Google Nexus 6 on Verizon

[Eric The Duke]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

No one knows. My guess is that VZW and Google worked out their differences because of the Galaxy Nexus problems. THey probably don't want that again.

 

[Crispy]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

There are plenty of threads on this exact issue. Short answer - no one knows.

 

[infinity12402]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

There are plenty of threads on this exact issue. Short answer - no one knows.

This. And the fact that so far there's only two versions of the phone. The north American and the International. So Idk how they would manage to mess with the updates when they all seem to be strictly from google.

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[tdizzel]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

Are you asking if the phone will have no parents? You do realize that phones are made in a different way than people are, right?

 

[Benjamin_NYC]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

I hoping like others that it doesn't matter when VZW has their N6 phones in store, as next Wed is pre-order day for N6 and it SHOULD be the same. Buy from Playstore, insert sim and poof! Best coverage their is on a N6

You cannot just put a SIM in and be active on Verizon's network.

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[Ry]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

They've got the Moto X. And the DROID TURBO coming. And the Note 4. And the Z3v too.

I think those would more than make up for lack of Nexus 6 sales.

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[Ry]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

Are you asking if the phone will have no parents? You do realize that phones are made in a different way than people are, right?

lol!

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[Ry]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

No one knows.

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[radyoactive]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

You cannot just put a SIM in and be active on Verizon's network.

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Verizon's LTE phones all use SIM cards, just move it from phone to phone.

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[GTvert90]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Verizon's LTE phones all use SIM cards, just move it from phone to phone.

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If you don't want to make phone calls or have 3g...

 

[nickacs]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

You cannot just put a SIM in and be active on Verizon's network.

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Oh, so maybe I'm not understanding how the N6 will work then. I know, currently, you can't take SIM's out of one phone on say TMobile network and put in a VZW phone, mainly because of the different SIM sizes (micro/nano/etc). However, with the N6, since it's the same phone hardware model for all the 4 major US carriers, if I bought the N6 for on my TMobile network with nano SIM information, I could move to VZW and get another VZW nano SIM and put it right in the N6 and everything works fine?

No? Just wondering... If there are different models of the N6, one for TMO/AT&T/Sprint and another for VZW, then I can see this won't work.

Thanks!

 

[Jeremy8000]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

This. And the fact that so far there's only two versions of the phone. The north American and the International. So Idk how they would manage to mess with the updates when they all seem to be strictly from google.

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There may only be 2 models, and only 1 model for USA, but that doesn't mean the same exact one will be shipped from Moto to Verizon for resale as to AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc... iPhone 6 has just one model number sold by both T-Mobile and by AT&T, but each carrier has its own unique SKU. This could, in the case of these iPhones, simply mean a difference in packaging -- or it could have be indicative of other differences in the handset itself in terms of bloat, sim-lock, etc.

 

[bplewis24]

Re: The on-contract AT&T/Verizon Nexus 6 will come with bloatware

Wrong, Google does have the right to decide what pure Android is. Pure Google and pure Android are different

Part of the confusion is people continuing to use the term "Pure Android." Pure Android is not a thing. Whatever AT&T or Motorola used for their description is simply a marketing term. It's not real. There is only AOSP, and everything else. Part of that "everything else" is the Pure Google experience, which is what comes on Nexus devices. Using the term "pure android" is only going to confuse people further.

Does Google have enough influence over the carriers to prevent them from installing bloatware on the Nexus 6?

They don't need influence to prevent this. It's not going to happen.

no they won't. They didn't with the nexus 5, and when verizon sold the galaxy nexus it had i believe 2-3 preloaded verizon apps.

Correct. But keep in mind, Verizon had their own specific model/version number of the Galaxy Nexus. There is only one model of the N6 domestically, just like there was only one version of the N5. The one sold direct from Sprint was not loaded with bloatware. Why? Because it would be a waste of resources to allocate batches of the same model phone from the manufacturer, pay their team to unpackage/repackage and install bloatware on something that they are going to sell for the exact damn price without doing all that, and another carrier is then making higher margins on the phone, because it's the same damn model.

