Galaxy Note 10.1 4.3

[Haalcyon]

Someone pointed out you have to pay for MS upgrades to windows. Its a simi good point with a few exceptions. First MS does not release a new version of Windows every single year. There are huge gaps in versions. Second MS does all the R&D for Windows and pays developers and code writers etc. Samsung pays nothing for the Android OS. They only pay for the folks to skin it. So there is a big difference in expecting an upgrade on our phones and tablets.

I'm all for academic discussions. No really. The only way the folks in this thread are going to get the updates they want close to when they may want them is with a Nexus device or maybe a GPE device. Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. are just not going to provide what has been stated is desired. The horse seems dead to me but we can kick and beat it all day long. I just don't think it's gonna move.

from the legendary secondary Note II

 

[Golfdriver97]

I'm all for academic discussions. No really. The only way the folks in this thread are going to get the updates they want close to when they may want them is with a Nexus device or maybe a GPE device. Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. are just not going to provide what has been stated is desired. The horse seems dead to me but we can kick and beat it all day long. I just don't think it's gonna move.

from the legendary secondary Note II

Or flashing an AOSP ROM.

From a Sprint Moto X using AC forums app

 

[Haalcyon]

Or flashing an AOSP ROM.

From a Sprint Moto X using AC forums app

Absolutely.

from the legendary secondary Note II

 

[enigmax]

The only way the folks in this thread are going to get the updates they want close to when they...

... dont even consider to buy Samsung anymore.

I just read the news, iPad rules in companies and now >Surface< is going to follow.

I wonder why it is not Samsung Galaxy Note -devices. It is well marketed to companies, even Samsung has www-sites for business and Note is advertized there. Note-devices have got great feedback and reviews. Only thing Samsung didnt advertized is "a 6-12 months life cycle" (read form here) and the compatibility issue when sharing files between Notes (faced that in a real world). It makes me wondering why Samsung isnt popular in a business world... Reviews are great, the concept is good, devices are build well... What could be the reason? Could it be that "sell it to a customer and forget the customer" thing? Nooo, people are going to change their devices on every year, maybe even twice a year (read it from here). So that cant be the reason, or can be? What about "build a concept of Note-serie but make devices incompatible together"? No, not again.. People change their devices anyway as they do change their socks. That cant be the reason either, or...? So I only wonder why it is not Samsung that follows iPad...

Like I said before, we are going to start using tablets at work and I already decided that hundred tablets we are going to buy, are Note-devices. But now when I have seen and read this thread and faced the problem IRL I have changed my mind. There are even customers here who justify that "Hey, it's okay that Samsung doesnt provide updates. Why are you even expecting that? They dont make any profit, only wasting their time... Why should they offer anything for you?"

I guess, I just need to accept the fact, Android is only for an average customer (as it was said) who doesnt expect anything and Samsung concept is only "sell and forget". I need to follow others and choose iPad (or Surface?), not the ideal device at work, but at least you dont need to worry about compatibilities...

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[Haalcyon]

The fragmentation that is Android is not one of its better attributes. Fortunately, business is not a market Samsung needs...it would have to change its strategy to attract the business world.

 

[LegalAmerican]

Not sure if I'm lumped in on this post but I can say that I'm not one to get a new device every 6 months (anymore). I wait just as long as others do now or try to find deals on eBay. I know what it's like to have a device that rarely get updates. I had the Motorola Photon for a while and that didn't get any love from Sprint or Moto.

Going with what you said above, don't assume that just because we don't expect updates that we always get the newest devices as soon as they come out.

I don't know what device you use and so I probably wasn't necessarily talking about you in that post. I know there's many who don't expect updates using old devices. But my point is, people with brand new devices who know they will always HAVE brand new devices are going to have a very easy time not caring about updates. When you know you'll probably use your current device to the death, it's easy to get update envy when you're constantly reading about how the Moto X or Nexus 7 or HTC One are getting updates. Especially when you're using a device that was pretty close to top dog just 2 or 3 months ago.

My point is, you will never convince the vast majority of people who follow technology that updates shouldn't be expected or anticipated. We all know there's no guarantees, but there's still that hope that lingers on. If you're in disagreement with those who get upset, I understand. But you don't have to continually derail the thread which is intended to discuss the possibility and hope for Android 4.3 and turn it into a debate about whether or not updates should be expected.

 

[MS3GT]

The fragmentation that is Android is not one of its better attributes. Fortunately, business is not a market Samsung needs...it would have to change its strategy to attract the business world.

I could've sworn when they were marketing the Note II, Samsung aired alot of business/office commercials. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

I am Aquaman.

 

[Haalcyon]

I could've sworn when they were marketing the Note II, Samsung aired alot of business/office commercials. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

I am Aquaman.

I didn't say it was a market they didn't want. ...just one they don't need. Greed is greed.

Nexus 7

 

[UJ95x]

I didn't say it was a market they didn't want. ...just one they don't need. Greed is greed.

