just hope they release it soon so I don't have to worry about it.

 

[crzycrkr]

From my experience in managing a small fleet of phones is that often failures within a certain model run in clusters and the faults in mine are appearing in others. If that holds among others throughout the system and the launch is significantly delayed, there could be a statistically significant number of other Droid owners looking for emergency replacements. I understand the point someone else made about average users not caring about vanilla Android but that overlooks two points:
- OG owners are the group of vanilla users Verizon has and...
- there hasn't been anything worth upgrading to since we became eligible. Since I heard the first rumor of the Prime, I've been waiting for nothing else.

Not saying this is going to hurt Verizon a great deal but who wants to lose long term premium customers like that?

I just hope they release it soon so I don't have to worry about it.

I understand what you're saying. I just don't think there are too many people in your situation where they care that much over the Nexus. Sometime I think many here forget that we are the enthusiasts, not the norm.

 

[cdf3]

People also need to remember that the amount of people out there that know anything at all about upcoming phones is a tiny percentage of the customer base. 98% of people go in when they can get an upgrade, look at the phones on the shelf, maybe ask one of the workers, and pick something. 98% of Verizon customers don't have the slightest clue what a Nexus is.

You're correct. It's amazing how many people are walking around with an Android phone, and are pretty doing the same thing thy were doing on a regular phone. Phone calls, SMS, and some web browsing. I've run into quite a few users that had no idea you could add things to the homescreen.

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[crzycrkr]

Which is exactly what I was saying.
To return to the Movie comparison, if PIxar said "We're releasing our summer blockbuster July 5th" and Dreamworks said "We'll be releasing our summer blockbuster by the end of August" people would say "Oh, the Dreamworks movie isn't ready yet. They're probably still tweaking it"
That's what I'm hoping doesn't happen to the Nexus.
I never said they should all release together. When you say "Its a pretty simple concept", you make it sound like I don't understand, but I never addressed when they should release it. Only what I believe might happen if they don't announce the release date (whenever that might be).

Gotcha. I kind of read your comment following the others I was talking to and your post just kind of fell in with them in my head and I took it not the way you intended. Sorry, been a long day.

 

[FishPharm]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

This should be a learning point for Google and Samsung. Actually, they need to take a few pointers from Apple. If they are powerless to make contracts with Verizon that dictate when and how their products are released then they need to get with a carrier that does or at least put it on more than one carrier. Even though I am a Verizon customer, I feel they made a stupid move going with one carrier if Verizon is taking their sweet time releasing the phone and worrying more about Droids etc. If they would have went to another carrier also then you would have seen Verizon breaking their ballz trying to release it before the other carrier. As you can see by the iphones smooth release, Apple has some very restrictive contracts in place for their launches.

 

[kvlt]

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Not sure how many of you have seen this but seeing as how i lurk quite a bit around these forums and have yet to see it..

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLATjBC_x2Q[/YT]

Pretty horrible interview or advertisement in general, but everytime i hear that "later this year" it makes me cringe...

 

[Vanilla Ice]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

Not sure how many of you have seen this but seeing as how i lurk quite a bit around these forums and have yet to see it..

Pretty horrible interview or advertisement in general, but everytime i hear that "later this year" it makes me cringe...

Nice find buddy! Funny how Verizon keeps Samsungs mouth shut. He should of just spilled the beans and gave us a release date!

 

[crzycrkr]

This should be a learning point for Google and Samsung. Actually, they need to take a few pointers from Apple. If they are powerless to make contracts with Verizon that dictate when and how their products are released then they need to get with a carrier that does or at least put it on more than one carrier. Even though I am a Verizon customer, I feel they made a stupid move going with one carrier if Verizon is taking their sweet time releasing the phone and worrying more about Droids etc. If they would have went to another carrier also then you would have seen Verizon breaking their ballz trying to release it before the other carrier. As you can see by the iphones smooth release, Apple has some very restrictive contracts in place for their launches.

Why do you assume that Google and Samsung were powerless. For all anyone knows, the phone will be released right when everyone involved wanted it to be. And of course Verizon is going to worry more about the Droids, how much are they paying Lucas every year? Everyone needs to relax and remember that there hasn't been a date assigned. The phone is not late.

 

[anon(512898)]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

This could very well be samsung and not verizon. There are rumors that the euro launch date might get pushed back earlier in this thread so it is not just the verizon version. It could be that samsung is having supply issues, they may have expected demand in line with previous nexus launches, but this launch already has much more hype surrounding it. This increased demand that samsung sees could be triggering a launch delay while they build up enough stock for a good launch

 

[ultravisitor]

Re: Galaxy Nexus Web Site Only Release on the 21st?

This should be a learning point for Google and Samsung.

Why? What makes you think Google and/or Samsung feel they have anything to learn from this? Do you happen to know for a fact that either company is unhappy? Or are you just coming to this conclusion because you are too impatient to wait for some official word?