Google Nexus 6 Preorder Info & Reviews

[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Software can't fix hardware issues -

- panel is an older gen AMOLED with very low brightness and poor color calibration
- cpu has no ARM v8 which means no AES support

I have also read a lot of reviews and they all say the same thing - its the best Nexus ever made. No one says its the best phone, and they all mention a bunch of compromises made with the battery life, screen, sensitivity of wakeup/ambient display etc etc.

What I find ironic is people willing to excuse any flaw as long as its a Nexus. It's the same story every year, and this time it was supposed to be a no compromise Nexus, wasn't it?

Frame the Note 4 Panel and the Nexus 6 panel and run the same video side by side.. Then ask 100 random people to tell you which one is better and you'll more than likely get a 50/50 like split on which one looks better... YES the Note 4 has a better panel on paper...

CPU is the top of the line in the android world right now and the exact same CPU in the 2014 US Note 4 correct? the 808 and 810 chips won't be in mass production and in mainstream devices until second quarter 2015...

Every review I read says the battery last a full day on a single charge with regular use.... I sleep at least 5 or 6 hours each night... Charge it up and you are good to go tomorrow.... some people say a single day is awesome and a few people bashed it for only lasting a single day.. where as I would love to have LG Flip phone 5 - 6 day battery life we just don't live in that world with smart phones.... Battery tech has had minimal improvements over the years... It's mostly been done with improved hardware and software to manage the battery better.. That said I wish that while they were out making a monster they went ahead and threw in the 3,900 or 4,000 battery... what is a few more millimeters in thickness and quarter of an ounce of weight while your at it????

Once I have one and I run it through it's paces in my real world every day use I'll hammer it for anything I feel is lacking or less than acceptable.

Name a perfect device with no compromise in it what so ever? No such animal... You have to get what works best for you and live with the good and the bad of that choice.. I don't know the weakness of the Nexus 6 in my real world use... They could and probably will be completely different than yours would be....

 

[galatians51]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Coming from a Note 3, I want to use my JUMP upgrade to get either the N6 or the Note 4. I read all of this crap in these threads about the Note 4 blowing everything else out of the water and get all excited... Until I go test drive it. Every time I test it at Best Buy or the T Mobile store I walk away after two minutes and come away with the same conclusion: it is almost the same UX as what I have already. I am ready for a change, bring on the Nexus 6. Let's face it. If those of us on these forums really really hate a phone we are getting a new one anyway, why not gamble a bit here or there?

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[Crispy]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Why are people already making excuses for the flaws in the phone? Reviews done by professionals are meant to help us make a decision. Saying things like 'lets wait till we get it in our hands' isn't productive, in that case why bother with reviews at all? Or do you only want to read the positives from reviews?

Every single review says the same thing - battery life and camera don't compare to current phones, and this is with this phones running KitKat.

Its the same every single year - Nexus with disappointing hardware, people say lets wait and it will all be fixed in software updates.

People with a Note 3/4 easily manage 2 days battery life, even my G2 gives me 1.5 days minimum. Yet a Nexus 6 with all the supposed optimizations and Volta can't manage 2 days, and the excuse made is that you can charge every night?

The camera is better than a N5, so what? Almost anything is. The shutter speeds are still slow according to most reviews, HDR mode is slow, it doesn't do slo motion video, once again the much vaunted new Camera API (about which I've posted before) hasn't made much difference.

When there were no reviews on the 29th, people said - 'lets wait for the embargo on 12th, Google made them wait so that reviewers can form a pretty good idea after using it for 2 weeks, and we can trust them'. Now that the reviews are complaining about things, the response is 'lets wait till we have it in our hands' ?? I swear, the Nexus excuses will never end.

 

[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Yet another comment about the Note 4. It sounds to me like there's some people who really want to justify their purchase after these reviews came out and they realize it's not as good as they thought it was. This really has nothing to do with the Note 4, yet it keeps getting brought into this. Wonder why.

