Google Nexus 6 on Verizon

Re: Nexus 6 Verizon Release Date Rumors

Let's all remember that "evil" Verizon is killing it w/ the Moto X updates so it is possible all the bad is now gone and at the same time, it's possible it's not. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

So I think by looking at the 6 specs that there may be just one phone and it should work on any carrier.

Don't know when Verizon will permit it on the network, or if they will allow "bring your own", but the US model has all the necessary bands and support for all US carriers including Verizon.

This would truly be a first if there was a phone that permitted you to switch between any of the carriers.

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Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

I hope it will be possible to buy the Play Store version and use it on Verizon.
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Try re-reading what I wrote. I did not say it can not be purchased from ANY carrier stores/websites. I said if you have to buy it from Verizon and not the Play store. You are correct two versions of the Nexus operating on two different networks would still be Nexus'....Verizon had their own model of the GNex with Verizon apps on board,and a steeper purchase price. Verizon also controlled when the updates were released for their version of the GNex.

What Google wanted the VZW version of the GNex to be and what it really became is probably not how Google expected it to go.

I want to happily say it appears that I was wrong. Yeah for those on VZW!!!!! I have read there are going to be 2 versions of the N6 I US version and a world version...lets hope there are no other differences.
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Your comments are right on the money, unfortunately it's a reality that many just cannot wrap their heads around.
I never begrudge companies for being successful.
The term "entitlement" gets thrown around a lot lately; why do people think that they are owed or deserve something?
Corporations have one goal; get as much money from us as they possibly can.
The good news, one does not have to give them their money.


Why are they evil? Seriously they have a duty to their shareholders to return the best possible profits each quarter, they pay a quarterly dividend which is one of the best ones you can ge (7% IIRC). You calling them evil doesn't make them evil.


All carriers certify devices and software to ensure their call centers aren't flooded with people complaining about a problem with the phone/software/network. It is in their best interest to ensure that all devices are fully operational. Does VZW take longer than other carriers? Without a doubt! Is that inherently evil? No. Have they disabled features, YES! I bitched and moaned years ago that my Razr wouldn't due bluetooth file transfer when all the other carriers would. I was supposed to download ringtones using their paid service, but no other carrier did this. Did that make them evil? No. It made them more profitable. While I figured out how to do it most people wouldn't. They would just pay for the downloads. Remember their entire goal is to make money. Yes their bloat sucks and their Verizon specific apps suck beyond measure, but you put up with that for the great network coverage or you go to another network. Does any of that make them evil? No.


Software updates occur yearly or sooner, so at least 2 softwares before most people upgrade their device. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is going to go drop $600 on a new device just to get Android 4.4.x a month sooner when their current device works just fine. If the product is EOL and the person has an upgrade or they are a tech enthusiast who has device ADD then maybe they are will upgrade by a new contract or EDGE, but most people get a new phone/contract when theirs physically breaks, runs out of storage, or slows to the point of no return.


But the FCC setup wireless in the US MUCH differently than Europe and Asian countries. Verizon & Sprint switched to CDMA in an attempt to up voice quality over GSM. When WCDMA (a newer GSM standard) came out Verizon and Sprint could have spent the millions to change over the GSM but their network was operational and most people were happy so they didn't. There is of course more competition when you can switch as easy as popping in a new SIM card BUT then again in the non US markets there are much lower costs to operate a network because all the tower space is rented from the Government (using Great Britain as an example here).


So your real beef is with the FCC and Administrations who appointed these self serving jokers? Seems like you have a lot of misplaced anger.

It seems like your definition of EVIL is a corporation making money. That is WHY these companies exist! Nobody sets up a billion dollar infrastructure to be a nice guy. Hell Google created Android to get more search/advertising dollars. It doesn't exist for the greater good, it is about MONEY!

What is EVIL is a person who orders chemotherapy for people that doesn't need it for money. A person who abducts an individual and tortures them for decades. A company who makes money and has policies designed to make more money doesn't make them EVIL, it makes them profitable.
 
Re: Google Nexus 6 Unlocked vs Carriers

I wonder will it be free of carrier bloatware too.. I really didn't hear anything about you Sprint version of the N5 but it's kinda killing my vibe about the N6 is the off contract price and size.. I don't want to be locked in a contract for the phone

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Re: Google Nexus 6 Unlocked vs Carriers

For TMO, it will be unlocked and bloat free. This is from Des at TMO.

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Re: Special carrier versions?

Does anyone know/have a link to the exact channels/radio frequencies that will be on each version?

Look at the release. Two models. One American one international. American model has Verizon radios sprint radios att and t-mobile in one device.
 
Re: Special carrier versions?

The Nexus 5 works on Sprint as well as GSM carriers. It doesn't work on Verizon, but I don't know whether it's a hardware issue or a Verizon-not-allowing-it issue.