Nexus 7

I still see a lot of business men and women with the Note 2. More so than I do with iPhones

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[Haalcyon]

I still see a lot of business men and women with the Note 2. More so than I do with iPhones

Posted via Android Central App

Makes sense. Some want to be extra productive. The Note 2 vs the iPhone would allow for that via S-Pen.

 

[MS3GT]

I didn't say it was a market they didn't want. ...just one they don't need. Greed is greed.

Nexus 7

I don't understand why they would spend their money marketing for business if they didn't need or want the market.

I am Aquaman.

 

[Haalcyon]

I don't understand why they would spend their money marketing for business if they didn't need or want the market.

I am Aquaman.

Because their wallet is bottomless pit would be my guess. Samsung is in so many different markets why not add another.

Nexus 7

 

[UJ95x]

Looks like the folks at TechnoBuffalo are reading through these forums.
Posted today: Where Are My Android Updates?! - YouTube

 

[enigmax]

Looks like the folks at TechnoBuffalo are reading through these forums.
Posted today: Where Are My Android Updates?! - YouTube

That guy miss the one big point. He's talking about any phones... Phones from 3 year old to this day. But here, we are talking about a concept, Note-serie which should be the premium line of Samsung. What premium is in the concept, when the phones from the same line barely a year old devices cannot even share files together?

Haalcyon, dont be ridiculous. Samsung wants business customers, they need them. It's no only making profits. They have their own market area for business. They have own solutions for business. And the only reliable source getting money is the business area. If customers change their mind they buy another devices from other company. The cuwtomer is lost and getting the customer back is not easy. Business doesnt work like this. If they are going to change their devices, it's takes years.

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[Haalcyon]

Haalcyon, dont be ridiculous. Samsung wants business customers, they need them. It's no only making profits. They have their own market area for business. They have own solutions for business. And the only reliable source getting money is the business area. If customers change their mind they buy another devices from other company. The cuwtomer is lost and getting the customer back is not easy. Business doesnt work like this. If they are going to change their devices, it's takes years.

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But I'm so often good at being ridiculous. No, seriously, you're right. Samsung has improving to do.

 

[J HighNote]

Samsung really has no incentive to update the old 10.1 or Note 2 to 4.3. It costs them money to do so and unless there's a SIGNIFICANT bug only the new OS can address it's not fiscally in their best interest to pay engineers to develop updates for older devices. Some feel entitled to these OS upgrades but in all honesty you paid for a stable working product and the OS it came with. I don't think Samsung would agree that you paid for a year or two of free OS upgrades.

from my '14 Note 10.1

I agree with you, I hope Samsung is not quite so greedy. I don't need ALL the upgrades but I remember having a Sidekick and finally being forced to upgrade because half the time the browser couldn't handle something on the net because they just stopped supporting it at all. It did NOT lead to product or company loyalty. But I can see their view to not give us EVERYTHING. If I'd gotten multi-view on my original Note, I'd have never seen the need for the 10.1 and gosh how I love my tablet! I just never knew I needed one!

 

[Haalcyon]

There was a lot of constipation because only the Note 3 supported the Galaxy Gear at launch but it looks like a lot of other Samsung phone will be getting updates to support it as well.

'13 NeXus 7

 

[enigmax]

There was a lot of constipation because only the Note 3 supported the Galaxy Gear at launch but it looks like a lot of other Samsung phone will be getting updates to support it as well.

'13 NeXus 7

It' not only the Gear thing. Incompatibility of SNote files is even bigger problem than having Gear. Some of our project has GN3 and after he made some changes to a file, rest of us cannot open the file more. Nice work!

Samsung made their OWN application incompatible for sharing files between devices among their Note-serie. The whole Note-serie is build around SNote. Did they think about problems their customer will face? No. Then I read from other place that their customer support has said that SNote is only for personal use on the same device not for sharing files. This means you cannot use another than your device or you will loose your notes, you cannot share them to anyone, not even between your own devices. Why Note is marketed to business and schools then? Now they are giving ridiculous excuses when they messed things, spoiled their own application making it incompatible. Yes, lots of phones getting updates, but they dont even care to keep their premium line, Note-serie compatible together!? FAILED!

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[Haalcyon]

It' not only the Gear thing. Incompatibility of SNote files is even bigger problem than having Gear. Some of our project has GN3 and after he made some changes to a file, rest of us cannot open the file more. Nice work!

You are dead on accurate about that. I cannot believe Samsung completely dropped the ball on that. It's an issue that needs to get corrected quick-fast-and-ina-hurry.

 

[jlschulz]

Based on what I've seen of the new note, I'm not thinking that I want the update. Theyve done away with the cascade view which I use extensively, and the s-note isn't compatible with the current version and no longer has the math capability which I use a lot in class. I'm really content with the current version. What we will lose is not worth the update.