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Okay you said replace the panel.... What panel would you like to compare it to? The most common comparison has been the Note 4 because it has a 2K Super AMOLED vs a 2K AMOLED in the Nexus 6... The Note 4 is just praised for having one of the best panels out there. So I am just saying if you frame both and did a side by side comparison and asked 100 people to tell you the difference you'd get a close to 50/50 split the majority of the time...

I apologize for bringing up the Note 4 in my argument...

I still stand by the fact no one has one.. You don't have one so you can't go to all these conclusions on why it's a Great, Good or Meh device..

 

[Crispy]

Re: Anybody else disappointed with screen battery life and camera ?

Yep. It is the encryption. They have found the fix for it on XDA as they have done the fix for the Nexus 9 and are saying how much faster it runs. Again, just people who want to find something wrong with it and not waiting to see if there is a reason behind it and a fix for it.

Will the fix be there for a normal user who buys the phone and doesn't root or know about XDA? That's what matters. If the fix is to disable encryption, that doesn't count as Lollipop won't allow that (without root, custom rom etc).

 

[Crispy]

Re: Anybody else disappointed with screen battery life and camera ?

I've heard that the battery and camera are good, ONE reviewer said it wasn't while many others said easily a full day and the best camera on the Nexus line.

Best camera on Nexus line means nothing. The phone should be compared to other phones, not just the previous Nexus models.

 

[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Every single review says the same thing - battery life and camera don't compare to current phones, and this is with this phones running KitKat.

Since you said every single review said the same thing about battery life.....

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Battery life is also surprisingly great. I've had the Nexus 6 for about two weeks, and never once has it died on me before bedtime. I pull it off the charger at 7:30 in the morning, and it cruises on into the night with at least 30 percent battery power around midnight, even days where I've used it heavily. Last weekend, I tried not to charge at all, and after some pretty hefty Saturday use (an hour or two of Twitter and Facebook, an hour or two of reading, 5-6 hours of podcasts in the background, and some other assorted usage in between) and a chargeless night, I had 20 percent left come 10 am the next morning.

 

[Adranalyne]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Why are people already making excuses for the flaws in the phone? Reviews done by professionals are meant to help us make a decision. Saying things like 'lets wait till we get it in our hands' isn't productive, in that case why bother with reviews at all? Or do you only want to read the positives from reviews?

Every single review says the same thing - battery life and camera don't compare to current phones, and this is with this phones running KitKat.

Its the same every single year - Nexus with disappointing hardware, people say lets wait and it will all be fixed in software updates.

People with a Note 3/4 easily manage 2 days battery life, even my G2 gives me 1.5 days minimum. Yet a Nexus 6 with all the supposed optimizations and Volta can't manage 2 days, and the excuse made is that you can charge every night?

The camera is better than a N5, so what? Almost anything is. The shutter speeds are still slow according to most reviews, HDR mode is slow, it doesn't do slo motion video, once again the much vaunted new Camera API (about which I've posted before) hasn't made much difference.

When there were no reviews on the 29th, people said - 'lets wait for the embargo on 12th, Google made them wait so that reviewers can form a pretty good idea after using it for 2 weeks, and we can trust them'. Now that the reviews are complaining about things, the response is 'lets wait till we have it in our hands' ?? I swear, the Nexus excuses will never end.

If you've used a Moto X and a Nexus 5 with Lollipop, increase the size; you've used a Nexus 6. Pretending its some large departure from either of those phones is hilarious. So pretty much all you need to know is how the new screen looks, how the battery performs, how the camera performs, and if there's any performance issues. Reviewers who extensively test have found issues with all those things. If you're going to buy it anyways, that's cool. Just don't pretend they don't exist.

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[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

People with a Note 3/4 easily manage 2 days battery life, even my G2 gives me 1.5 days minimum. Yet a Nexus 6 with all the supposed optimizations and Volta can't manage 2 days, and the excuse made is that you can charge every night?