Verizon whitelists their devices, so if the Nexus 6 works on Verizon, the IMEI will need to be whitelisted. I'm hoping that there's no dedicated Verizon version of the Nexus 6. Or will Verizon only whitelist the devices they sell? I haven't heard yet how that's going to work.

I believe it would be a first for one device to work on any US carrier if it indeed turns out that way. It would also take care of the update problem. Apple pushes updates for all carrier devices simultaneously, but there are still carrier locked devices.
 
Re: Special carrier versions?

The updates will come from Google and not AT&T. No carrier specific model. Just America's model and global model. No carrier can block updates.

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This is pure speculation at this point.

Not exactly:

For cellular connectivity, the Nexus 6 has two models: one intended for North America (Model XT1103), and one for the rest of the world (Model XT1100).

Nexus 6: The best Android smartphone for wireless and LTE connectivity | ExtremeTech
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

What really sucks is, those of us Verizon customers that want to get a Nexus 6 as soon as possible will be taking a pretty big gamble by preordering when it goes up on the 29th. If we get it, then it doesn't work on Verizon, we're screwed (well, I mean, I guess we could get a refund, but still). But if we refrain from preordering, chances are, the Nexus 6 will become backordered very quickly, and we'll have to wait even longer to get one. Hm.
 
Re: Special carrier versions?

Does anyone know/have a link to the exact channels/radio frequencies that will be on each version?

Yes, click on the link in my post above to Extremetech. It lists specific radio frequencies and what features/bands it will support with each carrier. It's all very positive news for the Nexus 6:

Cellular network support in the US

The support of all three commercially used US 700MHz bands (bands 12, 13, and 17) makes the Nexus 6 the very first device to be fully interoperable on the 700MHz band, completely eliminating the interoperability problem with this phone. It will support T-Mobile’s ever-expanding 700MHz LTE network, along with U.S. Cellular’s, AT&T’s, and Verizon’s 700MHz LTE networks. It also fully supports T-Mobile’s PCS/AWS Wideband LTE and Verizon’s AWS LTE (branded “XLTE”) networks. Critically, it is also the first phone for Verizon that supports carrier aggregation of its 700MHz and AWS LTE networks for faster performance than any other phone for the carrier. It also supports carrier aggregation on the AT&T network, as well as on Bell, Telus, and Rogers in Canada. Though it lacks carrier aggregation for any of Sprint’s LTE bands, it is a tri-band phone that is capable of accessing Sprint’s 2.5GHz LTE TDD network (branded “Spark”).



The Nexus 5 works on Sprint as well as GSM carriers. It doesn't work on Verizon, but I don't know whether it's a hardware issue or a Verizon-not-allowing-it issue.

It was a hardware issue. It didn't have the CDMA band for voice/data to be compatible with Verizon. I can't remember for sure, but I believe it had a compatible LTE band, but if the LTE signal dropped, it would have nothing to revert to because it lacked CDMA. That also meant you couldn't place voice calls on their CDMA towers, which is how Verizon handled voice calls before VoLTE. So it would have been somewhat compatible for data in some markets, but not with voice.

Also, as my link and post above indicates, there is no special carrier version for the Nexus 6 on Verizon. If they whitelist the device, they will have to whitelist the unlocked version that is being sold on Google Play (like they eventually did with the Nexus 7 2013), which means anybody buying it from somewhere other than Verizon will be able to activate it with Verizon.

Full disclosure: I am currently the owner of a Nexus 5 on T Mobile, and a Samsung Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. Considering purchasing a Nexus 6 to activate on either T Mobile or Verizon.
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

What really sucks is, those of us Verizon customers that want to get a Nexus 6 as soon as possible will be taking a pretty big gamble by preordering when it goes up on the 29th. If we get it, then it doesn't work on Verizon, we're screwed (well, I mean, I guess we could get a refund, but still). But if we refrain from preordering, chances are, the Nexus 6 will become backordered very quickly, and we'll have to wait even longer to get one. Hm.
Actually, you can play it so that Verizon loses if they choose not to activate a BYOD Nexus 6... Switch to AT&T. I switched earlier this year and I don't miss Verizon at all.
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Yeah, but I'm still on contract for almost another year. I imagine I'd have to pay a pretty large early termination fee, and considering I'll be dropping $700+ on the phone itself, that's not another fee I'm interested in taking on. Not to mention, I don't know whether or not ATT's service is very good where I live. Everyone I've talked to about different carriers around here says Verizon's service is the best, so...
 
Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Yeah, but I'm still on contract for almost another year. I imagine I'd have to pay a pretty large early termination fee, and considering I'll be dropping $700+ on the phone itself, that's not another fee I'm interested in taking on. Not to mention, I don't know whether or not ATT's service is very good where I live. Everyone I've talked to about different carriers around here says Verizon's service is the best, so...

You find those folks everywhere. Most times they're just parroting.

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