Gimme back my lollipop! [LG G4]

[rdt595]

Anybody tried going back to lollipop from marshmallow? Can it be done? Not finding anything positive about this upgrade.

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[ShaneRay]

I thought I had read somewhere that it was possible. On Xda, maybe? Perhaps search there.

Too bad you're having issues. In my case, I've noticed little difference between Marshmallow and Lollipop on the G4. The phone runs, and acts, just about the same....

 

[jlo3378]

Anybody tried going back to lollipop from marshmallow? Can it be done? Not finding anything positive about this upgrade.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3322616

 

[rdt595]

Thanks I'll give it another week and see what happens.

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[JayWill]

Thanks I'll give it another week and see what happens.

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Have your tried an FDR without restoring a backup yet?

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[Inders99]

Anybody tried going back to lollipop from marshmallow? Can it be done? Not finding anything positive about this upgrade.

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Terrible update, I hate being a beta test for Android/Carriers/Manufacturers.

I just popped over to the Sammy forums and either they haven't received MM yet or it's so smooth it's transparent. If they haven't received it yet I can't wait to read the festivities once they do.

 

[Inders99]

Have your tried an FDR without restoring a backup yet?

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Not directed at you specifically but this is thrown around the forum as a panacea for all ills. I really object to having to do a FDR to get my phone working properly and many times it's reported back here that the FDR accomplished nothing. Although I back up all my data, there is inevitably something messed up when the FDR is done. These phones should not have to go through FDRs or hours of trouble shooting after an update. Most of the people I know don't have a clue about this tech stuff and why should they? I just get frustrated sometimes on how weak and poorly executed Android is in some areas. Apparently it's not an issue with Android/Carriers/Manufacturers since the pace of updates, the quick fix patches, and sluggish roll-outs continue.

I know iOS is not perfect but I don't know anyone who owns these phones that go through this garbage every year or so, there's a reason it sells.

 

[Joshua Luther2]

If a person is unhappy using and tinkering with Android phones, then perhaps iOS is a better fit for them. In my opinion, if you can afford it, unlocked Android phones are the way to go. Nexus phones especially. Unfortunately where most of the money is, is where the most stability is found. This is true on both Android and iOS. This is one of the reasons why so many people buy Samsung and Apple phones. Because that's where the money's at and so the companies will support those devices for longer and invest more in them.

 

[Inders99]

If a person is unhappy using and tinkering with Android phones, then perhaps iOS is a better fit for them.

So you're saying that the millions of Android users out there need to be able to tinker? Really? How about a product that works?

 

[Joshua Luther2]

It's just my opinion of Android vs iOS. The option to tinker is there. I just think that devices that have a lot of money behind them are more stable because Apple and Sammy have more money to invest in their devices. It's kind of the saying that you get what you pay for. Most people would agree that a carrier update on a Samsung phone is different than a Sony or LG phone.

 

[Joshua Luther2]

If stability is one's main concern then they need to go for the more expensive phones. Logic tells me that quality and stability will decrease as the price decreases.

 

[rdt595]

Have your tried an FDR without restoring a backup yet?

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No...I plan on doing that as a last resort.

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[stmax]

If stability is one's main concern then they need to go for the more expensive phones. Logic tells me that quality and stability will decrease as the price decreases.

Part of me wonders if we have slowly been dumbing down the Android OS to cater to this market. E.g. The doze feature. A cool feature but the old Android would have let me set or at least know how long the phone has to sit still to activate. Everywhere I read that it kicks in after being still "for some time". Really?

Another example battery saver. I used to be able to kick it in after 50% or other levels. Now just 15% with no options about what it does... ie maybe I only want to decrease data sync with a lower screen level without the magic wand effect of other actions where I have no idea what's going on.

 

[momo662]

Since I haven't received MM yet (TY Tmobile) I have to ask if the update is any different than what is being installed on the new upcoming phones??

A lot of people seem to want to go back to Lolli - is it just different processors that make MM?

 

[kraze4u]

I agree with you about buying your phone unlocked. I bought my G4 unlocked and carrier free.

 

[JayWill]

Not directed at you specifically but this is thrown around the forum as a panacea for all ills. I really object to having to do a FDR to get my phone working properly and many times it's reported back here that the FDR accomplished nothing. Although I back up all my data, there is inevitably something messed up when the FDR is done. These phones should not have to go through FDRs or hours of trouble shooting after an update. Most of the people I know don't have a clue about this tech stuff and why should they? I just get frustrated sometimes on how weak and poorly executed Android is in some areas. Apparently it's not an issue with Android/Carriers/Manufacturers since the pace of updates, the quick fix patches, and sluggish roll-outs continue.

I know iOS is not perfect but I don't know anyone who owns these phones that go through this garbage every year or so, there's a reason it sells.

I don't disagree with your premise, but thus is the state of Android as it stands now. It goes back to the age old debate of open vs. closed. As long as you have OEMs altering the original source to suit their hardware and software goals, and carriers further altering it to suit their goals, things like systems running amok will be more likely, and steps like a FDR after a major OS update will be a more common last resort. And there's even an inherent flaw with Android relative to iOS, in that the Android OS isn't specifically designed for a particular hardware configuration.

I prefer open personally, and I'm willing to deal with the possible side effects of that. Not everyone is however, or even knows the difference.

 

[Inders99]

I prefer open personally, and I'm willing to deal with the possible side effects of that. Not everyone is however, or even knows the difference.

Oh I get it, but I'd venture a guess that 9 out of 10 Android users have never even heard of a FDR. I get the whole open source thing and trust me, if it was for personal purposes I'd be a bit more lenient but my phone IS my business portal and with that I have a lot less tolerance. Someone and I don't know who (carrier/Google/manufacturer) does a lousy job of these updates. A roll-out is supposed to make things better, not worse, if I ran my business like that I would't have one.

 

[rdt595]

I don't disagree with your premise, but thus is the state of Android as it stands now. It goes back to the age old debate of open vs. closed. As long as you have OEMs altering the original source to suit their hardware and software goals, and carriers further altering it to suit their goals, things like systems running amok will be more likely, and steps like a FDR after a major OS update will be a more common last resort. And there's even an inherent flaw with Android relative to iOS, in that the Android OS isn't specifically designed for a particular hardware configuration.

I prefer open personally, and I'm willing to deal with the possible side effects of that. Not everyone is however, or even knows the difference.

I agree with that last statement.
Pain sometimes but I'd rather have it.

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[Allen Brandt]

I did the downgrade from marshmallow back to lollipop. Download the LGUP program (2 zipped files), the find the right kdz file for your specific version. I have the T-Mobile 10n version if someone needs me to figure out how to post.

After that, it's pretty automated: load LGUP, point it to the kdz file, press start, and walk away. Takes about 10 minutes. If you had done a recent LG backup before the update, then you just run the program and in a few more minutes, most of your files and settings are back the way they were. Does not require a rooted phone, but I do think you need to have developer options enabled.

If you want to downgrade, it's really one of the easier things out there

 

[Joshua Luther2]

Let us know how different the phone is.