Does your phone go to work while you are sleeping at night? Is there a particular reason you'd just leave your phone off the charger all night long while you sleep??? To me the perfect time for it to be on the charger is when I am in my charger (bed) so it's ready to go the next day.... My battery can be at 80% when I go to bed and it's going on the charger....

 

[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

If you've used a Moto X and a Nexus 5 with Lollipop, increase the size; you've used a Nexus 6. Pretending its some large departure from either of those phones is hilarious. So pretty much all you need to know is how the new screen looks, how the battery performs, how the camera performs, and if there's any performance issues. Reviewers who extensively test have found issues with all those things. If you're going to buy it anyways, that's cool. Just don't pretend they don't exist.

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But what if I went and played around with the 2013 Moto X and felt it was too small... and then the Moto X 2014 came out and I said the same thing... Man if only it were just like this except the size of the Note 3 instead? I've already said if you are looking for a smaller Nexus 6... Get a 2014 Moto X pure edition....

Exactly what I wanted was a super sized stock Android phone... Could have been a Moto S and not a Nexus 6 as long as it had all the features the Nexus 6 is listed as having and it's pretty much exactly what I was looking for....

 

[Adranalyne]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

But what if I went and played around with the 2013 Moto X and felt it was too small... and then the Moto X 2014 came out and I said the same thing... Man if only it were just like this except the size of the Note 3 instead? I've already said if you are looking for a smaller Nexus 6... Get a 2014 Moto X pure edition....

Exactly what I wanted was a super sized stock Android phone... Could have been a Moto S and not a Nexus 6 as long as it had all the features the Nexus 6 is listed as having and it's pretty much exactly what I was looking for....

There's nothing wrong with buying this phone. It sucks you have to compromise on simple things they should have fixed for the price they're charging, but if those things don't bother you, by all means.

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[SteveISU]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

The struggle here is the reviews pin it as the best nexus yet, if you can get past the size. The software is what people are gaga over. Sure when you compare it to the previous Nexus devices you can use a qualifier like "best". The nexus line was unique in that you could get an off contract phone for $350-450. Once you start hitting $650-700 off contract and go mainstream in all 4 carriers you no longer get the security blanket of pinning it against only Nexus devices. Now you have to go head to head with the big boys (Apple and Samsung). So the old "well it's a Nexus, it's gonna have drawbacks and shortcomings" card really can't be played anymore given the premium price.

 

[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

So things on the Note 4 forum must be pretty boring. This device has not even released yet and you are positive of all the things you are saying and stating? Why don't we wait until we get it in our hands and let the people decide if it is as subpar as you want it to be. Maybe then you can come back and tell us how you told us so.... It is obvious you have or had no intention of getting the N6, so why are you on this board bashing it? Makes not sense to me as I would never go on the Note 4 forum and trash how laggy touchwiz is...because I am not interested in that phone and have no reason to go there...

As Alfred once said... "Some people just want to watch the world burn."

They don't have or never had a Nexus 6... They don't plan to get one and have made every single rational reason as to why they'd never buy one and yet here they are... In a Nexus 6 forum trying to justify why this phone they don't have or have not played with or tested is such a horrible device..... I don't go hanging around iPhone forums bashing iOS users.. Or even other Android handset forums to bash their phone as not right for me but you guys have at it..... when I've never had or even used one....

 

[Mooem]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Everyone has the right to state their opinion of course. However it is a little perplexing how hard some are trying to convince others that their own opinion is the correct or right one.

It's not going to happen. People interested in this phone, like myself, are going to buy and try it out regardless of countering opinions. Those who believe this phone is a lost cause have already made up their minds.

Seems like its getting to a point of wasting keystrokes and beating a dead horse. ;-)

 

[fredwardnelson]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

The Note 4 lags, completely unacceptable. Most reviews say so. That's a deal breaker for me personally. I'm not paying MORE for the Note than the Nexus and still have to deal with lag, change the launcher, adjust settings. That's so 2009.