Yes, it's possible somebody could go to all that trouble. It's also possible that Google expressly forbade them from doing so with contract terms. But I'll stand firm in my prediction that all four carriers will be selling the same version of the phone with zero changes in the kernal, framework or other software.

If this is true then our worst fears are confirmed, and of course Verizon can only be worse.

But it's not true. It's horse manure.

Google is responsible for the core framework of AOSP, its in the mission and guidelines for AOSP.

Contribution from other sources is also included especially the OHA.

There's a difference between a core framework (SOA for example and the ESB/Apache projects) and the UI/applications that run "on top" of the framework.

Android would be akin to Gnu/Linux
Google Nexus akin to RedHat or Ubuntu
TouchWiz (Sammy) is more like a NetApp who takes a core (BSD) and heavily mods the framework.

Its an odd paradigm that doesn't translate well, but if Linus Torvalds starting releasing his own spin of Linux, well that would be about the closest comparison to what Googles relationship to AOSP is. If this ever happened you can see how folks would consider the Torvalds spin as "pure Linux" and that's kind of why Google Nexus and AOSP are blurred. Who'd know the kernel and core API better than the authors/owners.

^^^ You guys would be smart to listen to this guy.

 

[Benjamin_NYC]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Verizon's LTE phones all use SIM cards, just move it from phone to phone.

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So I guess you don't want to use anything except for LTE?

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[Benjamin_NYC]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Oh, so maybe I'm not understanding how the N6 will work then. I know, currently, you can't take SIM's out of one phone on say TMobile network and put in a VZW phone, mainly because of the different SIM sizes (micro/nano/etc). However, with the N6, since it's the same phone hardware model for all the 4 major US carriers, if I bought the N6 for on my TMobile network with nano SIM information, I could move to VZW and get another VZW nano SIM and put it right in the N6 and everything works fine?

No? Just wondering... If there are different models of the N6, one for TMO/AT&T/Sprint and another for VZW, then I can see this won't work.

Thanks!

Verizon uses SIMs for LTE only. For CDMA such as 1x, you need them to manually register the phone on their network. Nothing to do with how the N6 works. Just the way CDMA carriers in general work.

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[radyoactive]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

So I guess you don't want to use anything except for LTE?

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Are you guys assuming that buying from the Play Store would be like the Nexus 7 LTE? I think the difference is that the Nexus 7 does not have 3G radios built in.



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[radyoactive]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Verizon uses SIMs for LTE only. For CDMA such as 1x, you need them to manually register the phone on their network. Nothing to do with how the N6 works. Just the way CDMA carriers in general work.

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I just read this, I misunderstood your original post.

I'm hoping that is not the case on the 29th, I plan to buy a N6 for Verizon from the playstore if that is the only place taking orders.

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[MRW1215]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Verizon uses SIMs for LTE only. For CDMA such as 1x, you need them to manually register the phone on their network. Nothing to do with how the N6 works. Just the way CDMA carriers in general work.

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If you activate the phone online, via Verizon's website, don't they ask you for the IMEI, or something like that? Does that not give them enough to "activate" the phone?

 

[dpham00]

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

In general, so long as it is a Verizon branded phone, then you can swap sims directly. No need for Verizon to manually do anything on their end. This is true even if you buy phones on eBay or CL or whatever. With regards to the Nexus 6, current rumors are that there is one version for all major US carriers supporting all bands used. In this case, there are a few possibilities:

1. Verizon will have the IMEI in the database. As such, swapping sims from another active Verizon line will work for LTE and CDMA.

2. Verizon does not have the IMEI in the database. In this situation, it is possible that you would only get Band 13 LTE. Personally I do not think that Google would agree to this.

3. Verizon Band 13 is blocked by Google, Verizon blocks IMEI. In this situation,you might not be able to activate the phone on Verizon at all. Now this situation is highly unlikely given that Google championed for Band 13 to have open access through the FCC.

 

[robber]

Re: Will the Verizon version of Nexu 6 be an orphan when it comes to software updates?

The nexus 5 was the first phone sprint ever offered where it was simply a Sim that went into the device and they had zero control or bloat on it. Software updates come straight from Google just like an unlocked GSM unit would. It was a gigantic paradigm shift.

I would be shocked if vz was not going to be doing things the same way.