 

[Crispy]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

Does your phone go to work while you are sleeping at night? Is there a particular reason you'd just leave your phone off the charger all night long while you sleep??? To me the perfect time for it to be on the charger is when I am in my charger (bed) so it's ready to go the next day.... My battery can be at 80% when I go to bed and it's going on the charger....

There are times when I don't have access to a charger - e.g. when I have to use the phone continuously on for hours, during vacation, camping etc. That's not really the point. The whole point of a phablet and big batteries is longer time without charging. I was charging my phone every night 3 years ago too.

Its really hilarious when you think about it - everyone loves to make fun of Note 4, bloated TouchWiz etc. Yet with all its bloat and running KitKat, a Note 3, 4 and many other phones last longer than the latest and greatest Nexus with pure Android. And people find this is ok?

 

[Adranalyne]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

The struggle here is the reviews pin it as the best nexus yet, if you can get past the size. The software is what people are gaga over. Sure when you compare it to the previous Nexus devices you can use a qualifier like "best". The nexus line was unique in that you could get an off contract phone for $350-450. Once you start hitting $650-700 off contract and go mainstream in all 4 carriers you no longer get the security blanket of pinning it against only Nexus devices. Now you have to go head to head with the big boys (Apple and Samsung). So the old "well it's a Nexus, it's gonna have drawbacks and shortcomings" card really can't be played anymore given the premium price.

It is the best Nexus yet, but Nexus doesn't exist in a vacuum now that it's the same price as most other flagships. Speaking for myself, I'm just disappointed in Google. This was a fantastic opportunity to become a consumer device, but they blew it. The company that created Android doesn't even have the best phone on their own platform. Sad.

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[Robbie317]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

There's nothing wrong with buying this phone. It sucks you have to compromise on simple things they should have fixed for the price they're charging, but if those things don't bother you, by all means.

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You are still assuming anyone who gets this is making some kind of compromise.... You've never even tested one out or owned one... So you are just assuming regardless.... You don't know... I don't know.... The reviewers have only had two weeks and several pointed out a new large updated to Lollipop hit yesterday or today so more testing would be needed to see if anything changed considerably... I read a review that said you can't just go into a store and play with one for five minutes and make a decision.. the size has to grow on you over a period of time.... Which is hard because yes you are talking about a $700 decision or signing up for another two years on contract..

Nothing in life comes without compromises... name a phone that is perfect and without a single compromise? Nexus 5 isn't perfect but it's been a great phone for me and still very popular.. I've had an iPhone (actually both my daughters currently rock iPhones) they are great.. not perfect either... I had the Galaxy S3... great phone.. but had it's issues.... HTC One (My wife) nice phone... has it's compromises....

 

[Crispy]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

As Alfred once said... "Some people just want to watch the world burn."

They don't have or never had a Nexus 6... They don't plan to get one and have made every single rational reason as to why they'd never buy one and yet here they are... In a Nexus 6 forum trying to justify why this phone they don't have or have not played with or tested is such a horrible device..... I don't go hanging around iPhone forums bashing iOS users.. Or even other Android handset forums to bash their phone as not right for me but you guys have at it..... when I've never had or even used one....

Criticism of Nexus 6 is also coming from former Nexus owners, like me, who were hoping finally for a Nexus with no compromises and yet once again we have a phone about which the best that can be said is its better than previous Nexus phones, yet costs much much more.

No one is trying to convince others not to buy this. There's no conspiracy theory. And at the same time lets not try to overlook the flaws.

 

[SteveISU]

Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises

It is the best Nexus yet, but Nexus doesn't exist in a vacuum now that it's the same price as most other flagships. Speaking for myself, I'm just disappointed in Google. This was a fantastic opportunity to become a consumer device, but they blew it. The company that created Android doesn't even have the best phone on their own platform. Sad.

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Which is what I eluded to in my post.